There is no way Blizzard  has 9.6 million players paying $15 a month.

I really wish out of curiosities sake they would release the numbers without including the Chinese players who pay pennies for a couple of hours at a time.

And no, I am not hating, I am a current subscriber for about one more month.

Originally posted by dimnikar

We have a winner!

First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)

 

 

 

 

edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

Who said that the population is growing because of that? Many stop playing, maybe new ones will jump in. The increasement isnt linear only because they count the chinese people. How they get those numbers is still a mistery.

Originally posted by dimnikar

We have a winner!

First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)

 

 

 

 

edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

You clearly missed the point.  Nowhere did he say they werent players, he was talking about how Blizzard spins sub numbers.

Thats like McDonalds saying that they have 10 million active customers, when you find out that 7 million are people who bought 1 sandwhich 1 time and havent bought anything since.

It would be like GW2 claiming they have 3 million active players because they've sold 3 million boxes of the game.

Anybody who can't read between the lines is fooling themselves.

Unfortunately we'll never be able to prove anything without the data, but i would be willing to bet money that as far as north america and europe goes, and real honest to god ACTIVE subscribers, people who log in and play the game several times a week and maintain a sub (also not including multiple accounts per actual player), that its more like in the 1 to 1.5 million range.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by dimnikar

We have a winner!

First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)

 

 

 

 

edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

You clearly missed the point.  Nowhere did he say they werent players, he was talking about how Blizzard spins sub numbers.

Thats like McDonalds saying that they have 10 million active customers, when you find out that 7 million are people who bought 1 sandwhich 1 time and havent bought anything since.

It would be like GW2 claiming they have 3 million active players because they've sold 3 million boxes of the game.

Anybody who can't read between the lines is fooling themselves.

 

Unfortunately we'll never be able to prove anything without the data, but i would be willing to bet money that as far as north america and europe goes, and real honest to god ACTIVE subscribers, people who log in and play the game several times a week and maintain a sub (also not including multiple accounts per actual player), that its more like in the 1 to 1.5 million range.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Blizzard counts any player that's paid money to play in the past 30 days. It's written clear as day in their disclaimer *every time* they post sub numbers.

Yet after all these years, so many of you still come up with these insane theories, claiming it's all a big "mystery" just because you fail to understand any of it.

I guess THUNDER and LIGHTNING must be really confusing for you.

edit: I'm out, just wanted to get a taste of the first batch of crazy on here. Have a nice weekend!

Originally posted by Psychow
Nice to see the 96% retention rate! A rate other MMOs can only dream about!

Originally posted by Dwarfman420

I like Godzilla, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Tekken, Streetfighter etc etc.. oh & I love asian food.

 

Just keep  the pandas n Asian dynasty fantasy out of my "High Fantasy" aka tolkien, wheel of time, etc etc

 

Do you pour lime juice on steak? no! you put ketchup or A-1 on that shiz.

Ketchup? What the hell is the matter with you???

Originally posted by Ghern

There is no way Blizzard  has 9.6 million players paying $15 a month.

I really wish out of curiosities sake they would release the numbers without including the Chinese players who pay pennies for a couple of hours at a time.

And no, I am not hating, I am a current subscriber for about one more month.

I think those numbers are just for the public- i doubt blizzard shares theyr real numbers, because there were so much hype behind it. It wouldnt be smart to release the real numbers- instead they say what the fans want to hear- the game is still going strong- wich is not possible after 7 years. Many who jumped in back then are now mature or have family. I doubt those people stayed loyal to this game for 7 years because EVERYEAR WE HAVE AROUND 10 Mil. WICH MEANS EVERYONE OF THEM WOULD BE STILL PLAYING- FROM DAY ONE TILL NOW-Now tahts logic.

Blizzard counts the guy or girl who walks in to an Internet cafe, spends two hours and a total of 6 cents as a subscriber.

Disengenious at best.

Having 9.6m subs 8 years after release is impressive.

(Especially if you consider how many Wow killers have been there :) )

Originally posted by exile01
it doesnt matter what we write here, people just dont get it.  But this is how the world is- some are sheeps others are wolfs. And blizz can do with theyr sheeps whatever they want and tell them whatever they want. Example above me.

Can you provide me with a link which supports the claim that WoW does not have 9.6m subs?

Originally posted by coretex666

Originally posted by exile01
it doesnt matter what we write here, people just dont get it.  But this is how the world is- some are sheeps others are wolfs. And blizz can do with theyr sheeps whatever they want and tell them whatever they want. Example above me.

Can you provide me with a link which supports the claim that WoW does not have 9.6m subs?

lol, how about a link that says they do?

WoW is dead.  But it's dottering liche-corpse is still pulling in the big bucks, so they're fine with it.

Of course, their ghostly PR-spouting voices are going to make the numbers sound inflated.  I never take corporate PR at face value.  

And as with many other things, you stay big because you already were big. 

Originally posted by dimnikar

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by dimnikar

We have a winner!

First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)

 

 

 

 

edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

You clearly missed the point.  Nowhere did he say they werent players, he was talking about how Blizzard spins sub numbers.

Thats like McDonalds saying that they have 10 million active customers, when you find out that 7 million are people who bought 1 sandwhich 1 time and havent bought anything since.

It would be like GW2 claiming they have 3 million active players because they've sold 3 million boxes of the game.

Anybody who can't read between the lines is fooling themselves.

 

Unfortunately we'll never be able to prove anything without the data, but i would be willing to bet money that as far as north america and europe goes, and real honest to god ACTIVE subscribers, people who log in and play the game several times a week and maintain a sub (also not including multiple accounts per actual player), that its more like in the 1 to 1.5 million range.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Blizzard counts any player that's paid money to play in the past 30 days. It's written clear as day in their disclaimer *every time* they post sub numbers.

 

Yet after all these years, so many of you still come up with these insane theories, claiming it's all a big "mystery" just because you fail to understand any of it.

 

I guess THUNDER and LIGHTNING must be really confusing for you.

 

edit: I'm out, just wanted to get a taste of the first batch of crazy on here. Have a nice weekend!

Not my fault you're incapable of using your brain.  Explain this bat man, if they have 9.6 million active subscribers, why then did they only sell 4.3 million copies of cataclysm, and barely over 3 million copies of pandaria?

Every other MMO in history thats made an expansion to their game sold said expansion to better than 90% of their active subscribers at the time.  Yet, WOW only manages 30-40% of their supposed active subs?

So, you insult my intelligence, yet you're the one who blindly accepts something thats told to you without question?  Yeah, im the one who is confused...

I think problem is bad world economic and less income for people rather then WoW fail.
Number of sub and guys who like MoP are two different things, IMO. You can play WoW w/o MoP too.

For current economical situation + age of this game, it's doing very good. Sill love it even if I don't play it now.

Hope it will never die and next x-pack will bring us more then just one more animal to play with.

You know that cha-ching sound people talk about?The sound of the old school cash register.Well it seem's WoW sound's more like that sound you hear on a quiet day while standing next to a roaring river,you know the sound.It's like an endless sound of cash.

Even though my sub ended last month I gotta give prop's to Blizz.8 year's later and the numerous ftp/btp choice's nowaday's and they just keep on rollin!

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Originally posted by Hrimnir

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Originally posted by dimnikar

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Originally posted by Hrimnir

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Originally posted by dimnikar We have a winner! First post about how Chinese players aren't real people above my post, somewhere :)         edit: Nevermind how these "fake" players that only play for 1 hour then quit, continue to do this month after month, year on year.... :D :D :D

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You clearly missed the point.  Nowhere did he say they werent players, he was talking about how Blizzard spins sub numbers. Thats like McDonalds saying that they have 10 million active customers, when you find out that 7 million are people who bought 1 sandwhich 1 time and havent bought anything since. It would be like GW2 claiming they have 3 million active players because they've sold 3 million boxes of the game. Anybody who can't read between the lines is fooling themselves.   Unfortunately we'll never be able to prove anything without the data, but i would be willing to bet money that as far as north america and europe goes, and real honest to god ACTIVE subscribers, people who log in and play the game several times a week and maintain a sub (also not including multiple accounts per actual player), that its more like in the 1 to 1.5 million range.

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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.   Blizzard counts any player that's paid money to play in the past 30 days. It's written clear as day in their disclaimer *every time* they post sub numbers.   Yet after all these years, so many of you still come up with these insane theories, claiming it's all a big "mystery" just because you fail to understand any of it.   I guess THUNDER and LIGHTNING must be really confusing for you.   edit: I'm out, just wanted to get a taste of the first batch of crazy on here. Have a nice weekend!

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Not my fault you're incapable of using your brain.  Explain this bat man, if they have 9.6 million active subscribers, why then did they only sell 4.3 million copies of cataclysm, and barely over 3 million copies of pandaria? Every other MMO in history thats made an expansion to their game sold said expansion to better than 90% of their active subscribers at the time.  Yet, WOW only manages 30-40% of their supposed active subs? So, you insult my intelligence, yet you're the one who blindly accepts something thats told to you without question?  Yeah, im the one who is confused...

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Not sure about MoP figures, but cata sold over 4.7million in the first month and thats without china (which is about half of wows player base) who didn't get the expansion until July the following year