Originally posted by Theocritus

Originally posted by cybertrucker
Both AION and TERA are good games.

 I don't see why people think Aion is good....I thought it was an awful game.

Because people have their own tastes maybe?

I don't like the artstyle.  The big eyes, huge heads, small bodies, and with most of them the soft porn. as most of them have a species that looks like a small child being all sexed up.  

Now I get that is the way they roll over there, but it really turns me off. 

I not found one asian mmo that I like mostly due to the artwork involved, not the game or questing system.  

This is why I hate them. You know, you'd think with asian's being so far ahead of everyone in math and physics that they would be a "little" more down to earth in the understanding of gravity/weight/mass etc.

Well this and gender in asian games being often difficult to tell apart. Sometimes impossible. I have a theory it's why so many asian games are genderlocked, afterall, who can really tell anyway?

Now it's udnerstandable when you see asian culture why they do this, It's not just a game thing over there.

If it wasn't for the tie... I'm genuinely not sure I'd be able to tell with this one.

I will however say that asthetics/art/gender aside, the game can be quite good, and quite different from the copy/paste stuff made here in the west. But it's impossible for me at least to get over these issues.

Kazuhiro FTW. Great post LOL. Ya and i never liked those sattelite-dish-sized elf-ears, either.

I'm asian and can read chinese, but I will never "play on asian server".

I mean there are many bots in western server, and asian server takes it to a whole new level. 

The updates and insecurity is why we never tend to play Asian MMO. You don't know if you will get updates or when you will get updates and they tend to pull the plug on their westerns servers rather quickly. EQ is still up and running, Lineage and Lineage II I believe have both been shut down in the West. I didn't have a good experience with FFXI either to be honest.

You also don't have direct contact with developers, in most Western MMO there is back and forth contact between developers and players, don't get me started on Korean MMO.

The first mmo I played any length of time in was Lineage 2. It was a good game in spite of my hatred of pvp. The problem was with bots mainly. Bots were everywhere. Hacks were prevelant too - my sons took advantage of them. Worse of all was the grind. Constant grind. I played 3 months on L2 and only got to level 40.  I tried a couple of other Asian mmos and quickly dropped them mostly due to bots, hacks, grind and extreme focus on pvp. Later I tried Aion. Bots and grind again.

No Asian mmo's are not for this care bear. Yet I have to admit I am interested in Tera. Oh well, there is no fool like an old fool and being a real geezer I am leading the charge.

I was they same exact way OP. I was immune to GW2 hype because of it the same reason.

I picked up AoW while being burnt out of PS2 and waiting / disappointed with the delay for DF:UW. After 2 weeks of the first of CB one I stopped knowing there ws going to be a wipe. 1 week later I found myself jones'n to get back in. After the first week of CB2, I had to rethink how I felt about asian VS western games.

AoW  turned my 9 years of PC gaming logic upside down. The only reasoning I could figure why AoW is so different form any asian (or western) game I've played, was that it was a Chinese game not Korean. 

If AA is good, the repopulation will be the laststand for Western gaming in my book. 

I liked TERA and Aion when I played them, also looking forward to Archeage. Bein an Asian MMO does not bother me in the least.

I actully like the grinddy game. To me it makes them last longer. GW2 is a good example. I made level 80, got exotics, now I dont even play the game.

Looking forward to se what Trion does to AA when it releases here in the states.

I found FFXIV (after Yoshida took over) to have great developer contact with the English speaking community.  But unlike many Korean games the FF online games are not seperate versions of the game for the Japanese and the world communities.

I can understand the art complaints if you don't like an art style like I don't particularly like the art style of guild wars, world of warcraft, aion, or Lord of the Rings Online it is hard to get over that.

But the complaints of grinding, lack of content, etc. as being a norm in asian developed MMO's I think is taking liberties with stereotyping.  How anyone can look at a game like FFXI and say it lacks content just has no credibility in speaking on the subject of MMO's.

I'm comfortable with most aspects of Asian MMOs.  I haven't played tons, but other than click to move and gender locked classes in some games, most I've played are to my liking.

I'd much rather play a slow leveling grindy game than one with forced cut-scene storyline and quest lines that I can't escape.

Originally posted by Murugan

I found FFXIV (after Yoshida took over) to have great developer contact with the English speaking community.  But unlike many Korean games the FF online games are not seperate versions of the game for the Japanese and the world communities.

 

I can understand the art complaints if you don't like an art style like I don't particularly like the art style of guild wars, world of warcraft, aion, or Lord of the Rings Online it is hard to get over that.

 

But the complaints of grinding, lack of content, etc. as being a norm in asian developed MMO's I think is taking liberties with stereotyping.  How anyone can look at a game like FFXI and say it lacks content just has no credibility in speaking on the subject of MMO's.

Arent the FF games made in Japan?

Originally posted by Kenaoshi

well i am on the other side of the balance.

I like the Asian mmos and starting to despise the way NA/EU of doing them.

While i agree that asian mmos DOES have the problems you mentioned and the art-style can, sometimes, be a little over the top, the gameplay and dificulty does fit my needs more than the eazy going/boring western counter parts.

Originally posted by Kazuhiro

This is why I hate them. You know, you'd think with asian's being so far ahead of everyone in math and physics that they would be a "little" more down to earth in the understanding of gravity/weight/mass etc.

Maybe that's one of the reasons they don't do too well here - we've got one view of How Things Should Be in an MMO and anything that violates that is summarily rejected.

Originally posted by Burntvet
Many people in Asia like to eat/have steamed buns and rice gruel for breakfast. In the West, people like pancakes, eggs and toast. I don't care how "good" the rice gruel is, I don't like rice gruel. Even "good" rice gruel is bad to me for breakfast. I don't care how many people like rice gruel or tell me to like rice gruel. I don't like rice gruel. In the same way, tastes differ for MMOs. I don't care how flashy a new Korean/Chinese MMO is, because by and large, they are very similar in gameplay, mechanics, and grind to the ones that came before. And seeing the 100th version of basically the same Asian MMO is not going to change that. (I just tried Age of Wushu for a couple weeks, and it had most of the same failings of other games of the same ilk.)

my exact sentiments

I played Lineage 2.

I liked:

- manga style character design of some race and class combinations (others looked awful, though)

- very complex class system; each race gets their own variant of classes

- complex crafting (however, only dwarves could craft, that sucked)

- overenchanting (make stuff better with the chance of breaking them, much better mechanisms than soulbound etc)

- castle sieges (mass pvp events that decided about ressources)

Today however L2 is basically an Aion clone. Only 8 classes left instead of the original variance. Meh.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Maybe that's one of the reasons they don't do too well here - we've got one view of How Things Should Be in an MMO and anything that violates that is summarily rejected.

Yes? When's the last time you saw a new title, any title, "did well here"? Quick review of the last 15 years this site's been open?

Not just azn games, not by a long shot.