Well I think it's safe to say it didn't kill WOW like some claimed it would. I personally played for a month or so and got an ele to lvl 80..I did all the dungeons once or twice and started pvping..I did that for a couple weeks before I realized it was really boring and not fun. I haven't played since and that was couple months ago...

I went back to WOW after a really long break..like since wrath release and I was actually pleased with what I found. I think Pandaland alone is better then GW2 in it's entirety....I realize thats probably not a popular opinion but it's mine.

That being said, what could bring me back to the world of Tyria? Honestly nothing short of a blumpkin from the devs...

Meh, wait to enter Eorzea.

Tyria died when they hired the maple story chick that ruins games and since her, their manifesto went down the toilet.

They made promises they couldnt keep. Unless they admit it, fire their whole team like Square-Enix did and hire people that care, Tyria will not be reborn.

GW2 is still the best MMO on the market... and will remain that way until possibly ESO. 

After playing for more than 5 months,i can still say GW2 is by far the best MMO i´ve ever played!

And it ´s just born....wait a couple of expansions ^^

Originally posted by Celcius
No one claims that games will "kill WoW"; these are just things people like to say when backing up an ill formed argument about a game not meeting their expectations. I personally think WoW is complete garbage and so is MoP, but hey thats my opinion. Fact is that the game is earning ArenaNet and NC Soft hand over fist and they have sold over 3million copies already, making it the fastest selling MMO to date. Take that for what you will, but I don't really see how anyone with any sense can deny the success of GW2. 

I didn't really mention how well it did do or didn't. I know MOP sold more then 3 million copies in a week though. I think that is probably faster then GW2. Im not knocking people who like the game at all...im not saying it's unsuccessful...it's succesfull for a mediocre game for sure..a real record setter!

Originally posted by neobahamut20

Meh, wait to enter Eorzea.

Tyria died when they hired the maple story chick that ruins games and since her, their manifesto went down the toilet.

They made promises they couldnt keep. Unless they admit it, fire their whole team like Square-Enix did and hire people that care, Tyria will not be reborn.

One person does not ruin a company - a whole company does that.

Originally posted by Zzad

After playing for more than 5 months,i can still say GW2 is by far the best MMO i´ve ever played!

And it just born....wait a couple of expansions ^^

 

When you make a post like that you are obliged to post your MMO resume so you can show that its not the first MMO you play for more than 3 months.

Originally posted by Zzad

After playing for more than 5 months,i can still say GW2 is by far the best MMO i´ve ever played!

And it just born....wait a couple of expansions ^^

 

Other then blumpkins from the dev team...expansions are also something I will keep my eye on...Im not against the game..just feel it was mediocre and lacking content....lack of devs giving fucks about pvp and such.

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by neobahamut20

Meh, wait to enter Eorzea.

Tyria died when they hired the maple story chick that ruins games and since her, their manifesto went down the toilet.

They made promises they couldnt keep. Unless they admit it, fire their whole team like Square-Enix did and hire people that care, Tyria will not be reborn.

One person does not ruin a company - a whole company does that.

You've never worked in a company with more than 10 employees, have you?

Originally posted by neobahamut20

Originally posted by Zzad

After playing for more than 5 months,i can still say GW2 is by far the best MMO i´ve ever played!

And it just born....wait a couple of expansions ^^

 

When you make a post like that you are obliged to post your MMO resume so you can show that its not the first MMO you play for more than 3 months.

He likes the game - nuff said - if he didn't like it nuff said. People posting their MMO creds is just utter nonsense because it could be all lies anyway. After all, this is the internet where fake stories are the King.

Been playing GW2 since headstart and have been loving it. Best game on the market for the non gear treadmill (raiding) crowd. Its all about the look, not the stats. Its very easy to get the best gear, but how cool do you want to look? I personally think for the WoW type games, Rift takes the cake. With the new expac, its really an epic game.

WoW is a good game, but when a person has been playing it long enough it loses its luster. You're probably not there yet. But it will happen at some point.

Originally posted by iamthekiller

Originally posted by Celcius
No one claims that games will "kill WoW"; these are just things people like to say when backing up an ill formed argument about a game not meeting their expectations. I personally think WoW is complete garbage and so is MoP, but hey thats my opinion. Fact is that the game is earning ArenaNet and NC Soft hand over fist and they have sold over 3million copies already, making it the fastest selling MMO to date. Take that for what you will, but I don't really see how anyone with any sense can deny the success of GW2. 

I didn't really mention how well it did do or didn't. I know MOP sold more then 3 million copies in a week though. I think that is probably faster then GW2. Im not knocking people who like the game at all...im not saying it's unsuccessful...it's succesfull for a mediocre game for sure..a real record setter!

An expansion is different then a game release. Saying your MMO sold 3 million copies in a week which was the first time the game did not break a previous record for sales and with an installed user base of 10 million doesn't mean anything. It was not the fastest selling MMO of all time, GW2 was and still is. Nice try though, considering you started your post off by claiming you did not mention how well it did yet still replied to me by claiming GW2's numbers were not as significant as I claim. 

You can't state your opinion as fact and claim I cannot defend your argument with facts. You like WoW and you don't like GW2..who cares. The fact is that GW2 has sold faster then any other MMO does not change. You can claim it is mediocre all you want though. That is your opinion. Unfortunately for you they already got your money so you basically voted for the game being a winner. Thanks for your contribution towards my current and future content patches for the game I enjoy. 

This is from the Holidays. Been playing since before the launch and not only am I still going strong in there but the game is going strong as well. Three million sales for this fledgling game, they're adding staff, still growing, still making it better. 

For me, personally, hype exceeded. Your mileage may vary.

Originally posted by iamthekiller

Originally posted by Celcius
No one claims that games will "kill WoW"; these are just things people like to say when backing up an ill formed argument about a game not meeting their expectations. I personally think WoW is complete garbage and so is MoP, but hey thats my opinion. Fact is that the game is earning ArenaNet and NC Soft hand over fist and they have sold over 3million copies already, making it the fastest selling MMO to date. Take that for what you will, but I don't really see how anyone with any sense can deny the success of GW2. 

I didn't really mention how well it did do or didn't. I know MOP sold more then 3 million copies in a week though. I think that is probably faster then GW2. Im not knocking people who like the game at all...im not saying it's unsuccessful...it's succesfull for a mediocre game for sure..a real record setter!

Ok so to play devils advocate here, MOP only selling 3 millions copies in a week conciddering WoW's "subs" triples that by peoples estimates then I think that in and of itself is a sign. You have already praised  WoW and in the same sentence took a dig at GW in your first post, then called GW2 a mediocre game in this post so I am not sure of your intentions but I am guessing it isn't for a discussion nor are you really wanting your origional question answered.

I am still playing and enjoying GW2 and I had played WoW untill shortly after CATA. I feel the hype was warranted and the game is good, I just think it isn't as flushed out and deep as I was looking for. I detested the direction WoW was going and only stuck around as long as I did because friends played. If you wanted an honest discussion you probably should have stayed away from attacking and comparing one game to another. 

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by iamthekiller

Originally posted by Celcius
No one claims that games will "kill WoW"; these are just things people like to say when backing up an ill formed argument about a game not meeting their expectations. I personally think WoW is complete garbage and so is MoP, but hey thats my opinion. Fact is that the game is earning ArenaNet and NC Soft hand over fist and they have sold over 3million copies already, making it the fastest selling MMO to date. Take that for what you will, but I don't really see how anyone with any sense can deny the success of GW2. 

I didn't really mention how well it did do or didn't. I know MOP sold more then 3 million copies in a week though. I think that is probably faster then GW2. Im not knocking people who like the game at all...im not saying it's unsuccessful...it's succesfull for a mediocre game for sure..a real record setter!

An expansion is different then a game release. Saying your MMO sold 3 million copies in a week which was the first time the game did not break a previous record for sales and with an installed user base of 10 million doesn't mean anything. It was not the fastest selling MMO of all time, GW2 was and still is. Nice try though, considering you started your post off by claiming you did not mention how well it did yet still replied to me by claiming GW2's numbers were not as significant as I claim. 

You can't state your opinion as fact and claim I cannot defend your argument with facts. You like WoW and you don't like GW2..who cares. The fact is that GW2 has sold faster then any other MMO does not change. You can claim it is mediocre all you want though. That is your opinion. Unfortunately for you they already got your money so you basically voted for the game being a winner. Thanks for your contribution towards my current and future content patches for the game I enjoy. 

I never once stated my opinion as fact. I actually went out of my way to specifically say it was my opinion and it wasn't popular. Your attitude is quite amusing though, you come in here attacking me because you want to make sure everyone knows GW2 wasn't a failure...but I never said it was..you seem like you know deep down it's mediore but don't want to admit it to yourself.

As far as MOP being different because it's an expansion...that's pretty much something you made up to rationalize your viewpoint that GW2 is the fastest selling MMO of all time when it's not. MOP is...you don't get to discount it for subjective reasons. Or can you point me in the direction of the rulebook that defines these things? Did obama sign a executive action declaring expansions for mmo's don't count as mmo release's?

All that aside, if you don't care about the topic of my thread why post? Why not just go on with your life? GW2 isn't gonna magically become a good game because your white knighting it.

I'm not saying its a bad game though, just that they just didnt deliver on their promises.

I quit playing when I got bored of doing the same things over and over and over again. It was missing both Fun and Challenge, which IMO, are key ingredients to an MMO. I had more fun in jumping puzzles (halloween was by far the best) than the actual game.

WvW is always the same, Stalemate or one-sided. I appreciate their attempt at making it work though. It confirms my doubts about a direct 3-faction system done in that fashion. It doesnt help that it includes jumping puzzles, for example, which when combined with player caps makes for unbalanced teams.

Maybe I'm just too good for this game type, but does anyone else die of boredom in dungeons? EG: Easy, really easy bosses, where finding good players is more challenging than the game itself? Its worse than WoW even since there is nothing to get players to group together. I'm still waiting on a game which will tier people with a rating based on successes/failure rate on dungeons (by dungeon), now that would make people care enough to play well... well if they are as good as they claim to be.

Originally posted by iamthekiller

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by iamthekiller

Originally posted by Celcius
No one claims that games will "kill WoW"; these are just things people like to say when backing up an ill formed argument about a game not meeting their expectations. I personally think WoW is complete garbage and so is MoP, but hey thats my opinion. Fact is that the game is earning ArenaNet and NC Soft hand over fist and they have sold over 3million copies already, making it the fastest selling MMO to date. Take that for what you will, but I don't really see how anyone with any sense can deny the success of GW2. 

I didn't really mention how well it did do or didn't. I know MOP sold more then 3 million copies in a week though. I think that is probably faster then GW2. Im not knocking people who like the game at all...im not saying it's unsuccessful...it's succesfull for a mediocre game for sure..a real record setter!

An expansion is different then a game release. Saying your MMO sold 3 million copies in a week which was the first time the game did not break a previous record for sales and with an installed user base of 10 million doesn't mean anything. It was not the fastest selling MMO of all time, GW2 was and still is. Nice try though, considering you started your post off by claiming you did not mention how well it did yet still replied to me by claiming GW2's numbers were not as significant as I claim. 

You can't state your opinion as fact and claim I cannot defend your argument with facts. You like WoW and you don't like GW2..who cares. The fact is that GW2 has sold faster then any other MMO does not change. You can claim it is mediocre all you want though. That is your opinion. Unfortunately for you they already got your money so you basically voted for the game being a winner. Thanks for your contribution towards my current and future content patches for the game I enjoy. 

GW2 isn't gonna magically become a good game because your white knighting it.

 

A lot of people feel GW2 is a good game. Are they wrong? Why is your opinion the correct one?

What makes your negative opinion of the game more valid than a dissenting  positive opinion?

I became bored in GW2 after 2 months and haven't gone back.

I don't rant about how the game is not good, it's just not for me.

Maybe, just maybe there are good games out there that just do not appeal to you.