I'm not a big fan of pvp, but I'm actually glad they aren't going to have any PvE for this game.  I've always thought of almost every MMO should be either a PvP or PvE MMO.  They try to add both, but there's always one that seems to do much better than the other.  I play different MMOs depending on what I want.  For PvE I'll play WoW or Rift, to play PvP I'll go play DAoC.

Edit: DAoC is the only game that I actually loved to PvP.

Hope the EU ppl can pledge on kickstarter aswell, or they do somthing like Chris Roberts did with Star Citizen, otherwise they might miss out a big junk of cash.

I would support it =)

Originally posted by TribeofOne
why name the game after 1 of the 3 factions? is Camelot the "good" or "light" faction? Id consider changing it to something more inclusive, but i guess you're also trying draw some hype by association.

You're mistaken. :)

Actually the 3 factions were Albion, Hibernia, and Midgard. Camelot is just a time frame although camelot was the name of the city in Albion. Camelot was the main word in his original title Dark Age of "Camelot". :)

If they will aim for 30-50k subs, people will claim the game is a "failure". Because you can't make money unless you have 1M+ subs, right?

Originally posted by morbuskabis

Hope the EU ppl can pledge on kickstarter aswell, or they do somthing like Chris Roberts did with Star Citizen, otherwise they might miss out a big junk of cash.

I would support it =)

 

Why wouldn't they? I've pledged just fine on the US kickstarter with Amazon payments.

Originally posted by eric1000
Stopped reading the moment I read that the entire game is based around RvR.  MJ has stated elsewhere that he has learned from the past but I think that he missed a spot, the spot where no MMO solely based on PvP has been even remotely close to successful.  The best he can hope for with this model is minor success as a very niche game.

 

Well then if you read it all you'll notice a niche game is exactly what he's after.

Originally posted by tom_gore

If they will aim for 30-50k subs, people will claim the game is a "failure". Because you can't make money unless you have 1M+ subs, right?

 

Man I would just like to see 100k dedicated players. THe rest can keep whatever clone they are playing

Wait... what? I thought the industry told us that the sub model was unprofitable and unsustainable?

Yet here we have, from a man very much in the know, saying he can run his game for a niche audience on it... makes you wonder why those other guys say they can't eh? Maybe it is down to making a sustanable profit or just profiteering, as some here have always maintained?

I admire a man who puts game design before high marketing numbers and a man who seems to understand how the cash shop model is awful for community building and core game design (I do disagree with him that this isn't important for PvE games as well though, but I feel he is being somewhat diplomatic towards his industry peers in what he says here).

I really like waht this guy is saying..

1. RVR game

2. Sub based game

3. Niche game aimed at people who like RVR and pvp in general

4. Realistic about the amount of subs he is thinking about getting

Everything is ticking the right boxes here.. cant wait for the kickstarter page to come up..

I like how he was saying this morning, he was asking people not to cut down Zenimax/Bethesda he has a ton of people he loves who work there and he is friends with. You sometimes forget guys like mark have been in this buisness a long time. I know many people blame him for ruining games, but he has seemed to gain a great deal of humility and a pretty good sense of humor from some of it.

Really looking forward to this. plenty of games coming as well like TESO/AA and more to keep us busy. should be able to kill a few years out of those, of course unless project Titan turns out to be Starcraft Universe then I have the time to wait.

"CU first differentiator is that the entire game revolves around RvR not RvR+PvE or PvE+RvR or anything like that."  

Next please.

Originally posted by xSyngex

"CU first differentiator is that the entire game revolves around RvR not RvR+PvE or PvE+RvR or anything like that."  

 

Next please.

Like the guy says this game is not going to be for everyone... and thats what is going to make this game awesome for people who like RVR games or PVP..

Originally posted by xSyngex

"CU first differentiator is that the entire game revolves around RvR not RvR+PvE or PvE+RvR or anything like that."  

 

Next please.

niche' game is niche'

I love that he is going to focus on one thing. These developers keep trying to hit this imaginary grand slam, and please everyone, and pleasing very few. All this with these ridiculous budgets, marketing, fanfair,etc. its really gotten out of control (in my opinion) .

I really enjoy RvR, i really enjoy housing, I really like (good/important) crafting, and i really don't mind PvE as a minor part of my MMO experience.  I am his target customer for this game, and i know i am in the minority.

niche' game is niche'

Originally posted by OgreRaper

Originally posted by Fendel84M
No pve? Meh

Nope, this game is not meant for Raiders / PvE'ers.

PvP or GTFO!

oh you pro elite player you! You tell them how it is to be hardcore... go get em girl - I mean MAD SKILLS BAD ASS ELITE PLAYER

A fresh coat of paint on a car that can't get out of first gear won't make it sell any better.

These game developers are really stuck in a rut.

I don't know why everyone assumes you have to go f2p to be successful in this market.  As I said earlier, f2p just screams cheap to me.  When you start a game as f2p it just says you cannot compete.  Is that the kind of game you want?

I like what he says so far.  Let's hope he can produce what he is describing.

Many will see this as  DAOC 2 .. 

The Tens of thousands  that  LEFT  DAoC because of  TOA plus  the  current players  and those who Once  played...   may  find  this  something  they HAVE  to try.