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2/05/13 4:28:58 PM#21
They could've made a bad investment or bought out a company with debts, or perhaps they're just ran by a corrupt board of directors bleeding it dry. WIth the money they're raking in I also find it hard to believe losses are due to operating costs / marketing alone. They should be smart enough to make those calculations right. http://lyrics.iztok.org/verse/Lynyrd_Skynyrd/Simple_Man/80615 |
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2/05/13 4:29:42 PM#22
That is in Korean Won . 1000 over Korean won is 1 US dollar.
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2/05/13 4:33:47 PM#23
Huh? A profit from Linage, thought they took all those servers off line? Did you get it backward?
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2/05/13 4:37:14 PM#24
http://global.ncsoft.com/global/ir/earnings.aspx
Read for yourself. As expected a nice portion of box sales were held over from the 3rd qt. Even with that it looks like they lost quite a bit. Stock went down another 5% today too. DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees. |
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2/05/13 4:39:08 PM#25
Oh boy, a quarterly. You guys know what this means? What Does It All Mean Doom Forecasting™, with Bunny, our happy fluffy weather girl, tonight on Action Seven News. -Nearly every single bad trend in MMO development was started by the developers.--Wordiz |
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2/05/13 4:47:30 PM#26
Originally posted by RefMinor
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2/05/13 4:50:28 PM#27
In the red was only NC Soft korea. If you add it's subsidiaries (like ANet with gW2). they are actually far on +. Here: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2013/02/05/25/0503000000AEN20130205002551320F.HTML "Consolidated net profit reached 101.9 billion won (US$93.7 million) in the October-December period" |
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2/05/13 4:52:55 PM#28
Originally posted by bcbully Stocks a funny thing, it's not a measurment for company performance but a percieved value which can be VERY misleading.
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2/05/13 4:53:02 PM#29
Stock went down they took some loss, yes GW2 is doing terrible! I guess the migration to Pirates101 is inevitable now!
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2/05/13 4:53:04 PM#30
Originally posted by Kuppa My comment had nothing to do with GW2's figures, I was merely commenting on the inaccuracy in the article, as it did not "maintain" losses due to strong sales. "i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon |
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2/05/13 4:55:24 PM#31
Originally posted by RefMinor I removed my comment because I noticed that after the fact.
However, the figures you and MASSIVELY are talking about are the "Parent" figures, which I can only assume are NCSoft itself. When you look at the whole figures at the very beggining you will see that net income be higher qoq and yoy inmensely. |
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2/05/13 4:57:05 PM#32
Originally posted by kitarad Sure but the numbers present are Billion wons. So billions won divided by 1000 is Millions USD. Currently playing: GW2 |
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2/05/13 4:58:22 PM#33
Originally posted by Asamof I was about to say this very same thing. It's kind of scary and/or amazing. |
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2/05/13 4:59:02 PM#34
Originally posted by bcbully $150M would be around 5 million boxes ($30 per box). There is heavy gem money in there too Currently playing: GW2 |
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2/05/13 5:01:55 PM#35
A bigger question is what is NCsoft's cut out of Guild Wars 2? Without this being known, no useful conclusion can be drawn, other than what is plainly presented by the graph. I am curious to see how the region graph changes with the release of Blade and Soul over in North America. From what I hear about KR and Korean culture, Blade and Soul is the best thing since sliced bread.
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2/05/13 5:03:47 PM#36
Originally posted by QSatu Well there we go, a lesson for all of us not to use Gaming Websites to analyse financial results for us. "i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon |
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2/05/13 5:14:19 PM#37
Originally posted by RefMinor They saw the parent company graphs, which is indeed in red. But those don't take in to account GW2.
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2/05/13 5:55:00 PM#38
Originally posted by Asamof
Is L1 still sub? or a F2P conversion? |
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2/05/13 6:05:42 PM#39
Ncsoft is in the red ,arenanet saved ncsoft ass (again)
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2/05/13 6:12:00 PM#40
Originally posted by drbaltazar I don't understand how though, they must be really poor with money management, they have Blade and Soul, Lineage and Aion all in Korea, I don't know about Lineage but I know Aion and Blade and Soul are sub based there and each has hundreds of thousands of players, Lineage also has a tonne of players... what are they doing wrong to end up in the red in Korea? |
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