Originally posted by moosecatlol

Personally, the minute I saw that there was a new tier of gear above exotic, I said to myself "This isn't what I signed up for."

Though what I do find a little interesting is you can have a game like War-Z that promised many things and delivered none of them, and in response get destroyed by the gaming community.

Then there is the double standard of Guild Wars 2 and Arenanet's "Manifesto" in which many of the things that they claimed and many of the goals that they set ended up simply being fallcies used to hype the game up.

Make sure you don't read to much into this, I am in no way saying that Arenanet are as much of scumbags as Hammerpoint Interactive, but they are both guilty of lying to their playerbase, and that will never go away.

If you actually bothered to look at the gear teirs, when you are taling 1-5% difference in your attributes, it doesn't affect your damage output/healing/blocks/etc, it really is no biggie. Also, they did say they were going to put this tier in, in the manifesto, so you must be speed reading or reading with blinders on.

The double standard is on the players end, not the companies end. Ultimately, they need to make money to survive. Fans are a fickle bunch, though.

They always said there was gonna bea tier above exotic. It was nothing new and no surprise to the people who really followed the game.

Now, on the opposite side. If they ever bring in anything above Ascended, then there will be somethign to bitch about and even I won't be happy.

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by moosecatlol

Personally, the minute I saw that there was a new tier of gear above exotic, I said to myself "This isn't what I signed up for."

Though what I do find a little interesting is you can have a game like War-Z that promised many things and delivered none of them, and in response get destroyed by the gaming community.

Then there is the double standard of Guild Wars 2 and Arenanet's "Manifesto" in which many of the things that they claimed and many of the goals that they set ended up simply being fallcies used to hype the game up.

Make sure you don't read to much into this, I am in no way saying that Arenanet are as much of scumbags as Hammerpoint Interactive, but they are both guilty of lying to their playerbase, and that will never go away.

If you actually bothered to look at the gear teirs, when you are taling 1-5% difference in your attributes, it doesn't affect your damage output/healing/blocks/etc, it really is no biggie. Also, they did say they were going to put this tier in, in the manifesto, so you must be speed reading or reading with blinders on.

 

The double standard is on the players end, not the companies end. Ultimately, they need to make money to survive. Fans are a fickle bunch, though.

1-5% makes a pretty big difference to some people.

Speaking of the manifesto, where did they say that DR would be used to prevent the grinding that they did not want anyone to do? Remember, they don't believe in grinding.

And that's the wonderful thing about the manifesto. They can be completely vague and fill in the blanks later on. Great advertising campaign I'll give them that. +1 to their marketing team.

Originally posted by NaughtyP

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by moosecatlol

Personally, the minute I saw that there was a new tier of gear above exotic, I said to myself "This isn't what I signed up for."

Though what I do find a little interesting is you can have a game like War-Z that promised many things and delivered none of them, and in response get destroyed by the gaming community.

Then there is the double standard of Guild Wars 2 and Arenanet's "Manifesto" in which many of the things that they claimed and many of the goals that they set ended up simply being fallcies used to hype the game up.

Make sure you don't read to much into this, I am in no way saying that Arenanet are as much of scumbags as Hammerpoint Interactive, but they are both guilty of lying to their playerbase, and that will never go away.

If you actually bothered to look at the gear teirs, when you are taling 1-5% difference in your attributes, it doesn't affect your damage output/healing/blocks/etc, it really is no biggie. Also, they did say they were going to put this tier in, in the manifesto, so you must be speed reading or reading with blinders on.

 

The double standard is on the players end, not the companies end. Ultimately, they need to make money to survive. Fans are a fickle bunch, though.

1-5% makes a pretty big difference to some people.

Speaking of the manifesto, where did they say that DR would be used to prevent the grinding that they did not want anyone to do? Remember, they don't believe in grinding.

And that's the wonderful thing about the manifesto. They can be completely vague and fill in the blanks later on. Great advertising campaign I'll give them that. +1 to their marketing team.

Let me start to say that I'm against Ascended items.

Exotic items were already on the grindy side (although with changes they became more accessbile) for max gear tier.

Ascended items are grindier than exotics were and were really introduced to cater to a population GW2 will never cater while remaining GW2.

About DR.

For every activity to be equivalent, rewards have to be on par in terms of rewards taking into account difficulty and time required.

If they aren't some activities will be prefered by a majority and then it becomes a question of doing stuff that may or may not be enjoyable vs getting more rewards or gimping yourself.

DR is a system Arenanet uses because it acknowledge it will take time to get the reward/time and reward/difficulty right.

This allows Arenanet to introduce things without the fear certain activities will become so much more attractive. It also protects new players and/or players unable to "farm" those activities while they were available.

It is a bandaid and one can discuss how effective it is, but it makes sense, especially if coupled with reward boosts for less rewarding but fun activities.

Originally posted by NaughtyP

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by moosecatlol

Personally, the minute I saw that there was a new tier of gear above exotic, I said to myself "This isn't what I signed up for."

Though what I do find a little interesting is you can have a game like War-Z that promised many things and delivered none of them, and in response get destroyed by the gaming community.

Then there is the double standard of Guild Wars 2 and Arenanet's "Manifesto" in which many of the things that they claimed and many of the goals that they set ended up simply being fallcies used to hype the game up.

Make sure you don't read to much into this, I am in no way saying that Arenanet are as much of scumbags as Hammerpoint Interactive, but they are both guilty of lying to their playerbase, and that will never go away.

If you actually bothered to look at the gear teirs, when you are taling 1-5% difference in your attributes, it doesn't affect your damage output/healing/blocks/etc, it really is no biggie. Also, they did say they were going to put this tier in, in the manifesto, so you must be speed reading or reading with blinders on.

 

The double standard is on the players end, not the companies end. Ultimately, they need to make money to survive. Fans are a fickle bunch, though.

1-5% makes a pretty big difference to some people.

Speaking of the manifesto, where did they say that DR would be used to prevent the grinding that they did not want anyone to do? Remember, they don't believe in grinding.

And that's the wonderful thing about the manifesto. They can be completely vague and fill in the blanks later on. Great advertising campaign I'll give them that. +1 to their marketing team.

Considering that there are no real DPS checks in this game, and that the difference between exotic and ascended is less than 10 damage per second. Who are these people?

This isn't like WoW or EQ2 tiers, where you will get a few extra thousand DPS from a tier upgrade. You are talking about upgrades of a few stat points, like 1-5. You lose far more stats if you forget to use food.

The primary reason for getting ascended tier is for the fractal progression resists.

If you were decked out in full exotic, and you came across a player in WvW with full exotic and ascended in every possible slot... the match would be decided by skill, not gear. No gear based progression games could claim the same.

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by NaughtyP

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by moosecatlol

Personally, the minute I saw that there was a new tier of gear above exotic, I said to myself "This isn't what I signed up for."

Though what I do find a little interesting is you can have a game like War-Z that promised many things and delivered none of them, and in response get destroyed by the gaming community.

Then there is the double standard of Guild Wars 2 and Arenanet's "Manifesto" in which many of the things that they claimed and many of the goals that they set ended up simply being fallcies used to hype the game up.

Make sure you don't read to much into this, I am in no way saying that Arenanet are as much of scumbags as Hammerpoint Interactive, but they are both guilty of lying to their playerbase, and that will never go away.

If you actually bothered to look at the gear teirs, when you are taling 1-5% difference in your attributes, it doesn't affect your damage output/healing/blocks/etc, it really is no biggie. Also, they did say they were going to put this tier in, in the manifesto, so you must be speed reading or reading with blinders on.

 

The double standard is on the players end, not the companies end. Ultimately, they need to make money to survive. Fans are a fickle bunch, though.

1-5% makes a pretty big difference to some people.

Speaking of the manifesto, where did they say that DR would be used to prevent the grinding that they did not want anyone to do? Remember, they don't believe in grinding.

And that's the wonderful thing about the manifesto. They can be completely vague and fill in the blanks later on. Great advertising campaign I'll give them that. +1 to their marketing team.

Considering that there are no real DPS checks in this game, and that the difference between exotic and ascended is less than 10 damage per second. Who are these people?

This isn't like WoW or EQ2 tiers, where you will get a few extra thousand DPS from a tier upgrade. You are talking about upgrades of a few stat points, like 1-5. You lose far more stats if you forget to use food.

The primary reason for getting ascended tier is for the fractal progression resists.

If you were decked out in full exotic, and you came across a player in WvW with full exotic and ascended in every possible slot... the match would be decided by skill, not gear. No gear based progression games could claim the same.

Anyone who left the game due to the absurdity of the situation I guess. Personally, I never left because of the stats, I left because they stuck everything into one dungeon and completely forgot WvW and other sections of the game. I guess they thought only people in dungeons want to progress?

Right, then why the need for additional stats then? Agony alone could have been enough to introduce horizontal progression in dungeons. Curious decision.

Great. But you can pretty much claim that a more skilled player will be a less skilled player in any kind of video game. Not exclusive to GW2 in the slightest.

Hold on one second. I did like GW2. I just despise the state that WvW continues to be in because of lack of... I don't know... foresight. Plus until culling is 100% fixed it's just not worth it imo.