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  FelixMajor

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2/01/13 6:13:08 PM#41
It ticks me off actually.  I'm sick of the "you are a hero" story telling.  I just want to be a butt fuck nobody warrior that bashes skulls in, perhaps a few towns know of my name for my hammer swinging skills...but as for being a world saving hero..that shit's getting old 

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  eyelolled

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2/01/13 6:13:35 PM#42
I don't care if the game is centered around me at all in an mmo.  If I was allowed to pick, I would have a world based solely around dynamic event chains, where you can take part with what is happening, not play out a storyline.

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  HeroEvermore

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2/01/13 6:17:20 PM#43
Honestly I do not need to be the Hero. I kind of like when the story starts out and I am not destined for great things but rather it seems I have just stumbled into such a role. As most very good fantasy books start out as well. The formula to be chosen as a hero right away is getting old in games.

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  Quirhid

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2/01/13 6:21:12 PM#44
Originally posted by Kyleran

I played EVE for almost 4 years, and in that entire time I can tell you there's 4 player races and each has some core creed behind them. That's as much of the storyline as I know.

However, in that time I read about the exploits of various players, heroes and viliians, tyrants and despots in many cases, and I loved the fact the stories were about the players, the player corps and the alliances.  Goonswarm, BOB, Northern Coalition, TEST, I fought with and against many of them, I was in fact an active participant even though I never acheived any real personal glory or recogition. (but the opportunity was there, if only I didn't have this damn day job)

That is the real story/lore that I want in my MMORPGs, not some artificial construct made up by Developers.

You think Eve is the only game with stories like that?

Please...

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  evemaster00

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2/01/13 6:24:02 PM#45
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Kyleran

I played EVE for almost 4 years, and in that entire time I can tell you there's 4 player races and each has some core creed behind them. That's as much of the storyline as I know.

However, in that time I read about the exploits of various players, heroes and viliians, tyrants and despots in many cases, and I loved the fact the stories were about the players, the player corps and the alliances.  Goonswarm, BOB, Northern Coalition, TEST, I fought with and against many of them, I was in fact an active participant even though I never acheived any real personal glory or recogition. (but the opportunity was there, if only I didn't have this damn day job)

That is the real story/lore that I want in my MMORPGs, not some artificial construct made up by Developers.

You think Eve is the only game with stories like that?

Please...

Did he say EVE is the only game like that? Weirdo.

  Cecropia

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2/01/13 6:26:46 PM#46
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Kyleran

I played EVE for almost 4 years, and in that entire time I can tell you there's 4 player races and each has some core creed behind them. That's as much of the storyline as I know.

However, in that time I read about the exploits of various players, heroes and viliians, tyrants and despots in many cases, and I loved the fact the stories were about the players, the player corps and the alliances.  Goonswarm, BOB, Northern Coalition, TEST, I fought with and against many of them, I was in fact an active participant even though I never acheived any real personal glory or recogition. (but the opportunity was there, if only I didn't have this damn day job)

That is the real story/lore that I want in my MMORPGs, not some artificial construct made up by Developers.

You think Eve is the only game with stories like that?

Please...

Where in his post did he say EVE was the only game that can provide that kind of experience?

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  Quirhid

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2/01/13 6:36:43 PM#47
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Quirhid
 

Where in his post did he say EVE was the only game that can provide that kind of experience?

Point is: Almost any PvP game has stories like that.

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  BartDaCat

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2/01/13 6:40:21 PM#48

I liked the rogh concept of "phasing" when it was introduced in Wrath of the Lich King, but not from a "I'm the hero" standpoint.  I enjoyed it more from a "progression of historical game lore" perspective, because it was enjoyable to travel through an area that I had watched transform from a hostile environment to one filled with new structures and allies.

 

I guess if people go into it with a "stroking the ego" mentality, then there is something being lost in the translation, either due to the story teller, or from a narrow mind set of the player.

 

I'm not opposed to another MMO borrowing a concept like Phasing as long as the delivery and approach are unique, but if it's just a "Plug Feature X into Formula A for Proven Commercial Success"--- well, then I'd have to say I'm not entirely surprised that it's more of the "Same Ol' Thing".  However, I'd be a bit disappointed that people with the funds and talent to create something fresh would waste their time on such drivel.

  Talgen

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2/01/13 6:41:32 PM#49

Maybe I'm old school, but when I play an MMO I just want to be in that world.  I want to create my own story.  I dont want scripted this or that, I'm the hero of this or that (unless I feel I've earned it, earn it)

I've always just prefered the MMO's (which are are) that let me 'live' in the game world not feel like I'm the narrator of a book.

 

/shrug  Meh...

 

edit: noticed my "Brick" moment.. but leaving it in there lol

  WhiteLantern

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2/01/13 6:45:22 PM#50
Uncle Owen died a horrible death. I don't want to be Uncle Owen.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  Kyleran

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2/01/13 6:51:50 PM#51
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Quirhid
 

Where in his post did he say EVE was the only game that can provide that kind of experience?

Point is: Almost any PvP game has stories like that.

Naw, you won't get stories like that from LOL or some other small scale PVP model.

Legends are built from legendary games, DAOC, Lineage 1, 2, EVE of course, even Darkfall.

Guess you know what sort of titles I favor.

 

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  Destai

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2/01/13 6:58:59 PM#52
Originally posted by fat_taddler

This seems to be the trend with newer games and seems like it will continue with upcoming releases like TESO.

 

I may be in the minority here but I prefer to be a citizen of the world where cool stuff is happening that I can take part in but I certainly don't need to have my ego stroked regularly through personal stories and phased quests that declare me to be some great hero.

 

Overall, I think the "I am the hero" mentality is forcing developers to implement game mechanics that actually detract from what made MMO's so much more collaborative in the past.  

 

 

 

 

I would prefer any setting to feel plausible. I find in many cases, MMORPGs are trying to give the player the same feeling of a single player game. The quests revolve around you, you're the only one who can stop all the deer from becoming more annoying undead deer, etc. The game is trying to give you some semblance of accomplishment, ownership, and belonging.

Realistically, to give players the absolute feeling of citizenship would require a massive leap in technology, nothing short of the ultimate sandbox. Players would have to form their own countries, rules, and god knows what else to make the game resemble our social structures. Since that isn't really possible or affordable to develop, companies opt to imply that those social structures exist. Azeroth has kings, queens, warlords and they all tell us we are great heroes. 

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  Quirhid

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2/01/13 7:15:09 PM#53
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Quirhid
 

Naw, you won't get stories like that from LOL or some other small scale PVP model.

Legends are built from legendary games, DAOC, Lineage 1, 2, EVE of course, even Darkfall.

Guess you know what sort of titles I favor.

Tall tales... There's just as many feuds and alliances, friends and enemies, underdogs and bullies in any PvP game. You just have to be in the scene.

I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  Cecropia

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2/01/13 7:29:16 PM#54
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Quirhid
 

Naw, you won't get stories like that from LOL or some other small scale PVP model.

Legends are built from legendary games, DAOC, Lineage 1, 2, EVE of course, even Darkfall.

Guess you know what sort of titles I favor.

Tall tales... There's just as many feuds and alliances, friends and enemies, underdogs and bullies in any PvP game. You just have to be in the scene.

Not really, man. Some of these games provide an environment for political drama on a level that not all PVP games can offer. PVP games in general can produce some awesome stories, but they are not all created equal in this respect.

"Chuck's a good fighter but he's a UFC fighter... this is Pride." - Quinton Rampage Jackson
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

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