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  Just-The-Facts

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2/01/13 1:14:13 PM#61
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or Shaun of the Dead? Or Dawn of the Dead (the 2004 remake)? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released this year. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

  Aeonblades

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Joined: 10/12/12
Posts: 2123

2/01/13 1:19:35 PM#62
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

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  Nadia

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2/01/13 1:21:23 PM#63
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion

Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.

 

zombies very popular in present

-- thanks to shows like Walking Dead and books like World War Z

 

from todays news:

'World War Z' Super Bowl Spot Debuts New Breed Of Zombie

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1701205/super-bowl-trailers-spots-world-war-z.jhtml

 

even have groups in states making weird news proclaiming they are ready for a zombie attack

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/03/3993965/kansas-militia-expects-zombies.html

 

ive never seen Zombies so popular since the early 70s

 

  Just-The-Facts

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2/01/13 1:26:01 PM#64
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-walking-dead-makes-ratings-history-beats-every-other-show-fall-lineup

Yeah you're completely right....total flop of a show. You going to ever back up your claims with facts or just try and pass your opinions off as facts?

  Sauteed_Onion

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Joined: 11/07/12
Posts: 33

2/01/13 3:03:24 PM#65
Ok ok, Let's nitpick the one line I got in (  ) at the very end of very real and honest observations, which I'll stand beside, there is nothing original or worth any weight in my mind about anything to do with "zombie" culture. If you want to stand up and white knight this game, please do. I could use more lol's in my life. Fact: It is my opinion this game gonna be about as good as the title.
  RefMinor

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2/01/13 3:08:33 PM#66
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Ok ok, Let's nitpick the one line I got in (  ) at the very end of very real and honest observations, which I'll stand beside, there is nothing original or worth any weight in my mind about anything to do with "zombie" culture. If you want to stand up and white knight this game, please do. I could use more lol's in my life. Fact: It is my opinion this game gonna be about as good as the title.

The name is terrible, what next LRN2NOOB Online

  Sauteed_Onion

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Joined: 11/07/12
Posts: 33

2/01/13 3:19:01 PM#67
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Ok ok, Let's nitpick the one line I got in (  ) at the very end of very real and honest observations, which I'll stand beside, there is nothing original or worth any weight in my mind about anything to do with "zombie" culture. If you want to stand up and white knight this game, please do. I could use more lol's in my life. Fact: It is my opinion this game gonna be about as good as the title.

The name is terrible, what next LRN2NOOB Online

I should probably stop before I get called a troll, or hurt somebodies feelings. But this just takes the cake.

  Aeonblades

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Joined: 10/12/12
Posts: 2123

2/01/13 3:24:44 PM#68
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-walking-dead-makes-ratings-history-beats-every-other-show-fall-lineup

Yeah you're completely right....total flop of a show. You going to ever back up your claims with facts or just try and pass your opinions off as facts?

I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, or the people I know personally. Sounds like an issue you need to work out with yourself about whether or not other peoples opinions really affect you. I, as well as a lot of my RL friends, and some people I have talked to in my guild, did not enjoy the show. Did I say the show failed? No, I just said as many people enjoyed it as didn't. For a lot of zombie fans it was a flop, one of my friends is so far into the zombie craze I doubt he will ever come out, and he dislikes the show as well.

I'm sorry it's not the answer you wanted, maybe one day opinions will not bother you, at no point did I say "THIS IS A FACT" I always said it was my opinion, or people I know personally. At this point it just seems like you are grasping at straws to start a fight, and I just don't really care about your opinion. You should do the same for me.

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  RefMinor

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2/01/13 3:30:41 PM#69
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-walking-dead-makes-ratings-history-beats-every-other-show-fall-lineup

Yeah you're completely right....total flop of a show. You going to ever back up your claims with facts or just try and pass your opinions off as facts?

I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, or the people I know personally. Sounds like an issue you need to work out with yourself about whether or not other peoples opinions really affect you. I, as well as a lot of my RL friends, and some people I have talked to in my guild, did not enjoy the show. Did I say the show failed? No, I just said as many people enjoyed it as didn't. For a lot of zombie fans it was a flop, one of my friends is so far into the zombie craze I doubt he will ever come out, and he dislikes the show as well.

I'm sorry it's not the answer you wanted, maybe one day opinions will not bother you, at no point did I say "THIS IS A FACT" I always said it was my opinion, or people I know personally. At this point it just seems like you are grasping at straws to start a fight, and I just don't really care about your opinion. You should do the same for me.

Dude, that link just owned your "opinion". You told him not to use the walking dead as a reference because the show flopped.

for those who can't be bothered to click:

""The Walking Dead" has made television history as the first cable series ever to pull in the highest ratings for the Fall broadcast season among the adult age 18-49 demographic. With this distinction it beat every other broadcast and cable entertainment shows of the season"

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2/01/13 3:36:37 PM#70
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-walking-dead-makes-ratings-history-beats-every-other-show-fall-lineup

Yeah you're completely right....total flop of a show. You going to ever back up your claims with facts or just try and pass your opinions off as facts?

I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, or the people I know personally. Sounds like an issue you need to work out with yourself about whether or not other peoples opinions really affect you. I, as well as a lot of my RL friends, and some people I have talked to in my guild, did not enjoy the show. Did I say the show failed? No, I just said as many people enjoyed it as didn't. For a lot of zombie fans it was a flop, one of my friends is so far into the zombie craze I doubt he will ever come out, and he dislikes the show as well.

I'm sorry it's not the answer you wanted, maybe one day opinions will not bother you, at no point did I say "THIS IS A FACT" I always said it was my opinion, or people I know personally. At this point it just seems like you are grasping at straws to start a fight, and I just don't really care about your opinion. You should do the same for me.

Dude, that link just owned your "opinion". You told him not to use the walking dead as a reference because the show flopped.

for those who can't be bothered to click:

""The Walking Dead" has made television history as the first cable series ever to pull in the highest ratings for the Fall broadcast season among the adult age 18-49 demographic. With this distinction it beat every other broadcast and cable entertainment shows of the season"

What part of popularity doesn't mean everyone likes the same thing don't you guys understand? Is this the same crowd that thinks WoW invented MMOs? I never claimed the whole show flopped. I said, verbatim, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I did not say flopped completely oh my god the worst show ever. I just know people who like it and people who don't like it.

Everyone here takes every post as fact, it's amusing. And highly entertaining.

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2/01/13 3:58:02 PM#71
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-walking-dead-makes-ratings-history-beats-every-other-show-fall-lineup

Yeah you're completely right....total flop of a show. You going to ever back up your claims with facts or just try and pass your opinions off as facts?

I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, or the people I know personally. Sounds like an issue you need to work out with yourself about whether or not other peoples opinions really affect you. I, as well as a lot of my RL friends, and some people I have talked to in my guild, did not enjoy the show. Did I say the show failed? No, I just said as many people enjoyed it as didn't. For a lot of zombie fans it was a flop, one of my friends is so far into the zombie craze I doubt he will ever come out, and he dislikes the show as well.

I'm sorry it's not the answer you wanted, maybe one day opinions will not bother you, at no point did I say "THIS IS A FACT" I always said it was my opinion, or people I know personally. At this point it just seems like you are grasping at straws to start a fight, and I just don't really care about your opinion. You should do the same for me.

Dude, that link just owned your "opinion". You told him not to use the walking dead as a reference because the show flopped.

for those who can't be bothered to click:

""The Walking Dead" has made television history as the first cable series ever to pull in the highest ratings for the Fall broadcast season among the adult age 18-49 demographic. With this distinction it beat every other broadcast and cable entertainment shows of the season"

What part of popularity doesn't mean everyone likes the same thing don't you guys understand? Is this the same crowd that thinks WoW invented MMOs? I never claimed the whole show flopped. I said, verbatim, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I did not say flopped completely oh my god the worst show ever. I just know people who like it and people who don't like it.

Everyone here takes every post as fact, it's amusing. And highly entertaining.

Clearly it didn't flop for a lot of people. Don't you adjust your opinion to take into account of the facts?

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2/01/13 4:16:50 PM#72
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Zombie MMOs are sort of a hot topic these days, and lots of companies seem to want in on the action. Today, we're presenting a novel take on the genre, URDead Online. Being billed as a "small scale online role-playing horror game" or SSORPHG, URDead has quite a few interesting design ideas that seek to set it apart from the throng of zombie shooters out there.

URDEAD Online (UDO) is something we’re half-jokingly calling a SMORPHS: Small-Scale Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Horror Survival (the “Game” is silent.) As our tidy acronym implies, UDO won’t release with the scale of bigger MMOs. We just don’t have the manpower to create dozens of areas; instead, we’ll release new areas as we polish them and feel they are ready for players to be eaten in. Second, UDO is a survival game.  When out in the world, players will want to stay aware of their character. They’ll need to eat and drink whatever they can find to stay effective, scouring for weapons, ammo, crafting materials, and other necessities – while fighting to stay alive. Banding together will have big advantages in certain situations.

the Survival aspect may make this game interesting

 

personally im waiting for Jeff Strains survival sandbox mmo

http://www.tentonhammer.com/undead-labs ... ay-16-2011

At the Lab we refer to the game we are making as a “survival sandbox” game.

We want to drop you into the heart of a zombie apocalypse and let you put your personal survival plan to the test in an open world,with no predefined quest paths, no levels, no corridors, and no canned character progression; just you, your plan, your equipment, and your wits.
  Aeonblades

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2/01/13 4:34:46 PM#73
Originally posted by RefMinor

Clearly it didn't flop for a lot of people. Don't you adjust your opinion to take into account of the facts?

No because the 'facts', which are completely irrelevant to what I was talking about, have no bearing on my opinion or other people who have already seen and don't like the show. Whether 10 million people enjoyed it or 100 million people. Good for the people who enjoyed it, and more power to them, but for a lot of my friends and myself, it was a flop. At no point did I ever say the show was a complete failure anyway, just that I don't know anyone personally who enjoyed it past the first season. a lot =/= all.

Hell even though I'm beyond tired of zombies, I even watched the first 6 episodes. Note I said I'm, not everyone please :D

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  Just-The-Facts

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2/01/13 5:36:11 PM#74
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Uhwop

There's how many high fantasy games out?  The zombie game genre has barely been touched, and people keep going on about all the zombie games out there. 

 

DayZ isn't an MMO, and WarZ...well it exiists.  Where are all these zombie mmo's people are sick of?  I can think of like 5 single player zombie games, and left 4 dead accounts for 2 of them. 

 

I could spend the next day and a half listing all of the fantasy RPG's out there. 

 

It's like a bunch of grown men who are in love with my little pony have taken it upon themselves to wage a propoganda war, and convince everyone that no one likes zombies.  You guys are wrong, and giant frigging weirdos to boot. 

Zombies ate my pony.

There's uh like more than 5 zombie games just in Resident Evil. If you're going to stand up for your "genre", then put more effort into it. Granted most of the RE games are older, and yes there's a crap ton of fantasy mmorpg's. I will also add at least those fantasy RPG's have "zombie" in em, this is probably like a sub genre within a genre.. By all means dude, I'm sure this will have it's flock of 13 year olds who've talked some random 40 year old single parent to playing with them which will keep it afloat, and feel free to join them but this will not be the injection of quality into the "genre" which it needs, not with a name like URDEAD, and not with first gen playstation 2 graphics (and that's cutting it some slack). I could be wrong, but I didn't downcast Minecraft and the graphics were way worse. In the event this blows up into like Pokemon success levels, I'll eat an ice cream in it's name, and honor it's glorious battle against the odds it has yet to wage. (Srsly, zombie died in the 80's along with zombie gore flicks, which was more comedy than horror.)

 

        Then explain the success of The Walking Dead? Or the fact that two blockbuster zombie flicks are being released very shortly. And I would like to point out that if the zombie "fad" is truly dead and there is no market for the genre than how did a pile of crap like War Z cause such controversy? If no one wants zombie games than no one would have bought into that scam...but many did, and why? Perhaps the allure of ZOMBIES had something to do with it....

I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people. I get some people are just catching on to the zombie fad of years ago, but a lot of us are tired of having the most boring monster in fantasy jammed down our throats. (Besides maybe a large rat. No telling how many virtual rats have died.) I'm sure zombie MMO's will always have those die hard fans, but most of them are going to end in the same way. Boom.

To each their own, as long as you are having fun does it really matter though? I hope for their sake someone eventually releases a successfull zombie mmo, but I have my doubts if this is the one.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-walking-dead-makes-ratings-history-beats-every-other-show-fall-lineup

Yeah you're completely right....total flop of a show. You going to ever back up your claims with facts or just try and pass your opinions off as facts?

I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, or the people I know personally. Sounds like an issue you need to work out with yourself about whether or not other peoples opinions really affect you. I, as well as a lot of my RL friends, and some people I have talked to in my guild, did not enjoy the show. Did I say the show failed? No, I just said as many people enjoyed it as didn't. For a lot of zombie fans it was a flop, one of my friends is so far into the zombie craze I doubt he will ever come out, and he dislikes the show as well.

I'm sorry it's not the answer you wanted, maybe one day opinions will not bother you, at no point did I say "THIS IS A FACT" I always said it was my opinion, or people I know personally. At this point it just seems like you are grasping at straws to start a fight, and I just don't really care about your opinion. You should do the same for me.

        If you don't like people debating your "opinions" then I suggest you don't come to a public forum. Sounds like you have a problem with people not agreeing with you. Toughen up if your going to continue posting because we are not all just going to nod our heads and agree with everything you say. Instead of dodging the issues presented why don't you present some FACTS to back up your side of the argument? Or just continue trolling, your choice.

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2/01/13 6:21:50 PM#75
Originally posted by Aeonblades
Originally posted by RefMinor

Clearly it didn't flop for a lot of people. Don't you adjust your opinion to take into account of the facts?

No because the 'facts', which are completely irrelevant to what I was talking about, have no bearing on my opinion or other people who have already seen and don't like the show. Whether 10 million people enjoyed it or 100 million people. Good for the people who enjoyed it, and more power to them, but for a lot of my friends and myself, it was a flop. At no point did I ever say the show was a complete failure anyway, just that I don't know anyone personally who enjoyed it past the first season. a lot =/= all.

Hell even though I'm beyond tired of zombies, I even watched the first 6 episodes. Note I said I'm, not everyone please :D

        The exact phrase you used was "I wouldn't use the Walking Dead as a reference, that show flopped after the first few episodes for a lot of people." Translation : The Walking Dead isnt popular or successful enough to use as a good example when defending the issue of wether or not the Zombie genre is dead.

     I then present you with a link that proves without a shadow of a doubt that The Walking Dead is a very good example to provide when defending the Zombie genre's popularity. Do you take to the forums to present well thought out counter points or even facts of your own...no, you choose to backpedal and cower behind semantics. You are entitled to your opinion as is everyone (thats what makes debates fun) but you don't seem to know the difference between "your world" and the real world.

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2/01/13 7:10:45 PM#76

Alright gents, this whole thing about semantics and wildness started with a some idiocy I put in ( ) at the end of some very valid observations. I recognized it was hyperbole before I even wrote it. The point I am making was actually something I said in the 2nd snippet I even said here. It was that the zombie thing played out of ideas in the 80's (and I'll go a stretch and even say mid 90's) as far as innovative cool new ideas. Everything since has been a "gorier" grittier version ever since, and this was before zombie games started popping up all over. My opinion on this whole genre remains as I previously said, the whole thing is good in a Tommy Wiseau's The Room is good way, it's just not. It's wildly more believable that people actually watch that show because it was an awe inspiring theatric masterpiece, than it is to assume this game is going to interject quality and anything meaningful into this genre with a name like URDEAD and visuals on par with what's shown here. The concept is about as original as World of Warcrafts' and will probably nab a small portion of that audience and everyone will have their fairy fruity cup cakes and live happily ever after. Please by all means, continue to buy into this absolute garbage, so that it will continue to proliferate and saturate our markets for generations to come. And when something brilliant and truly monumental comes around, feel free to insult and bicker every little minute detail when it does happen. In the mean time, enjoy arguing with eachother (and me when I actually have time to do more than just lurk).

 

 I'll state a fact, this caught my attention not because it looked cool, or that it was a zombie title, but because I just could NOT believe a name like URDEAD was seriously considered enough in the first place to be on the drawing board. That is a fact, that's exactly what I thought. I was like oh god, how stupid is this going to be. I was floored. The line that specifically got me was "We want UDO to push the zombie apocalypse setting in some new directions." Cool beans. I hope they can pull it off, perhaps some part of me will be less bitter or cynical towards MMORPG's in the first place. As I said, if they happen to bound into the realm of top 10's or whatever, I'll eat a ice cream in their honor.

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2/01/13 8:00:08 PM#77
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion

Alright gents, this whole thing about semantics and wildness started with a some idiocy I put in ( ) at the end of some very valid observations. I recognized it was hyperbole before I even wrote it. The point I am making was actually something I said in the 2nd snippet I even said here. It was that the zombie thing played out of ideas in the 80's (and I'll go a stretch and even say mid 90's) as far as innovative cool new ideas. Everything since has been a "gorier" grittier version ever since, and this was before zombie games started popping up all over. My opinion on this whole genre remains as I previously said, the whole thing is good in a Tommy Wiseau's The Room is good way, it's just not. It's wildly more believable that people actually watch that show because it was an awe inspiring theatric masterpiece, than it is to assume this game is going to interject quality and anything meaningful into this genre with a name like URDEAD and visuals on par with what's shown here. The concept is about as original as World of Warcrafts' and will probably nab a small portion of that audience and everyone will have their fairy fruity cup cakes and live happily ever after. Please by all means, continue to buy into this absolute garbage, so that it will continue to proliferate and saturate our markets for generations to come. And when something brilliant and truly monumental comes around, feel free to insult and bicker every little minute detail when it does happen. In the mean time, enjoy arguing with eachother (and me when I actually have time to do more than just lurk).

 

 I'll state a fact, this caught my attention not because it looked cool, or that it was a zombie title, but because I just could NOT believe a name like URDEAD was seriously considered enough in the first place to be on the drawing board. That is a fact, that's exactly what I thought. I was like oh god, how stupid is this going to be. I was floored. The line that specifically got me was "We want UDO to push the zombie apocalypse setting in some new directions." Cool beans. I hope they can pull it off, perhaps some part of me will be less bitter or cynical towards MMORPG's in the first place. As I said, if they happen to bound into the realm of top 10's or whatever, I'll eat a ice cream in their honor.

        This became much more than "Will URDEAD be successfull?". In fact at no point in this thread did anyone claim this title was the QUALITY zombie mmo the genre needs, so im not sure where you were going with that? Most of this thread was just the same...dumb name = bad game argument. Which is of course such a valid and precise way to judge a games quality. No this thread evolved into a debate on wether or not there is a viable market out there for zombie themed media or has the "fad" died out?  Slightly off topic? Yes but regardless still the debate at hand.

        You state that everything since the 80's (and mid 90's) has just been "gorier" grittier versions of the zombie media of those times. Explain unique zombie movies like Fido, Shaun of the Dead or (the sick and twisted) Dead Girl, all movies released after 2000. Most of the zombie genre is, on a fluctuating scale, similar to each other but what genre doesn't suffer this? War movies? Westerns? Crime drama? Teen comedies? Romance? Fantasy? These are all genres that share similarities from story to story for the most part.  I don't see any of these genres including the Zombie genre dissapearing because of this.

        I totally agree that The Walking Dead is an awe-inspiring theatric masterpiece and has without a doubt played a part in its widespread success, but lets not forget this show started out as an indie comic and due to that comics rather extensive, large and lets not forget international fanbase it was transformed into a TV series. Are you honestly going to say that the fact that it has zombies in it has nothing or at the very least a minimal impact on why so many people enjoy it? Also explain why zombie costumes were the #5 most popular costume of Halloween 2012? Not Rick or Shane costumes but ZOMBIE costumes.

       Not pointing fingers but I can't comprehend why anyone who has a problem with arguing would come to a public forum and put their ideas out for everyone to read? Thats like going to the beach and complaining about the sand. Debating issues is what public forums are for. If you can't be bothered to defend your arguments logically and factually then why bother posting them to begin with? I love a good debate and thrive on differing opinions but I will not stand by and let people just run off at the mouth without demanding an explanation.

        So in conclusion will URDEAD be successfull? I don't know because I nor anyone I know can predict the future. I'll just have to wait and see and hope that it can pull it off. But the success or failure does not change the fact that Zombies have been around long before you or I and will still be around long after you and I have turned to dust. The Zombie "fad" has been going on since the dawn of civilization and no amount of crap games and campy movies is going to change that.

 

 

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2/01/13 8:26:55 PM#78
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion

Alright gents, this whole thing about semantics and wildness started with a some idiocy I put in ( ) at the end of some very valid observations. I recognized it was hyperbole before I even wrote it. The point I am making was actually something I said in the 2nd snippet I even said here. It was that the zombie thing played out of ideas in the 80's (and I'll go a stretch and even say mid 90's) as far as innovative cool new ideas. Everything since has been a "gorier" grittier version ever since, and this was before zombie games started popping up all over. My opinion on this whole genre remains as I previously said, the whole thing is good in a Tommy Wiseau's The Room is good way, it's just not. It's wildly more believable that people actually watch that show because it was an awe inspiring theatric masterpiece, than it is to assume this game is going to interject quality and anything meaningful into this genre with a name like URDEAD and visuals on par with what's shown here. The concept is about as original as World of Warcrafts' and will probably nab a small portion of that audience and everyone will have their fairy fruity cup cakes and live happily ever after. Please by all means, continue to buy into this absolute garbage, so that it will continue to proliferate and saturate our markets for generations to come. And when something brilliant and truly monumental comes around, feel free to insult and bicker every little minute detail when it does happen. In the mean time, enjoy arguing with eachother (and me when I actually have time to do more than just lurk).

 

 I'll state a fact, this caught my attention not because it looked cool, or that it was a zombie title, but because I just could NOT believe a name like URDEAD was seriously considered enough in the first place to be on the drawing board. That is a fact, that's exactly what I thought. I was like oh god, how stupid is this going to be. I was floored. The line that specifically got me was "We want UDO to push the zombie apocalypse setting in some new directions." Cool beans. I hope they can pull it off, perhaps some part of me will be less bitter or cynical towards MMORPG's in the first place. As I said, if they happen to bound into the realm of top 10's or whatever, I'll eat a ice cream in their honor.

        This became much more than "Will URDEAD be successfull?". In fact at no point in this thread did anyone claim this title was the QUALITY zombie mmo the genre needs, so im not sure where you were going with that? Most of this thread was just the same...dumb name = bad game argument. Which is of course such a valid and precise way to judge a games quality. No this thread evolved into a debate on wether or not there is a viable market out there for zombie themed media or has the "fad" died out?  Slightly off topic? Yes but regardless still the debate at hand.

        You state that everything since the 80's (and mid 90's) has just been "gorier" grittier versions of the zombie media of those times. Explain unique zombie movies like Fido, Shaun of the Dead or (the sick and twisted) Dead Girl, all movies released after 2000. Most of the zombie genre is, on a fluctuating scale, similar to each other but what genre doesn't suffer this? War movies? Westerns? Crime drama? Teen comedies? Romance? Fantasy? These are all genres that share similarities from story to story for the most part.  I don't see any of these genres including the Zombie genre dissapearing because of this.

        I totally agree that The Walking Dead is an awe-inspiring theatric masterpiece and has without a doubt played a part in its widespread success, but lets not forget this show started out as an indie comic and due to that comics rather extensive, large and lets not forget international fanbase it was transformed into a TV series. Are you honestly going to say that the fact that it has zombies in it has nothing or at the very least a minimal impact on why so many people enjoy it? Also explain why zombie costumes were the #5 most popular costume of Halloween 2012? Not Rick or Shane costumes but ZOMBIE costumes.

       Not pointing fingers but I can't comprehend why anyone who has a problem with arguing would come to a public forum and put their ideas out for everyone to read? Thats like going to the beach and complaining about the sand. Debating issues is what public forums are for. If you can't be bothered to defend your arguments logically and factually then why bother posting them to begin with? I love a good debate and thrive on differing opinions but I will not stand by and let people just run off at the mouth without demanding an explanation.

        So in conclusion will URDEAD be successfull? I don't know because I nor anyone I know can predict the future. I'll just have to wait and see and hope that it can pull it off. But the success or failure does not change the fact that Zombies have been around long before you or I and will still be around long after you and I have turned to dust. The Zombie "fad" has been going on since the dawn of civilization and no amount of crap games and campy movies is going to change that.

 

 

Actually, in one of the very first parts of this interview, they mention "We really trying to balance our own spin on a zombie apocalypse with our affection for the history of a genre." Basically they are trying to carve their notch in this tree trunk. At no point did I say anything about The Walking Dead in something you quoted from me, and when I was a kid I dressed up as a zombie for Halloween back in the late 80's. I'm sure a lot of children dressed up as zombies for halloween this year too, (we'll not go into anything other than meaningless dribble here, cause it is an MMO, not rocket science), we'll also take into consideration the population of the world has increased substantially from the years when zombie stuff was kinda sorta fresh. We'll just say World of Warcraft is the top selling MMO game ever, and probably will remain the most subscribed to and freakishly successful MMORPG that has ever happened for a long time. Does that mean I'm saying it's good? Hell no. Does that mean I'm saying this is a WoW clone, definately not. Throw your stastics out there, and bandwagon this baby all you want, I'm telling you I feel the way I feel, and I'll feel that way til the zombies come bashing my door in and stealing my ice cream.

Also, Shaun of the Dead is a satire on zombie stuff, it is comedy. Thank you.
 
 
 
  Just-The-Facts

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2/01/13 11:12:26 PM#79
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion

Alright gents, this whole thing about semantics and wildness started with a some idiocy I put in ( ) at the end of some very valid observations. I recognized it was hyperbole before I even wrote it. The point I am making was actually something I said in the 2nd snippet I even said here. It was that the zombie thing played out of ideas in the 80's (and I'll go a stretch and even say mid 90's) as far as innovative cool new ideas. Everything since has been a "gorier" grittier version ever since, and this was before zombie games started popping up all over. My opinion on this whole genre remains as I previously said, the whole thing is good in a Tommy Wiseau's The Room is good way, it's just not. It's wildly more believable that people actually watch that show because it was an awe inspiring theatric masterpiece, than it is to assume this game is going to interject quality and anything meaningful into this genre with a name like URDEAD and visuals on par with what's shown here. The concept is about as original as World of Warcrafts' and will probably nab a small portion of that audience and everyone will have their fairy fruity cup cakes and live happily ever after. Please by all means, continue to buy into this absolute garbage, so that it will continue to proliferate and saturate our markets for generations to come. And when something brilliant and truly monumental comes around, feel free to insult and bicker every little minute detail when it does happen. In the mean time, enjoy arguing with eachother (and me when I actually have time to do more than just lurk).

 

 I'll state a fact, this caught my attention not because it looked cool, or that it was a zombie title, but because I just could NOT believe a name like URDEAD was seriously considered enough in the first place to be on the drawing board. That is a fact, that's exactly what I thought. I was like oh god, how stupid is this going to be. I was floored. The line that specifically got me was "We want UDO to push the zombie apocalypse setting in some new directions." Cool beans. I hope they can pull it off, perhaps some part of me will be less bitter or cynical towards MMORPG's in the first place. As I said, if they happen to bound into the realm of top 10's or whatever, I'll eat a ice cream in their honor.

        This became much more than "Will URDEAD be successfull?". In fact at no point in this thread did anyone claim this title was the QUALITY zombie mmo the genre needs, so im not sure where you were going with that? Most of this thread was just the same...dumb name = bad game argument. Which is of course such a valid and precise way to judge a games quality. No this thread evolved into a debate on wether or not there is a viable market out there for zombie themed media or has the "fad" died out?  Slightly off topic? Yes but regardless still the debate at hand.

        You state that everything since the 80's (and mid 90's) has just been "gorier" grittier versions of the zombie media of those times. Explain unique zombie movies like Fido, Shaun of the Dead or (the sick and twisted) Dead Girl, all movies released after 2000. Most of the zombie genre is, on a fluctuating scale, similar to each other but what genre doesn't suffer this? War movies? Westerns? Crime drama? Teen comedies? Romance? Fantasy? These are all genres that share similarities from story to story for the most part.  I don't see any of these genres including the Zombie genre dissapearing because of this.

        I totally agree that The Walking Dead is an awe-inspiring theatric masterpiece and has without a doubt played a part in its widespread success, but lets not forget this show started out as an indie comic and due to that comics rather extensive, large and lets not forget international fanbase it was transformed into a TV series. Are you honestly going to say that the fact that it has zombies in it has nothing or at the very least a minimal impact on why so many people enjoy it? Also explain why zombie costumes were the #5 most popular costume of Halloween 2012? Not Rick or Shane costumes but ZOMBIE costumes.

       Not pointing fingers but I can't comprehend why anyone who has a problem with arguing would come to a public forum and put their ideas out for everyone to read? Thats like going to the beach and complaining about the sand. Debating issues is what public forums are for. If you can't be bothered to defend your arguments logically and factually then why bother posting them to begin with? I love a good debate and thrive on differing opinions but I will not stand by and let people just run off at the mouth without demanding an explanation.

        So in conclusion will URDEAD be successfull? I don't know because I nor anyone I know can predict the future. I'll just have to wait and see and hope that it can pull it off. But the success or failure does not change the fact that Zombies have been around long before you or I and will still be around long after you and I have turned to dust. The Zombie "fad" has been going on since the dawn of civilization and no amount of crap games and campy movies is going to change that.

 

 

Actually, in one of the very first parts of this interview, they mention "We really trying to balance our own spin on a zombie apocalypse with our affection for the history of a genre." Basically they are trying to carve their notch in this tree trunk. At no point did I say anything about The Walking Dead in something you quoted from me, and when I was a kid I dressed up as a zombie for Halloween back in the late 80's. I'm sure a lot of children dressed up as zombies for halloween this year too, (we'll not go into anything other than meaningless dribble here, cause it is an MMO, not rocket science), we'll also take into consideration the population of the world has increased substantially from the years when zombie stuff was kinda sorta fresh. We'll just say World of Warcraft is the top selling MMO game ever, and probably will remain the most subscribed to and freakishly successful MMORPG that has ever happened for a long time. Does that mean I'm saying it's good? Hell no. Does that mean I'm saying this is a WoW clone, definately not. Throw your stastics out there, and bandwagon this baby all you want, I'm telling you I feel the way I feel, and I'll feel that way til the zombies come bashing my door in and stealing my ice cream.

Also, Shaun of the Dead is a satire on zombie stuff, it is comedy. Thank you.
 
 
 

         Im not quite sure where to begin. I mean is this an elaborate troll attempt or do you normally miss the point in conversations? I'm debating the Zombie genre as a whole (all facets of media) while you seem to be debating the genre on terms of this game alone in which case you are arguing with yourself because no one else is debating the issue of wether or not URDEAD will be successful. Quite frankly it doesn't seem like anyone so far in this thread could give a crap about that. If it works it will make money if not well POOF it will dissapear like many before.  However if you are debating wether the Zombie genre as a whole is dead than this post is for you. Lets work backwards shall we. Lets color code it for convenience.

GREEN

        Do you truly believe that Shaun of the Dead can't be considered a part of the Zombie genre because it is a comedy? Shaun of the Dead is referred to as a ZOMEDY (look it up its a real term). Want to take a guess what thats a play on? Zombie Comedy perhaps? It is also a very innovative zomedy as it runs the full gamut of emotions..thus disputing your whole "no innovative zombie stuff after the 80's & mid-90's" argument.

YELLOW

        I fail to see what this has even remotely to do with this argument? What does that even mean? When was Zombie stuff sort of fresh? Zombie stuff has been around for thousands of years. You do realize the world was created before the 80's right?

BLUE

     That quote seems to me like you are saying that The Walking Dead is popular solely on its cinematics and has nothing or little to do with zombies. If I mis-understood this I apologize maybe try to be more coherent next time. Again I think you are arguing about the success of this game in which case you are on your own buddy.

RED

        Somehow I missed this the first time I was responding. I just have to say that before you posted your previous response I had no idea you even existed on this thread. This was a discussion between Aeonblades and myself. So no my friend you had absolutley nothing to do with this debate until now. And quite frankly it seems like you still have nothing to do with this debate. Although you do make a valid point with that idiocy thing.

ORANGE

        Think of this as sort of a disclaimer on this post.

 

  Sauteed_Onion

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Joined: 11/07/12
Posts: 33

2/02/13 3:03:26 AM#80
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion
Originally posted by Just-The-Facts
Originally posted by Sauteed_Onion

Alright gents, this whole thing about semantics and wildness started with a some idiocy I put in ( ) at the end of some very valid observations. I recognized it was hyperbole before I even wrote it. The point I am making was actually something I said in the 2nd snippet I even said here. It was that the zombie thing played out of ideas in the 80's (and I'll go a stretch and even say mid 90's) as far as innovative cool new ideas. Everything since has been a "gorier" grittier version ever since, and this was before zombie games started popping up all over. My opinion on this whole genre remains as I previously said, the whole thing is good in a Tommy Wiseau's The Room is good way, it's just not. It's wildly more believable that people actually watch that show because it was an awe inspiring theatric masterpiece, than it is to assume this game is going to interject quality and anything meaningful into this genre with a name like URDEAD and visuals on par with what's shown here. The concept is about as original as World of Warcrafts' and will probably nab a small portion of that audience and everyone will have their fairy fruity cup cakes and live happily ever after. Please by all means, continue to buy into this absolute garbage, so that it will continue to proliferate and saturate our markets for generations to come. And when something brilliant and truly monumental comes around, feel free to insult and bicker every little minute detail when it does happen. In the mean time, enjoy arguing with eachother (and me when I actually have time to do more than just lurk).

 

 I'll state a fact, this caught my attention not because it looked cool, or that it was a zombie title, but because I just could NOT believe a name like URDEAD was seriously considered enough in the first place to be on the drawing board. That is a fact, that's exactly what I thought. I was like oh god, how stupid is this going to be. I was floored. The line that specifically got me was "We want UDO to push the zombie apocalypse setting in some new directions." Cool beans. I hope they can pull it off, perhaps some part of me will be less bitter or cynical towards MMORPG's in the first place. As I said, if they happen to bound into the realm of top 10's or whatever, I'll eat a ice cream in their honor.

        This became much more than "Will URDEAD be successfull?". In fact at no point in this thread did anyone claim this title was the QUALITY zombie mmo the genre needs, so im not sure where you were going with that? Most of this thread was just the same...dumb name = bad game argument. Which is of course such a valid and precise way to judge a games quality. No this thread evolved into a debate on wether or not there is a viable market out there for zombie themed media or has the "fad" died out?  Slightly off topic? Yes but regardless still the debate at hand.

        You state that everything since the 80's (and mid 90's) has just been "gorier" grittier versions of the zombie media of those times. Explain unique zombie movies like Fido, Shaun of the Dead or (the sick and twisted) Dead Girl, all movies released after 2000. Most of the zombie genre is, on a fluctuating scale, similar to each other but what genre doesn't suffer this? War movies? Westerns? Crime drama? Teen comedies? Romance? Fantasy? These are all genres that share similarities from story to story for the most part.  I don't see any of these genres including the Zombie genre dissapearing because of this.

        I totally agree that The Walking Dead is an awe-inspiring theatric masterpiece and has without a doubt played a part in its widespread success, but lets not forget this show started out as an indie comic and due to that comics rather extensive, large and lets not forget international fanbase it was transformed into a TV series. Are you honestly going to say that the fact that it has zombies in it has nothing or at the very least a minimal impact on why so many people enjoy it? Also explain why zombie costumes were the #5 most popular costume of Halloween 2012? Not Rick or Shane costumes but ZOMBIE costumes.

       Not pointing fingers but I can't comprehend why anyone who has a problem with arguing would come to a public forum and put their ideas out for everyone to read? Thats like going to the beach and complaining about the sand. Debating issues is what public forums are for. If you can't be bothered to defend your arguments logically and factually then why bother posting them to begin with? I love a good debate and thrive on differing opinions but I will not stand by and let people just run off at the mouth without demanding an explanation.

        So in conclusion will URDEAD be successfull? I don't know because I nor anyone I know can predict the future. I'll just have to wait and see and hope that it can pull it off. But the success or failure does not change the fact that Zombies have been around long before you or I and will still be around long after you and I have turned to dust. The Zombie "fad" has been going on since the dawn of civilization and no amount of crap games and campy movies is going to change that.

 

 

Actually, in one of the very first parts of this interview, they mention "We really trying to balance our own spin on a zombie apocalypse with our affection for the history of a genre." Basically they are trying to carve their notch in this tree trunk. At no point did I say anything about The Walking Dead in something you quoted from me, and when I was a kid I dressed up as a zombie for Halloween back in the late 80's. I'm sure a lot of children dressed up as zombies for halloween this year too, (we'll not go into anything other than meaningless dribble here, cause it is an MMO, not rocket science), we'll also take into consideration the population of the world has increased substantially from the years when zombie stuff was kinda sorta fresh. We'll just say World of Warcraft is the top selling MMO game ever, and probably will remain the most subscribed to and freakishly successful MMORPG that has ever happened for a long time. Does that mean I'm saying it's good? Hell no. Does that mean I'm saying this is a WoW clone, definately not. Throw your stastics out there, and bandwagon this baby all you want, I'm telling you I feel the way I feel, and I'll feel that way til the zombies come bashing my door in and stealing my ice cream.

Also, Shaun of the Dead is a satire on zombie stuff, it is comedy. Thank you.
 
 
 

         Im not quite sure where to begin. I mean is this an elaborate troll attempt or do you normally miss the point in conversations? I'm debating the Zombie genre as a whole (all facets of media) while you seem to be debating the genre on terms of this game alone in which case you are arguing with yourself because no one else is debating the issue of wether or not URDEAD will be successful. Quite frankly it doesn't seem like anyone so far in this thread could give a crap about that. If it works it will make money if not well POOF it will dissapear like many before.  However if you are debating wether the Zombie genre as a whole is dead than this post is for you. Lets work backwards shall we. Lets color code it for convenience.

GREEN

        Do you truly believe that Shaun of the Dead can't be considered a part of the Zombie genre because it is a comedy? Shaun of the Dead is referred to as a ZOMEDY (look it up its a real term). Want to take a guess what thats a play on? Zombie Comedy perhaps? It is also a very innovative zomedy as it runs the full gamut of emotions..thus disputing your whole "no innovative zombie stuff after the 80's & mid-90's" argument.

YELLOW

        I fail to see what this has even remotely to do with this argument? What does that even mean? When was Zombie stuff sort of fresh? Zombie stuff has been around for thousands of years. You do realize the world was created before the 80's right?

BLUE

     That quote seems to me like you are saying that The Walking Dead is popular solely on its cinematics and has nothing or little to do with zombies. If I mis-understood this I apologize maybe try to be more coherent next time. Again I think you are arguing about the success of this game in which case you are on your own buddy.

RED

        Somehow I missed this the first time I was responding. I just have to say that before you posted your previous response I had no idea you even existed on this thread. This was a discussion between Aeonblades and myself. So no my friend you had absolutley nothing to do with this debate until now. And quite frankly it seems like you still have nothing to do with this debate. Although you do make a valid point with that idiocy thing.

ORANGE

        Think of this as sort of a disclaimer on this post.

 

I would say your Green schpeel being an opinion (I was not taken on the emotional joy ride you seem to think it delivered, we're all entitled to our perceptions on this.), can be debated. There is nothing you can possibly say to sway me into thinking you're proving to me that zombie isn't done and over with before either of us were even born. This is my opinion. It is a fact that is my opinion. If you want to pick an intelligently formed opinion and put colors in there and that makes feel special, then I'm sure this game is geared for you to enjoy.

 

 Your blue point, I never mentioned anything about The Walking Dead, in any post. Quite literally that paragon of television excellence has eluded my eyes. I did say it is wildly more believeable that Tommy Wiseau's the Room is watched because it is a theatrical masterpiece than it is to believe that this particular game is good. You can look that up, I'm sure you'll see how I feel about zombie stuff then.

 

 Yellow, you commented about zombie outfits being the most popular at some point, I honestly don't care, won't care, and didn't care but you mentioned you failed to see what that pertained to. That line is pertaining to zombie outfits. In particular when I was a kid, I dressed up as a zombie one year for halloween. The world has increased in population since that time, and I am certain many more children have decided to dress up as zombies.

 

 Red, who ever you were talking with and you were arguing over what appeared to be somebody highlighting an obviously comical and highly opinionated statement I made in parentheses. If you did not know the red statement was such, I am 100% certain this game will be extremely enjoyable for you. Good day.

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