None of the pre-orders are worth the money.

Having the first pack valued at 50$ gives reference of an insanely expensive cash shop PW-style.

Considering the dungeon master tool needs to bought aswell there probably won't be a massive community in creating adventures, which becomes their downfall. Unless they change their stuff this game is going to sink.

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Considering the dungeon master tool needs to bought aswell there probably won't be a massive community in creating adventures, which becomes their downfall. Unless they change their stuff this game is going to sink.

From what I have read, the Froundry is free to everyone after they reach level 15 (founder pack buyers get the Foundry earlier).

Non of the beta access packs are  worth it ..unless you realy realy want that spider mount, but hey its PW they will try anyting to make  a few bucks by offering things a few players may want coz like it or not some gamers will buy it and the production cost are near 0 (its mostly goodies that are slight visual change of other ingame assets or items not used during production)

Next up are the chest of shadows, buy them now and get a black spider mount almost like the founders one! loot chance 2% , cost only $5 per chest! get them now!!!!!!!

Self restrain is needed when playong PW/cryptic games :P

Originally posted by jtcgs
Perfect World has nothing to do with the founder offers...these things have been around since Asherons Call 2 and City of Heroes.

Yeah but they had those when both of those games were P2P and they were subscriptions for lifetime. This is a lot different so I find $200 to be kind of steep.

Originally posted by Razeekster

Originally posted by jtcgs
Perfect World has nothing to do with the founder offers...these things have been around since Asherons Call 2 and City of Heroes.

Yeah but they had those when both of those games were P2P and they were subscriptions for lifetime. This is a lot different so I find $200 to be kind of steep.

it isnt a lot different, you are getting 750,000 of their cash shop credits to spend thus making up for the $15 a month you are saving from a lifetime sub...going by Perfect World coins or whatever they are called it looks to be worth over $400 worth of cash shop credit.

Originally posted by Aroton
I may be mistaken, but don't these packs come with a shit ton of the cash shop currency? Like 750k of it for the 200 dollar version.

Sure, but we have no idea what 750,000 astral diamonds means.

Originally posted by Saerain

Originally posted by Aroton
I may be mistaken, but don't these packs come with a shit ton of the cash shop currency? Like 750k of it for the 200 dollar version.

Sure, but we have no idea what 750,000 astral diamonds means.

 Agreed, thats a terrible PR move, honestly without an open beta I dont know how anyone could buy that pack. Only point being, it IS more than just mounts, and chests.

The founder's offer is more a Cryptic thing than a PWE thing.  I found it absurd though that were only only offering those items for a $200 edition, I'd expect something more like a traditional founder's pack where you receive monthly currency to spend and benefits other unlocks you'd get normally as a "subscriber" like having expansion content automatically unlocked for you.  Throwing in a bunch of items especially when we haven't played the game with no future benefits seems a bit strange to me.

The trailer was amongst the cheesiest I've seen in a long time.  It's like they aren't taking this seriously.

I'd personally value the items like so:

$10 - New Race

$10 - Armored Spider Mount

$10 - Panther Companion

$5 - Golden Moonstone Mask Set

$5 - Armor Aura

$5 - Bag

??? - Dungeon Master Unlock (I thought this was going to be a normal feature in game)

$5 - Treasure Box

$5 - Adventurer's Helper Pack

$2 - Respec Token

$5 - Legacy Weapon

$5 - Robe of Useless Items

??? - 750,000 Astral Diamonds (they should give us an idea of how much this actually is)

3 extra character slots - ~$10

Bundling it all together: At least 50% off since we are essentially preordering it.

So I'm only looking at $38.50 in value here and 2 unknowns, for $200?

I wasn't a fan of Cryptic's business practics in the past and Perfect World cash shops have always been expensive, but managable (especially since you can buy most of the items from the PWI from other players with a bit of grinding anyway); however unless those 750k Astral Diamonds are something like $300 worth of in game currency their current cash shop model isn't looking very good at the moment.  Remember PWE and Cryptic it's "MICRO"transactions

Originally posted by chaintm
When cash = prestige, there is a problem yes.

Agreed. Also I think it's wrong to charge for races but that's probably just me.

Originally posted by Saerain

Originally posted by Aroton
I may be mistaken, but don't these packs come with a shit ton of the cash shop currency? Like 750k of it for the 200 dollar version.

Sure, but we have no idea what 750,000 astral diamonds means.

People on the official forums compared it to STO and CO stores equivilent.  Pretty much once it's converted to Yen tthe American dollar worth is sitting round $43 to be used in the store I assume.  Yeah you would think 750k would be like $80or $120 worth but really it only comes out to $43 if those who did the calculations were right, it comes out to $43.

Originally posted by Razeekster
That $200 dollars for a free to play game's foundary pack is a bit expensive? I could understand if that included a lifetime subscription, but this is going to be free to play. I think $100 would be more of a reasonable price, but maybe I'm just crazy or something and this is normal.

The fanboys will tell you no, but the normal MMO crowd would say fuck yeah it's a bit expensive.  I reckon only the Drizzit/Drow fan cluib is going after this, or the blind citing that they are supporting Cryptic.  I would condsider $200 if it had that value but all you get is that drow race (yes race since you get a whole new racial ability which consitutes being a different race), panther companion (again with the Twarpzit marketing), and a armored spider mount that I can care less for all of these.  The rest are minor things that will be common commodaties in the cash shop.  Even then they should have went with $90 or $120.  GW2 you had a lot of fan  merchandise like the Grimlock statuetes, pet, artbook, OST.... now THAT is a collectors edition and not this Closed Beta sales pitch crap.

Originally posted by Razeekster
That $200 dollars for a free to play game's foundary pack is a bit expensive? I could understand if that included a lifetime subscription, but this is going to be free to play. I think $100 would be more of a reasonable price, but maybe I'm just crazy or something and this is normal.

Originally posted by TheCrow2k

Originally posted by Razeekster
That $200 dollars for a free to play game's foundary pack is a bit expensive? I could understand if that included a lifetime subscription, but this is going to be free to play. I think $100 would be more of a reasonable price, but maybe I'm just crazy or something and this is normal.

 

Even $100 for what is on offer is excessive. The base pack is garbage. I will wait for free launch as I am sure most will.

Yeah, I'm a bit mistified with free to play titles trying to cash in on overly expensive foundary packages for people to get into betas. It's starting to turn into something normal which I consider bad.

Nope only complainers and crybabies think so.  For some of us this is a perfect opportunity to support Cryptic with the funds for an awesome MMO. 

Now if the price was mandatory you would have a complaint but this founders pack is for those who want the items and the guarenteed beta invites.  Nothing wrong at all because the company is providing the things players want and not what they need.