Originally posted by CeTheGreat
Ok let me rephrase. Your moic moved from a back line into a pocket, and the only thing stopping it from being a pocket was a one town link. Better for you to undrrstand?

I didn't realize this was an axis only bitch fest, my bad.

I'm not an armor god, hell my stats prove it. But I am a cheer leader. I boost morale, or try. Unlike the axis side, we have positive members who want to havr fun and join columns. Your mad cause those columns own you. Haters gonna hate I guess.

Your exausting tbh. I don't know how you don't drive yourself crazy

Jsilec doesn't have to agree with what I say. Hes a squaddie and has his own views. Hes our CO and knows the game. Not sure why your bringing him into this, but w/e

What's your wwiiol name? I like to pride myself on being good at indentifying mystery forum posters

Interesting how from coming on here as half troll/half serious your ending up looking a bit silly

I think you'll find your the one who brought him into this (your a bit forgetful). He creates an account a day after you join and post replies to anyone who criticisises you. (The post is currently not edited so it'll be odvious if you change it).

"Jsilec shows proof and you have no reasonable answer? That's not suprising lulz"

My WW2Online name? I thought you said you knew it? Use your Clue detective skills and send me a PM of it. I will reply with 'lol' whatever name you put.

You may not talk to Xoom but you do owe CRS one. They gave you your beloved old account back and from what I heard CRS fast tracked you back into HC once you resubscribed (even though it would normally takes a minimun of 30 days for an account becoming active).

Your posts are becoming a bit of a joke, constant corrections, hypocrisy etc. Haven't you already got enough egg on your face?

Bad thing happened to other people = whining

Bad thing happened to ce = justified frustration

Originally posted by BodkinBarber

Originally posted by CeTheGreat
Ok let me rephrase. Your moic moved from a back line into a pocket, and the only thing stopping it from being a pocket was a one town link. Better for you to undrrstand?

I didn't realize this was an axis only bitch fest, my bad.

I'm not an armor god, hell my stats prove it. But I am a cheer leader. I boost morale, or try. Unlike the axis side, we have positive members who want to havr fun and join columns. Your mad cause those columns own you. Haters gonna hate I guess.

Your exausting tbh. I don't know how you don't drive yourself crazy

Jsilec doesn't have to agree with what I say. Hes a squaddie and has his own views. Hes our CO and knows the game. Not sure why your bringing him into this, but w/e

What's your wwiiol name? I like to pride myself on being good at indentifying mystery forum posters

Interesting how from coming on here as half troll/half serious your ending up looking a bit silly

 

I think you'll find your the one who brought him into this (your a bit forgetful). He creates an account a day after you join and post replies to anyone who criticisises you. (The post is currently not edited so it'll be odvious if you change it).

 

"Jsilec shows proof and you have no reasonable answer? That's not suprising lulz"

 

My WW2Online name? I thought you said you knew it? Use your Clue detective skills and send me a PM of it. I will reply with 'lol' whatever name you put.

 

You may not talk to Xoom but you do owe CRS one. They gave you your beloved old account back and from what I heard CRS fast tracked you back into HC once you resubscribed (even though it would normally takes a minimun of 30 days for an account becoming active).

 

Your posts are becoming a bit of a joke, constant corrections, hypocrisy etc. Haven't you already got enough egg on your face?

Bad thing happened to other people = whining

Bad thing happened to ce = justified frustration

so u gonna judge peoples intentions by join date here?ok bodkin lets look at YOU...join date right as the whole antwerp debacle happens which means you were sour over that and probably got banned or warned not to post in playskool....i heard a few names from the axis side who rage unsubbed and they all here except for 1...they used their game names in here not like some scared lil nerd hiding behind his keyboard.....we figured out who you are but karma always bites those in the arse that deserve it...i think i spelled karma wrong is there an l in that? 

Originally posted by BodkinBarber

Originally posted by CeTheGreat
Ok let me rephrase. Your moic moved from a back line into a pocket, and the only thing stopping it from being a pocket was a one town link. Better for you to undrrstand?

I didn't realize this was an axis only bitch fest, my bad.

I'm not an armor god, hell my stats prove it. But I am a cheer leader. I boost morale, or try. Unlike the axis side, we have positive members who want to havr fun and join columns. Your mad cause those columns own you. Haters gonna hate I guess.

Your exausting tbh. I don't know how you don't drive yourself crazy

Jsilec doesn't have to agree with what I say. Hes a squaddie and has his own views. Hes our CO and knows the game. Not sure why your bringing him into this, but w/e

What's your wwiiol name? I like to pride myself on being good at indentifying mystery forum posters

Interesting how from coming on here as half troll/half serious your ending up looking a bit silly

 

I think you'll find your the one who brought him into this (your a bit forgetful). He creates an account a day after you join and post replies to anyone who criticisises you. (The post is currently not edited so it'll be odvious if you change it).

 

"Jsilec shows proof and you have no reasonable answer? That's not suprising lulz"

 

My WW2Online name? I thought you said you knew it? Use your Clue detective skills and send me a PM of it. I will reply with 'lol' whatever name you put.

 

You may not talk to Xoom but you do owe CRS one. They gave you your beloved old account back and from what I heard CRS fast tracked you back into HC once you resubscribed (even though it would normally takes a minimun of 30 days for an account becoming active).

 

Your posts are becoming a bit of a joke, constant corrections, hypocrisy etc. Haven't you already got enough egg on your face?

Bad thing happened to other people = whining

Bad thing happened to ce = justified frustration

That makes no sence.

Im very transparent. Big difference between you and I is that im not affraid to be vocal using my wwiiol game name,you on the other hand sseem to be hiding behind this barber name because you know the second I or anyone else knows who you really are,your arguments and so called points will be voided like everyone else who bitches about nothing. So man up and tell us who you really are,or keep hiding like a girl behind your mysterious name. I know who you are,its just figuring out which one of the two you actually are. No matter what name I give you,your going to deny it because your hiding. I have 12 messages from guys asking who you are. I even have some in PS forums too. One message even says " Why is he trying to hide,or what is he hiding" My answer is simple, hes affraid that his comments and actions on this forum will roll over to wwiiol and he will feel like a complete fool,or hes banned from CRS forums and knows nobody cares about his opinion. Which is it? Am I warm? Or KGW wont approve of your postings? *wink*

You seem to know a lot about me. You seem to follow me a lot. Hell,you know mroe abuot me than I do. CRS did not fast track me. CRS Gave me back my CE name after 3 years of using another name. It took me 3 years to show CRS that I wasnt that douche from years ago. So because CRS gives me my old name back,I must be in thier pocket? C'mon dude grow up.

What egg on whos face? I dont have the luxury of sitting in front of a PC all day. I work for a living. I canot quote using the mobile forum,so i tried my best to sum up your mediocre arguments,which by the way are very typical of the wwiiol player your hiding from. Once again facts are absent and your arguments are as bad as other axis whiners.

Barber arguments= Pointless and going in circles

Originally posted by Stug
Hmmm..seems like jsilec has tried to give more evidence than people usually do around here, so hats of to jsilec. 

Shhhhh,seems compliments arent allowed here. Walk away slowly, I wont tell anyone i promise :D

What ce and jselic are ignoring is the fact that developer interventions to stop axis from winning another campaign, especially during lower-populated times, are perfectly in line with CRS' s stated priorities and governing philosophy.

Then there's the fact that the company has banned/deleted any discussion of the server resets at Aarschot or Antwerp. They should be able to stand behind and explain their administrative actions but instead they are trying to pretend that nothing happened.

The game has had server issues many times before that didn't prompt a mass exodus of players. The company cannot offer any decent explanation for what happened so they no longer discuss the topic. The few players here cannot offer a decent explanation so they've taken to berating other players for unsubscribing and leaving the game.

Wow, I'm enjoying this...

So much drama and interest for a game that is dead....

Go figure.... LOL

Thanks for the names Chris.

I'd come over for a map CE but I'm with an awesome squad.

FF is a really great group of guys.

For any outsiders or potential gamers following this, don't subscribe because the game sucks........

Good evening...

That this map was not to be won by Axis has been pretty much clear since at least Jan. 3rd, 2013. Find a Screenshot attached to this post taken on Jan. 3rd -

At that time, Allied forces had broken through to Neufchateau, amongst other towns S of Ciney - leaving a giant hole in the center around Flavion / Hastiere and with Pville behind it wide open - you will see from the screenshot attached that the allied flags around that area were placd as if some pre-OCS candidate was tooling around with the map for 24h (either that or AHC was told not to worry because "Axis won't go there..."). We had a thread in Axis secure about that hole as well, which is gone now like so many others, hence posting it here. Every OCS absolvent would have jumped at that opportunity immediately, breaking through and either cutting the allied advance off or forcing them to move back - people on Axis were asking non-stop for an AO on either Flav or Hastiere for 24h - no reply even from our HCs, instead headbanging against allied stacks in Neuf & Carnigan. You don't get even so much as a reply from ANY HC as to why you're not attacking there, we had a whole div to spare for that - you know that you're not SUPPOSED to go there because it would probably lead to the map not reaching T3 (The Mericans) - which would have been BAD from a business POV for CRS, also it would have embarrased the allied side once more, also "bad". Silence from HC is almost always a good indicator that something is not right, esp in a situation like this. From this moment on it was pretty clear that Axis is not supposed to win the Map.

There's the Aarschot SR, theres Gembloux turning up allied after a SR and theres finally, Antwerp, a 5h AO, which is when even the most thickheaded axis vet realized that it doesn't matter what we do, we just cant win this campaign because we're not SUPPOSED to. So they logged and some even unsubbed.

Add to that recent instances of CRS personell interfering with HC moves to get behind the allied advance, and i dont mean the softcapping, which might have had just a slim chance of working and all BS aside - Axis wont win this camp, we won't win the next either probably and even if we would get close to archieving anything which might put the allies in an embarrasing situation, something would come up - and if it's a "recommendation" to HC not to go there, after all "We're your Bosses and the players want this and that and not THAT so don't do it!"

Winning the map - spawning an opel, guarding an FB, respawning to recap that CP over and over again just to get the Flag to finally move in and move on to the next is the motivation for a lot of people - just for driving around, playing cops and robbers bangbang you're dead, everything else out there does that better - you're not allowed to to what moves that flag or might lead to moving it because it would put the other side into a bad position  - fine. Thats why ppl unsubbed, the motivation is gone and the whole reason for logging into the game hence...

It's fine if you're outplayed and all that, if you're losing because you were just bad - it's fine if our comms are bad on axis, our leaders are bad and thus our moves etc - All that is fine and dandy, we have to get better then and thats a challenge we can thrive on as long as we have all options and that includes the option to win - we don't have that, why are we even still here then...?

I know that CRS has told HC where it can and cannot attack in the past, but it was regarding attacking towns that didn't have flags in them(something I still disagree with). So they are now prohibiting the high commands from attacking any town as they see fit, even if those towns are occupied and would make for a normal battle?

ARS-GSC is there an explanation from OKW anywhere, or is the whole thing being hushed up and deleted(like everything else these days)?

And pittpete this isn't a bunch of meaningless drama. If CRS has taken it upon themselves to directly intervene in the campaign to pick and choose winners(instead of merely tweaking spawn lists and game mechanics like they've done before), then there really isn't a reason to play the game anymore.

It's a sign of desperation when someone has to resort to insults and questioning a persons intequity. Why do you want to know my game name so much? Are you really that interested about one single player (because that is what I am) or is it so you can attempt to slander me and make myself an example of for daring to point out that your arguments lacked foundation?

Players views of CRS when playing the game should be like people's attitutde towards politcal views. There's a time and a place for discussion and argument and there's also a time and a place for letting things go. Playskool forums are heavily moderated so people voice their views here but that doesn't mean you take it to the game world. Why would I want to play alongside players who I know are folking out big money for the game while I critisice the poor past development decisions by the devs? From what I see you only want to confirm my name so you can damage my future gaming experience. I'm happy with my relations with lots of players in game thank you and would expect better from someone who even bronco considers 'classy'.

I'll be fair, I shouldn't of reciprocated some of your not so great behaviour, was an interesting back and forth. However from that wall of text and your responses I have odviously triggered an emotional response but what have I actually done?

- Showed that you think axis should'nt be frustrated about Antwerp but if the same situation happened to yourself you would be frustrated

- Made a counter to your point that a server reset on a setup for Sittard or when there is a spawnable in Ciney is the same as a server reset on Antwerp when it has 3 CP's left

- Your argument for justifying CRS giving Antwerp back to the allies was purely based on what if's and maybe be's of what allies could of done (with a population that was underpop and would of had its morale shattered)

Anyone who wants to check what was said feel free to see the posts. (and thats not bringing up Jsilec's arguments and your reply to those as they are odviously coincidental)

Now you can continue on with your vendetta against myself because I'm sure lots of vocal people will support you, not neccessarily for what you've said but what they make you out to be. You came on these forums half serious, half troll and you've ended up being the one wound up.

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Following from what depot said if they really have nothing to hide about the resets why delete all threads about them?

David, didn't mean for it to sound like that. Poor choice of wording by me.

I was trying to say that for a game thats dead, theres so much discussion,anger,excitement,focus &attention towards it.

If DOC/CRS purposely reset the server to save Antwerp, than they aren't very smart.

I guess anything is possible, but it just seems like committing game suicide.

I mean the game is where it's at now because of decisions CRS have made in the past.

One thing I'm certain of is that the server will be reset and a new Campaign will start again.

CRS has now changed their daily resets to a certain time, like a lot of us suggested in the past.

That is the good thing we get out of this whole mess.

I've pretty much been diehard Axis my whole time here & only changed sides to help balance out the sides in hopes of helping the game.

Game existance comes first, then the Axis side.

What I'm trying to reiterate constantly is yes the game  is slowly dying and yes it has a multitude of problems.

If all was fine and dandy I wouldn't be here in these forums day after day.

I don't get anything out of it except the chance to keep playing.

There is no game out there where you can follow a map that is constantly changing, has players from around the world able to play on one server and is based on the WWII timeline.

If i don't know about it, can you please tell me what game and I would honestly like to try it.

We placed on article on the main with a routine schedule that will be followed as long as conditions permit. That means if the server is acting up during an un-scheduled time we will still have to make an adjustment. DOC has personally been following this program religiously.

But it should be noted, that anytime there's a need for a server reset during combat operations, it can (or will) be frustrating (for you and us). But it's a necessity to keep the server as smooth as possible and we're being more transparent on expectations.

Though many of you have your grievances against DOC for various reasonings, he continues to be a vital component behind the scenes ensuring WWII Online's best possible operational status, and puts in a great deal of personal time to see to it.

Originally posted by Jsilec
Gsc u totally disregard the fact that the axis did in fact have a breakthrough 2 days after january 3rd...axis brokethrough at sedan and attempted to cutoff our southern divisions only to get cut off themselves in charleyville.....if there was some power over okw then how would they allow a sedan cut which has awlays been horrible for morale....end result of the sedan cut was bar and members from my squad cutting the axis off at charleyville....more conspiracies anyone?

The flag situation was as embarrassing on Jan 5th for allies as it was in the SS provided then? No...

Was it as bad as on the day we had Aarschot bunk capped 47% when everything was put to a halt, threatening 3 allied divs w a cut-off? No...

Was it as bad as on the day Ant was almost capped, nothing behind it? No...

Cville and the flags N as well as W of it AND S were in good positions and Cville was the chokepoint, hence no need to interfere...

Originally posted by Jsilec
should i say the 10 axis map wins in a row were pity maps because 75% of ahc quit after a certain cinc was removed?.....no of ourse not and the axis earned their wins just like WE earned our win if we manage to finish it up....belittling the hard work players put in on the allied side because of unsubbers on the axis side is like us complaining about an axis win because a bunch of quitters folded up their tents after we lost brussels or antwerp....comprende?

So if those were pity maps, explain the first 2 years?   Were they pity maps to when the Axis won over 75% of the campaigns? 

I remember that CinC removal, that was one of the biggest mistakes CRS made.   Honestly developers should stay out of the player run community.   If they only dealt with complaints by the community, like inactivity or abuse then the game would be fine.  

I would be HC if I hadnt disliked CRS meddling in HC activities and basically trying to run the game.   

The game ran fine when Squads were in charge and before UMS were put in.