Trending Games | Guild Wars 2 | Firefall | H1Z1 | City of Heroes

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,852,150 Users Online:0
Games:733  Posts:6,226,945
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Path of Exile

Path of Exile 

General Discussion  » Diablo clone

8 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 » Last Search
144 posts found
  User Deleted
1/31/13 3:04:26 PM#41
Originally posted by Razperil
Originally posted by Crunchy222
Originally posted by aleos

i dont see any double standard. i see a game filling a space that was left empty.

 

all anyone ever wanted was Diablo 2 in HD, at least thats all i wanted.. not a carebear overhaul to appease a greater audiance. So unlike this new diablo. Path of Exile actually allows me to allocate skill points. it doesnt do it for me. And the ability to use ANY power i flippin want by meeting basic requirements and an open slot on my weapons or armor that i can remove and replace at any time with no charge or hassel. sign me up.

have you even seen that skill tree? its glorious..

 

Did i mention its free.

More people play D3 than POE.

Some people care more about entertaining combat mechanics than graphical looks, in fact i would argue more do.

Your trading entertaining combat for graphics with POE...oh and its not blizzard, some people thats the largest factor in them enjoying a game apparently.

 

But yes, the game is kind of a D2 ripoff...however you really can make the argument that a 12 year old game has better combat.  Also itemization was far better in D2.  If D3 hadnt pissed off a minority of the D2 crowd POE wouldnt even be on the radar.  The fans are grossly inflating the games greatness.

Before long, more people will be playing Path of Exile. If you don't think so, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I would suggest that you stay in the water-down game that is D3. Afterall, you sound like another disgruntled Blizzard fan that can never stand it when any game does something better or has more merit than Blizzard games these days. (They did it to themselves with their greed. I don't feel sorry or bad for them. It will happen to any company that follows that same path).

Here's to the companies that are passionate about games and about those that play them. :) Let's hope that this is a new marker for how companies become. (possibly wishful thinking, it does not hurt nonetheless).

Thanks for the suggestion but im fine making my own choices, i still play both.  They are both games that need a hell of a lot of improvement.

 

D3 has action and combat thats far more fun, surprisngly more viable builds than POE with drastic gameplay variety. Also multiplayer is lightyears ahead of POE.

 

POE has more realistic graphics with nice lighting, a skill web thats very interesting your first play though, and a more hands on crafting system.

 

Im just being realistic here though...i know the POE fanclub is deeply invested in the game and quite defensive however.

 

Call me a disgruntled blizzard fan because i play both D3 and POE if that makes you feel better...however..with POE being free, and all of its issues front and center without the heavy handed diamond supporter forums mods deleting all negative threads, its only going to take a short amount of time to cut through the overhype in this one.

Granted i hope GGG comes through with combat support, a physics engine, fixes their launch related issues, and redoes their active skill system while making the passive tree more than boring stat boosts.... I also hope blizzard fixes the bland endgame they have adds more content, and adds more itemization depth.  Both will be fun.

I think POE has a lot further to go to be really solid, but then i dont play one game and support it because i hate another similair game...like so many of the POE fanclub...a community thats bitterly obsessed with D3 and cant stop talking about it.

Oh and they are going to have to start beefing up their cash shop further if they intend to take the game to the next level...they have far too many free players eating bandwith right now.

  Deivos

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/14/04
Posts: 1703

Iarð skal rifna, ok upphiminn.

1/31/13 3:06:58 PM#42
Originally posted by Crunchy222

More people play D3 than POE.

Some people care more about entertaining combat mechanics than graphical looks, in fact i would argue more do.

Your trading entertaining combat for graphics with POE...oh and its not blizzard, some people thats the largest factor in them enjoying a game apparently.

 

But yes, the game is kind of a D2 ripoff...however you really can make the argument that a 12 year old game has better combat.  Also itemization was far better in D2.  If D3 hadnt pissed off a minority of the D2 crowd POE wouldnt even be on the radar.  The fans are grossly inflating the games greatness.

Just wanted to point out that this isn't correct, unless it's being stated only as an opinion. 

 

As part of what most people are chiming in on is the gameplay in Path of Exile, not just it's graphics. Cherry picking the one post that mentions grahics in particular and then attacking that as if it's the only point is generally fallacious and does not benefit a conversation.

 

Especially given your last couple sentences are squarely pegging another kind of playerbase in a negative manner. It essentially just acumulates in meaning your post was flaming other users without merit.

 

Feel free to say you don't enjoy it's gameplay. Feel free to say you think the game might be getting overhyped. But don't bait with insults.

 

EDIT: For example the fact you say D3 has 'suprisingly more viable builds' which is a curious statement on it's own given how the active skills in PoE are divided from the class and open t use on all characters, where their passive tree lets them tailor their stats to eventually encompass any given play style.

 

Additionally on point is the simplifications you speak of in regards to PoE that don't mesh with reality. Like your remark that the passive tree is just stat boosts.

 

It would be considerably better of you to say what you actually mean and simply note you prefer Diablo 3's gameplay.

Technical accuracy is generally better than painting opinion as if they were facts.

As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero. - Vaarsuvius

  Scorchien

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/12/06
Posts: 1087

1/31/13 3:07:32 PM#43
  IMO POE is light years ahead of any of the Diablo seires its not even close in anyway...
  User Deleted
1/31/13 3:08:01 PM#44
The skill tree makes me want to go play Final Fantasy X again.
  Entropy14

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/14/10
Posts: 660

1/31/13 3:09:50 PM#45
Diffrence is WOW has been cloned 9058439054389054385904358439058 times.
  phoenix_genma_ken

Novice Member

Joined: 12/01/12
Posts: 33

1/31/13 3:12:15 PM#46
Originally posted by baphamet

not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

 

 

clone or not

rip off or not all i know is that D3 compared to path of exile is a big POS

 

path of exile baby all the way

  User Deleted
1/31/13 3:16:00 PM#47
Originally posted by Deivos
Originally posted by Crunchy222

More people play D3 than POE.

Some people care more about entertaining combat mechanics than graphical looks, in fact i would argue more do.

Your trading entertaining combat for graphics with POE...oh and its not blizzard, some people thats the largest factor in them enjoying a game apparently.

 

But yes, the game is kind of a D2 ripoff...however you really can make the argument that a 12 year old game has better combat.  Also itemization was far better in D2.  If D3 hadnt pissed off a minority of the D2 crowd POE wouldnt even be on the radar.  The fans are grossly inflating the games greatness.

Just wanted to point out that this isn't correct, unless it's being stated only as an opinion. 

 

As part of what most people are chiming in on is the gameplay in Path of Exile, not just it's graphics. Cherry picking the one post that mentions grahics in particular and then attacking that as if it's the only point is generally fallacious and does not benefit a conversation.

 

Especially given your last couple sentences are squarely pegging another kind of playerbase in a negative manner. It essentially just acumulates in meaning your post was flaming other users without merit.

 

Feel free to say you don't enjoy it's gameplay. Feel free to say you think the game might be getting overhyped. But don't bait with insults.

Yeah forgive me, the POE community in game and on the official forums is wearing on me.  Its becomming harder and harder to want to support the game given what i see in game, and the fact i have to keep global chat shut down due to the community.

But my point is, a lot of people are overhyping the game while being 100% blind to the many aspects of POE that are below acceptable.  I mean combat mechanics, active skills, and desync are beyond major issues with an ARPG...yet any mention of that bring forth attacks on those who mention them.  Really the best part of POE is the look and the fact that it caters squarely to disgruntled D2 purests.

Im sorry if thats not what you want to hear, figured a 3rd party forum would be far better explaining this than the official forums with is heavy handed player mods and in game with the constant attacks.

I think GGG really needs to address these issues before they move forward with the game, however, i wouldnt be surprised if they were clueless to the issues given the communities tendancy to censor and attack suggestions.

 

  Wraithone

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3566

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

1/31/13 3:25:07 PM#48

So what if its a clone? Its an entertaining game.  Its also a worthy successor to D2, unlike D3.  If Blizzard hadn't managed to annoy a good part of their own playerbase, I doubt it would have attracted so much attention.

As for WoW, for all its faults (which are legion...) its still a good game up to level cap.  Blizzard would hardly have made *billions* from it, if many millions of people didn't think it worthy of their money for years and years.

I've played some of the WoW clones. Some I enjoyed quite abit. Others not so much.

  rbialo

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/24/05
Posts: 30

1/31/13 4:07:20 PM#49


Originally posted by Crunchy222 Yeah forgive me, the POE community in game and on the official forums is wearing on me.  Its becomming harder and harder to want to support the game given what i see in game, and the fact i have to keep global chat shut down due to the community. But my point is, a lot of people are overhyping the game while being 100% blind to the many aspects of POE that are below acceptable.  I mean combat mechanics, active skills, and desync are beyond major issues with an ARPG...yet any mention of that bring forth attacks on those who mention them.  Really the best part of POE is the look and the fact that it caters squarely to disgruntled D2 purests. Im sorry if thats not what you want to hear, figured a 3rd party forum would be far better explaining this than the official forums with is heavy handed player mods and in game with the constant attacks. I think GGG really needs to address these issues before they move forward with the game, however, i wouldnt be surprised if they were clueless to the issues given the communities tendancy to censor and attack suggestions.  
 

Frankly, I do not get it.

I mean ok, desync and DC are important issues they need to address asap. Thats out of questions.

But when you (or others) start talking about combat mechanics, graphic, skill gems, passive tree, etc. you are talking about your personal preferences. And what you see as faulty or boring others may find acceptable and interesting.

You say suggestions are attacked.
My bet is that in most cases they are not real suggestions but rather nonconstructive posts that some part of game A is different then in game B or in imagination of poster, and only for that reason it has to be changed.
Sorry, but thats not a suggestion - thats just whining, by someone who fails to understand that each game can have its own flavors. Making "suggestions" that are aimed to change the very core of what makes a game different is not what should be encouraged (in fact thats something that kills innovation in games making them clones of some major title).

As far as I see it, one does not have to like each game on the market.
Either you like something and then make a suggestion that build on and expand on that idea. Or if you do not like something, be a man and move over to other game.

  the420kid

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/19/05
Posts: 417

1/31/13 4:14:15 PM#50

theres nothing wrong with cloning a great game, especialy if you can do it well with fresh content for players to consume.  D2 was an amazing game and d3 is not a clone of d2 they tried to do there own new thing, d3 is a great game but its very shallow of content I still got tons of time out of it dont regret the cost of the game but I quit after about a month and a half of d3 because of content. 

D2 held me for years and I can understand why POE would want to be the new d2 but honestly POE is a cluncky, buggy, low budget version of d2 and I for 1 am not enjoying it.  For me combat and the smoothness of the engine are number 1 factors for enjoying a game and POE falls pretty flat in combat imo but I wish all you POE fans the best of luck...

  jpnole

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/13/10
Posts: 1651

1/31/13 5:51:10 PM#51
Originally posted by baphamet

not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

 

 

Because WoW doesn't have the universal praise that the D1/D2LoD franchise does. The pre D3 Diablo franchise is universally associated with positive gaming experiences. D1/D2 are the holy grail of ARPGs. WoW, meanwhile, is an EQ clone and despite being mostly liked, does not carry the universal praise that is always heaped upon D1 & D2.

  davc123

Novice Member

Joined: 6/26/11
Posts: 364

1/31/13 5:54:12 PM#52

poe is great game better then d3

 

  baphamet

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2639

110100100

 
OP  1/31/13 11:58:05 PM#53


Originally posted by davc123
poe is great game better then d3

 


i never said it was a bad game, i am actually liking it so far.

  Mookzen

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/20/12
Posts: 11

2/01/13 12:02:57 AM#54
It gets praise because its an improved version of what came before, thats progress and thats good.
  EncoreFIN

Novice Member

Joined: 2/05/11
Posts: 18

2/01/13 12:03:17 AM#55

"Diablo clone" is only a compliment to any ARPG. I mean Diablo2 ofc. Its an awesome standard which wont be passed any time soon or EVER.

I play Path of Exile myself and it indeed is good. Too bad it isnt a finished product but it truly is the Diablo 3 we really wanted.

Catch you on the planetside!

  baphamet

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2639

110100100

 
OP  2/01/13 12:05:37 AM#56


Originally posted by jpnole

Originally posted by baphamet not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise? not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off. from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more) its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo. whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money? i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.    
Because WoW doesn't have the universal praise that the D1/D2LoD franchise does. The pre D3 Diablo franchise is universally associated with positive gaming experiences. D1/D2 are the holy grail of ARPGs. WoW, meanwhile, is an EQ clone and despite being mostly liked, does not carry the universal praise that is always heaped upon D1 & D2.

what about when teso gets called a GW2 clone? or when all sorts of games used to be called D2 clones like dungeon siege?

i realize all games are clones of another game with added original features unique to that game.

i also have no problem playing any "clone" as long as i am having fun and like the game.

i am just saying that its odd every other newer game gets hated on for being a clone except this one apparently (and all sandbox games of course).


  stefanakisgr

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 38

2/01/13 4:54:51 AM#57
Originally posted by baphamet

not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off.

from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more)

its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo.

whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money?

i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.

 

 

Whatever you say or do , or how much you analyze , it all comes down to one thing . Is it fun to play ? PoE is fun , I like its depth and complexity , its atmosphere , its darkness , its inovation . They took some risks , took some new paths , and it payed off . Diablo started it all , yes , I do agree . But I also dont care . Because its fun :D

And wow is not original , its an EQ clone . Now thats odd , calling everything a wow clone , when wow is a clone :P My point is its a matter of success in the end . EQ and UO started it all , but only mmo oldtimers like meself know that , most people think of wow as the father . And it is as much talent and timing , as it is about standing on the shoulders of giants . Like EQ , or Diablo :D

  baphamet

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/05/06
Posts: 2639

110100100

 
OP  2/01/13 10:31:35 AM#58


Originally posted by stefanakisgr

Originally posted by baphamet not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise? not only is this game a diablo clone, some of it is a direct rip off. from character selection to the inventory panel to the UI (and this is just from playing the game for 10 minutes, there is probably much more) its actually pretty funny how blatantly they ripped off diablo. whatever happened to these indie companies being more creative? isn't that why so many of you support them? or is it just because you hate the big companies like blizzard that make tons of money? i am not trying to post flame bait, but the double standard just seems odd to me.    
Whatever you say or do , or how much you analyze , it all comes down to one thing . Is it fun to play ? PoE is fun , I like its depth and complexity , its atmosphere , its darkness , its inovation . They took some risks , took some new paths , and it payed off . Diablo started it all , yes , I do agree . But I also dont care . Because its fun :D

And wow is not original , its an EQ clone . Now thats odd , calling everything a wow clone , when wow is a clone :P My point is its a matter of success in the end . EQ and UO started it all , but only mmo oldtimers like meself know that , most people think of wow as the father . And it is as much talent and timing , as it is about standing on the shoulders of giants . Like EQ , or Diablo :D


i actually played diablo, diablo 2, and EQ for many years :)

if you remember, wow got hated on for ripping off Daoc and EQ (and other games as well) when it first came out, were those bad games at the time?

games like dungeon siege were labeled diablo clones and frowned upon by many at the time as well.

i see people complain about companies being original and that's why they don't like wow like games.

yet with this game and other sandbox games they are never mentioned as clones or frowned upon for being a clone, even though they are all clones of something.

its a double standard.

that said, i can see why people like this game as i am one of them so far lol

then again, i am not one of those that refuses to play a game that is a clone of another.


  atticusbc

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/22/07
Posts: 1066

I hated hipsters before hating hipsters was cool.

2/01/13 10:37:14 AM#59
Originally posted by baphamet

not saying this is a bad game but why is it that if a game is labeled a "wow clone" its automatically hated on but this game being a diablo clone gets praise?

the thing is "WoW clone" isn't a complaint because it's a ripoff. it's a complaint because a lot of people don't like WoW. diablo 1+2 are awesome though. therefore if someone rips it off and slaps on nicer graphics, it's a win.

  LuciferIAm

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/25/10
Posts: 97

2/01/13 10:40:42 AM#60
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by Shodanas
Can you please elaborate on how PoE "...blatantly ripped off dablo."? The UI? Because the health / mana orbs are located left and right? And sure, character selection and the inventory panel define wether a game is good or bad. Are you for real? Why don't you tell us about the things who actually matter like the skill sysytem. Or the excellent active / support gem system which provides ground for tons of experimentation. Or the innovative barter system in place of the old currency one.

 

Remove your fanboy glasses and then you'll see that the F2P PoE puts the 60 euro DIII to shame.


 

the inventory pannel looks exactly the same, character selection looks exactly the same, the combat? so far its exactly the same.

fanboy glasses you say? umm i hate to break it you ya but i haven't played D3 in months and will not play it ever again until it has pvp and even then i may not.

its more likely that i will be playing this game actually lol

maybe you should take your "fanboy glasses" off and realize that this game is in fact a direct rip off from diablo.

like i said originally, i don't think its a bad game as i have not played it enough to make a judgment like that.

but just from playing it 10 minutes i can see that they haven't just made a game similar to diablo, they directly ripped it off.

which is not necessarily a bad thing but it damn sure isn't an indie game company being creative, which is why so many of you claim to like indie games.

it is indeed a double standard.

Lol, way to prove you havent played much of it, the first 2 are a given for any ARPG really.. why would you change something like that? The combat however... DRAMATICALLY more complex and different, Fail bro, fail.

8 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 » Last Search