No specific mention of SWTOR in EA's results - haven't seen the transcript of the conference call which may add a little. However in the slide presentation the SWTOR graphic was shown in the subscription category and not as a F2P.

Battlefield 3 with 2.9M subs seems to be doing OK though - weren't sub based games dead ......

Oh well if only for those pesky stock options EA would have made more ....

SWTOR was just a farse in their analysis.  What EA really wan't to sell to investors is that people who use their "F2P" freemium gamegram style equates to more customers.  Which, if they didn't say is true, isn't true.

Smoke and mirrors are what this investor call is all about.  Smoke and mirrors.

I think it's amusing that investors believe whatever they are told. 

people pay to play bf3?

Well, investors don't necessarily know what they are investing in.They just invest by sheer numbers.

They job of people creating those calls is to make numbers looking good. By all means. And judging on how investors fall for it so often they are very, very good at their job. ;)

I don't think investors care that much about TOR anymore. It's not like it'll become extremely successful all of a sudden. It's probably not draining EA's budget much anymore, so they can focus on their successful titles and put failures aside.

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

My understanding of this was that the 189 million wasn't revenue for boxes sold of the games (or discs for the consoles) but only for the dlc concent of the 3 games.  But that seems like a pretty damn large number for dlc for 3 games.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

I remember it.  EA lumped their top games along with SWTOR and called it a success. 3 months ago.

And EA called it a success today too, while lumping SWTOR with other games (FIFA + Madden).. There isn't anything joyful about that.  Telling every investor that SWTOR brought $185 million, when combined with 2 other top EA games, FIFA and Ultimate Madden .. that is a COMPLETE SHAM!

Why can't EA just report SWTOR as it's performing (??).  No, EA has to hide SWTOR's failures, and include SWTOR with FIFA / Madden then combine the 3 and say it's a success.

WTF.

The EA investor call was a big laugh .. because those who invest have no idea how or what their money in being spent on.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

I remember it.  EA lumped their top games along with SWTOR and called it a success. 3 months ago.

 

And EA called it a success today too, while lumping it with other games. There isn't anything joyful about that.  Telling every investor that SWTOR brought $185 million, when combined with 2 other top EA games.

How many paid  extra content for Madden and FIFA were released in last 3 months? because 185 millions contribute just to extra content and F2P  - it is not cost of the purchasing these games.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

I remember it.  EA lumped their top games along with SWTOR and called it a success. 3 months ago.

 

And EA called it a success today too, while lumping it with other games. There isn't anything joyful about that.  Telling every investor that SWTOR brought $185 million, when combined with 2 other top EA games.

How many paid  extra content for Madden and FIFA were released in last 3 months? because 185 millions contribute just to extra content and F2P  - it is not cost of the purchasing these games.

Something to think about, when pondering how SWTOR compares to other games.  EA numbers look big, but SWTOR numbers are small.  EA isn't justified with their quarterly statement.  They simply aren't, put it that way.

Originally posted by gervaise1

No specific mention of SWTOR in EA's results - haven't seen the transcript of the conference call which may add a little. However in the slide presentation the SWTOR graphic was shown in the subscription category and not as a F2P.

Battlefield 3 with 2.9M subs seems to be doing OK though - weren't sub based games dead ......

Oh well if only for those pesky stock options EA would have made more ....

/shrug... subs equal just over half of the total playerbase of MMORPGs in the West, and over 80% of the *paying* playerbase.

The only people saying they are 'dead' are industry shills and the kool aid drinkers that parrot them because they are too cheap to pay into the hobby they (presumbly) enjoy.

All in all not a bad day for EA. FiFA sales were extremely strong 12 million this quarter after a opening week of 5 million or so in the previous quarter. Battlefield 3 remains strong at 2.9 million subs (very inexpensive subs thou). Star Wars was broken out into both the sub number as well as the extra content number.  The statements and size of those two numbers is encouraging.  

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

I remember it.  EA lumped their top games along with SWTOR and called it a success. 3 months ago.

 

And EA called it a success today too, while lumping it with other games. There isn't anything joyful about that.  Telling every investor that SWTOR brought $185 million, when combined with 2 other top EA games.

How many paid  extra content for Madden and FIFA were released in last 3 months? because 185 millions contribute just to extra content and F2P  - it is not cost of the purchasing these games.

That is good news for FIFA then. It was released over 4 months ago and stlll 2nd in the UK All formats chart, and that is at full price not DLC

http://www.shopto.net/news/41777/Latest-Charts-we-Jan-27-

Originally posted by FromHell

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

[mod edit]

[mod edit]

Except when it's out of context.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

I remember it.  EA lumped their top games along with SWTOR and called it a success. 3 months ago.

 

And EA called it a success today too, while lumping it with other games. There isn't anything joyful about that.  Telling every investor that SWTOR brought $185 million, when combined with 2 other top EA games.

How many paid  extra content for Madden and FIFA were released in last 3 months? because 185 millions contribute just to extra content and F2P  - it is not cost of the purchasing these games.

That is good news for FIFA then. It was released over 4 months ago and stlll 2nd in the UK All formats chart, and that is at full price not DLC

http://www.shopto.net/news/41777/Latest-Charts-we-Jan-27-

That means it's not included in this amount as this is exclusively for extra content and F2P :) Not sell of game

I had a blast playing SWTOR, right up until I lost all access to my account when the F2P conversion hit.  Completely locked out as if my account never existed.  Went to customer service for account recovery and the info they gave me was the same as I already had, still didn't work.  They said they had no reason as to why I couldn't access my account.  I asked them to just cancel my account and they told me I would have to do that via my account page...that I couldn't access.  Had to stop payment in order to get the account cancelled.

sorry for completely off topic rant

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Comment from EA CFO Blake Jorgensen.

Extra content and free-to-play contributed $185 million, up 50% led by FIFA and Madden
Ultimate Team and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These revenues relate to businesses on
PC or consoles, where consumers pay for additional digital content -- including virtual
characters, map packs and micro-transactions associated with browser based games or
MMO’s – like Star Wars. As a reminder, on November 15th we launched our free-to-play
option for Star Wars: The Old Republic. Very early indications have been positive and we
are pleased with the initial results but it is too early to know how successful this will be in the
long term.

 

Subscriptions, advertising, and other digital revenue contributed $79 million, growing 18%
over the same period last year. The current year includes a full quarter of Star Wars
subscriptions, but it was offset by a decline in other licensing digital revenue.

Now why are you bringing positive news in what is clearly another TOR bashing thread? What's wrong with you ? ;)

 

I want to hear more about investors from those whose biggest investment was a video game. 

It's uplifting, that's why.  EA isn't in the doghouse yet ... oh snap nevermind.

 

Although, they need 500k subscribers to break even .. or 7.5 million (90+ million per year).

 

 

EA fell short.  They had to lump all their successful games together once again. $185 million for FIFA, Ultimate Madden, and SWTOR.

 

EA lumped SWTOR with the success of other games in previous quarters too.  SWTOR isn't making money if they have to do that.  FIFA had a big backlash in 2012 (invisible players, cashshop issues).  BBC Videos if requested, but there were a lot of complaints from EA customers last year.

 

 

 

 

LOL remember last reporting? They did not mention SWTOR at all. In this one they mention it several times in a positive way. For me, it's a positive sign... but as my profile motto says... you won't convince anybody otherwise who does not want to believe it.

I remember it.  EA lumped their top games along with SWTOR and called it a success. 3 months ago.

 

And EA called it a success today too, while lumping it with other games. There isn't anything joyful about that.  Telling every investor that SWTOR brought $185 million, when combined with 2 other top EA games.

How many paid  extra content for Madden and FIFA were released in last 3 months? because 185 millions contribute just to extra content and F2P  - it is not cost of the purchasing these games.

That is good news for FIFA then. It was released over 4 months ago and stlll 2nd in the UK All formats chart, and that is at full price not DLC

http://www.shopto.net/news/41777/Latest-Charts-we-Jan-27-

That means it's not included in this amount as this is exclusively for extra content and F2P :) Not sell of game

I just wanted to jump on the copy and paste bandwagon and be like the cool kids