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Age of Wushu 

General Discussion  » And Wushu isn't P2Win?

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  Betaguy

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1/30/13 9:50:13 AM#21
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

Yeah i stopped playing the day after open beta started bcause i seen how pay to win it was in the item mall, if you have the silver you can max out one of your internal skills in the matter of  hours.

 

Game is a joke.

 My thoughts exactly.

  Zeek1986

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1/30/13 10:06:14 AM#22
Dont normally get invloved with the fourm drama but this can only be called a P2W if the cash shop items are not obtaniable in game. that being mentioned, most games that come from Asain market are very very successful with retarded cash shop percs.AkA Conquer Online.. That being said, none of the items in game are bound there for you can sell or trade everything. so to be succesful in a cash shop market or in your eyes a P2W game. you drop a few bucks to get your self started out then farm or grind "this is an asian game after all" then sell off everything you find.Hence now this "P2W" game has now just fed your family. Dont look at it like you need to waste all your hard earned money to be good at this game. But as a way to "MAKE MONEY PLAYING THE DAMN GAME". If that asshat spent 10k on shit then you work at being the dude that recived the most of his money.
  Sal1

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1/30/13 10:20:20 AM#23
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

Yeah i stopped playing the day after open beta started bcause i seen how pay to win it was in the item mall, if you have the silver you can max out one of your internal skills in the matter of  hours.

 

Game is a joke.

+1 I had the same experience but I still have the game installed just to prove wrong the fanboys I will play till after tutorial quest line and make a thread with screenshot and videos cause apparently they don't understand with words.

I have had fun playing this game. You have not. Who is right? We both are. Your upcoming post with screenshots and video's isn't going to change my mind about my experience of Age of Wushu. But feel free to do so.

  User Deleted
1/30/13 10:24:03 AM#24
Originally posted by Sal1
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

Yeah i stopped playing the day after open beta started bcause i seen how pay to win it was in the item mall, if you have the silver you can max out one of your internal skills in the matter of  hours.

 

Game is a joke.

+1 I had the same experience but I still have the game installed just to prove wrong the fanboys I will play till after tutorial quest line and make a thread with screenshot and videos cause apparently they don't understand with words.

I have had fun playing this game. You have not. Who is right? We both are. Your upcoming post with screenshots and video's isn't going to change my mind about my experience of Age of Wushu. But feel free to do so.

Not trying to change anyone's mind but I will provide prove for the ones that keep saying that age of wushu is sandbox and its not pay2win.

  park97

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1/30/13 10:30:24 AM#25
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
Originally posted by Sal1
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

Yeah i stopped playing the day after open beta started bcause i seen how pay to win it was in the item mall, if you have the silver you can max out one of your internal skills in the matter of  hours.

 

Game is a joke.

+1 I had the same experience but I still have the game installed just to prove wrong the fanboys I will play till after tutorial quest line and make a thread with screenshot and videos cause apparently they don't understand with words.

I have had fun playing this game. You have not. Who is right? We both are. Your upcoming post with screenshots and video's isn't going to change my mind about my experience of Age of Wushu. But feel free to do so.

Not trying to change anyone's mind but I will provide prove for the ones that keep saying that age of wushu is sandbox and its not pay2win.

You bashed the game, you made your point(valid or not), can you just move on to the game you enjoy?  Who cares if its real sandbox or not, as long as game is fun.

  User Deleted
1/30/13 10:35:28 AM#26
I tried the game cause of miss leading information so I'm trying to clarify and give the right info. Some fanboys were spreading wrong rumors that's all.
  iamthekiller

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1/30/13 10:37:49 AM#27

So I installed and played for an hour last night...It's interesting but rather hard to enjoy thanks to alot of missing icons and untranslated things. I did notice that you can certainly advance your power way way faster by using the cash shop, I guess like the other guy that posted...I just don't care about the cash shop..if I like the game I am gonna play it..if I get killed b/c someone dropped a few hundred on the cash shop well good for them...hope it was worth it lol.

 

I would like to know if the missing icons are normal or just me?

 

EDIT - I would also add that the actual download and install process was a royal pain..first I dled the zip file and it wouldn't unzip...saying it was corrupted...after that I dled each file seperately and ran the install..it gave me an error and said to run the reapir function on the launcher...install contiuned and I did as it said..was greeted with a message that said "That function is not available at this time." Nevertheless the game launched and ran..I have to say I was almost turned off from the game just because of the really annoying install.

  TsaboHavoc

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1/30/13 10:38:20 AM#28
as much as i like the game i have to recognize that if u spend money on cash shop(unbound silver) u have a HUGE chance to win.  the publisher is a shitty company. its a jewel in the hands of devil. also F2P kills it.
  botrytis

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1/30/13 10:38:33 AM#29
Originally posted by Biskop
It's new, it's Asian, and it's more innovative than all recent Western games.

Of course people will hate it.

But most of the people bashing it just spread ill-informed bs and blatant misinformation ("it's ptw", "it's a Korean grinder", "combat sucks" etc), which is easily proven wrong by a simple fact check.

People trying to bash the actual features have a much harder time since that requires them to actually play and understand the game. And most people that make it past the tutorial seem to appreciate Wushu's uniqueness, even if they don't find it fun.

If people are spending cash like that on a game and people don't like it then it is not hate.

 

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  rojoArcueid

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1/30/13 10:46:38 AM#30
Originally posted by ragz45

Was in Team Practice yesterday with the Guild leader of Goontang (goonsquad's wushu arm).  The multi gaming community of goonsquad is well known for it's less than ethical tactics in games, and I won't get into that here.  But while in the TP with him, a few of us got into the discussion of his guild and the fact that they were until recently very un-equiped and kind of newbish, yet were starting a lot of crap and making a lot of enemies.

He responded by telling us that a member of goontang, who happened to be an investment banker, droped 10K real life dollars on the game.  Converted that into unbound silver, and is using it to gear GoonTang to the tits & powerlevel thier divination.  I had wondered how the members of Goon had gone from wearing all wood gear to maxed out Silver gear in a matter of two days, and this definitly answers that question.

How is this not P2WIn?  It seems to be the pure definition of P2Win in my opinion.

 

 

 

P.S. he also said that the same member is considering buying one of the epic weapon skins for 9grand if they ever release them in the USA.

and you happen to believe whatever some randome internet dude tells you....

and just in case, you could have recorded the conversation and made it public on the game's forum for investigation. 

  DamonVile

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1/30/13 10:54:44 AM#31
Originally posted by muthax
Originally posted by rawfox
Originally posted by muthax
Originally posted by Biskop
It's new, it's Asian, and it's more innovative than all recent Western games.

Of course people will hate it.

But most of the people bashing it just spread ill-informed bs and blatant misinformation ("it's ptw", "it's a Korean grinder", "combat sucks" etc), which is easily proven wrong by a simple fact check.

People trying to bash the actual features have a much harder time since that requires them to actually play and understand the game. And most people that make it past the tutorial seem to appreciate Wushu's uniqueness, even if they don't find it fun.

The same can be said for other games (TSW or GW2 as two of the main targets). The FACTUAL critic is rare, it's mostly either a lie, deformed reality or simply opinion ("Wot? No trinity? This game is FAIL").  What I really want to know is why people do that? 

 

BTW it's good that AoW has a built in 'filter' and actually needs you to use your brain a little

I think we got to differ between the game and everything else.

In this case, AoW - the game - seems really good.

Everything else, greedy publisher, milking rules, P2W, all that seems to target on a special audience.

I don't know about the publisher or all this P2W stuff, but it's probably my fault: being over 40 I don't get all this kiddie drama that always surrounds titles with cash shops.... I just play games for fun

Everyone needs drama in their life or they get bored. Most people with a life outside of gaming get enough of it in their day to day. People who live in these games need to create their own.

  Biskop

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1/30/13 11:06:53 AM#32
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
I tried the game cause of miss leading information so I'm trying to clarify and give the right info. Some fanboys were spreading wrong rumors that's all.

lol

The only ones spreading rumours and misleading information are people who keep talking out of their rear ends about games they haven't even played enough to comment on in a qualified manner.

But hey, good luck with your little crusade. If it makes you feel better about yourself, more power to you.

  muthax

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1/30/13 11:12:30 AM#33
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
I tried the game cause of miss leading information so I'm trying to clarify and give the right info. Some fanboys were spreading wrong rumors that's all.

Nah you are trolling because the game made you feel stoopid or because of  another silly reason, step down from your high horse. And sorry if we wasted a few hours of your precious (AH AH) time with our lies! Now you can go back to Pokemon full time...

  User Deleted
1/30/13 11:20:19 AM#34
Originally posted by Biskop
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
I tried the game cause of miss leading information so I'm trying to clarify and give the right info. Some fanboys were spreading wrong rumors that's all.

lol

The only ones spreading rumours and misleading information are people who keep talking out of their rear ends about games they haven't even played enough to comment on in a qualified manner.

But hey, good luck with your little crusade. If it makes you feel better about yourself, more power to you.

There we go that's one of them. And look at his response too, rude to another fellow gamer cause of a game. I bet in real life he get stomped by everyone so he talks crap online.

  muthax

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1/30/13 11:34:55 AM#35
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
Originally posted by Biskop
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
I tried the game cause of miss leading information so I'm trying to clarify and give the right info. Some fanboys were spreading wrong rumors that's all.

lol

The only ones spreading rumours and misleading information are people who keep talking out of their rear ends about games they haven't even played enough to comment on in a qualified manner.

But hey, good luck with your little crusade. If it makes you feel better about yourself, more power to you.

There we go that's one of them. And look at his response too, rude to another fellow gamer cause of a game. I bet in real life he get stomped by everyone so he talks crap online.

He is not being rude at all, but go on with your little past time, if it makes you feel better.

And don't project too much, sorta gives a way a lot of your real reasons :)

edit:aaah I get it:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/375584/Age-of-Wushu-is-not-Sandbox.html

so you are plannign a revenge for this? god help us

  thinktank001

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1/30/13 11:44:32 AM#36

If something can be aquired in game, then that doesn't disqualify it from being P2W.    P2W is buying an advantage in the cash shop.     Being able to purchase something now and not having to grind x amount of hours is buying an advantage.  

 

 

 

  Alamareth

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1/30/13 11:46:03 AM#37

I speak from the perspective of a person who bought the game for $20, and dumped another $30 to get a one time promotional deal.  I still have all of my cash shop gold, I have not converted 1 piece.

The, at this time, is pay to advance to a SMALL extent and FAR from P2W.  That is based on the current state of the cash shop, things might change going forward.

In response to the poster that said you can buy all of your skills and max them a few hours?  Yeah, that is technically true.  What is also true is that it would take literally hundreds of dollars to do so and I would catch up to your level in LESS THAN TWO WEEKS.  So yeah, it's possible - but it's unimagineably stupid.

Thus, I've not converted a cent in this game and I have a lvl 20 2nd inner and full silver gear with at least 2 buffs on each piece.  Some people are higher, many people are much lower.  I've not met a single person I can't beat due to their equipment and/or level.

  MadnessRealm

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1/30/13 11:52:05 AM#38
AoW is more or less P2W. As long as you can take a cash shop currency and turn it into unbound silver (which is the only currency that can be used to trade with other players) then it definitively falls into the P2W lot. However it's definitively not as bad as other MMOs that sells more powerful weapons, so I'm a bit torn on this. I'll probably keep playing a little and see how it goes (provided I can finally delete my character....48 hours period is ridiculous).

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  Aeonblades

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1/30/13 11:54:45 AM#39
Game is P2W even if it is a decent game. Don't sugar coat it. If you can buy the major currency in a cash shop, that is clearly P2W. Rabid Fanboys inbound I'm sure.

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  NaughtyP

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1/30/13 12:03:46 PM#40

I don't have a problem with people getting decent gear from real money. As long as I can obtain similar gear within a reasonable timeframe, it doesn't bother me. It's when there is no alternative to constant grinding or cash shop where I have a problem (looking at you GW2). As long as there are reasonable alternatives for gear acquisition and the game is enjoyable, I really don't care that much.

Does it suck? Yeah. Kinda. But it won't break the game for me personally as long as I don't have to grind my face off. At the end of the day though, it isn't something I enjoy seeing but I do understand why it exists.

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