Looks like SoE is slowly learning that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. The new F2P model for Vanguard is looking a lot better than before:

http://www.vanguardthegame.com/free.vm

The only thing still remotely restrictive in there is the gear quality, which is fair enough I suppose, you won't need it until you reach 55 and by then you probably should be contributing to future development either with a sub or cash payments.

Lets hope they update EQ2 to this model as well and get some life back into it.

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Originally posted by evilastro

Looks like SoE is slowly learning that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. The new F2P model for Vanguard is looking a lot better than before:

http://www.vanguardthegame.com/free.vm

 

The only thing still remotely restrictive in there is the gear quality, which is fair enough I suppose, you won't need it until you reach 55 and by then you probably should be contributing to future development either with a sub or cash payments.

Lets hope they update EQ2 to this model as well and get some life back into it.

looks like the execubots can be trained afterall.

Too little too late.

Would've liked to see Vanguard Truly Free years ago.

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy. I like supporting games I enjoy playing. When they force me to spend money to experience their complete game, I simply avoid the game and they don't get my money.

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Too little too late.

Would've liked to see Vanguard Truly Free years ago.

+1

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy.

Well, that's 'F2P' for you... But kudos for being honest about how the cash shop worked out for you. Most supporters usually pretend they don't spend a penny to enjoy the game in the fear of opening a chink in the armour of their argument.

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy.

 

Well, that's 'F2P' for you... But kudos for being honest about how the cash shop worked out for you. Most supporters usually pretend they don't spend a penny to enjoy the game in the fear of opening a chink in the armour of their argument.

I even expanded upon what I said. My motivation behind spending money is that I like supporting the games I enjoy playing. I want games I play to succeed and for them to keep bringing me new content.

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy. I like supporting games I enjoy playing. When they force me to spend money to experience their complete game, I simply avoid the game and they don't get my money.

Originally posted by Skuall

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Too little too late.

Would've liked to see Vanguard Truly Free years ago.

+1

-1

fine with paying sub

thats an excellent f2p model..you could play this game for yrs and not spend a penny..wtg SOE.

p.s. anyone who thinks this is a bad model is a total cheapskate.

Originally posted by Mardukk

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy. I like supporting games I enjoy playing. When they force me to spend money to experience their complete game, I simply avoid the game and they don't get my money.

 

I thought you had to pay $60 to play gw2? Im pretty sure you don't have to pay $60 to see most of the vg content.

You have to pay a monthly fee to access the higher end gear. I refuse to be forced to pay a monthly fee to play the full game.

Originally posted by kevjards

p.s. anyone who thinks this is a bad model is a total cheapskate.

This is 2013... being a cheapskate, having others carry you, and contributing nothing to your chosen hobby is 'cool'.

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Mardukk

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy. I like supporting games I enjoy playing. When they force me to spend money to experience their complete game, I simply avoid the game and they don't get my money.

 

I thought you had to pay $60 to play gw2? Im pretty sure you don't have to pay $60 to see most of the vg content.

You have to pay a monthly fee to access the higher end gear. I refuse to be forced to pay a monthly fee to play the full game.

According to their FAQ you can unlock the high end gear with "Unlock Item" potions from their marketplace. So I can't see a need to pay a monthly fee if you don't want to. Maybe I miss something....

http://www.vanguardthegame.com/faq.vm

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy.

 

Well, that's 'F2P' for you... But kudos for being honest about how the cash shop worked out for you. Most supporters usually pretend they don't spend a penny to enjoy the game in the fear of opening a chink in the armour of their argument.

I even expanded upon what I said. My motivation behind spending money is that I like supporting the games I enjoy playing. I want games I play to succeed and for them to keep bringing me new content.

 Thats nice and all, but its just you, and whike many others might do and feel the same, I'm betting the majority of the F2P players do not. There are many (if not the majority) that never spend a buck on GW2 after the box price.

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by kevjards

p.s. anyone who thinks this is a bad model is a total cheapskate.

 

This is 2013... being a cheapskate, having others carry you, and contributing nothing to your chosen hobby is 'cool'.

well given that i,m subbed to the game..i applaud SOE for doing this..i want this game to keep going..lets face it.who would have believed on release of this game it would be still up and running 6 yrs later.and being a subber i have no probs with the f2p guys being there.and never have in any game i've played.the more community the better the game and more chance of the f2p guys investing in the game..everyone wins then.

Originally posted by Anthur

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Mardukk

Originally posted by ice-vortex

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by ice-vortex
They need to get rid of the gear restrictions. I don't want to pay into a game because I have to, I want to pay into a game because I want to.

Or, "I don't want to pay at all 'cause I'm cheap."

Yet I have spent more money in Guild Wars 2 than I ever would have if it had a monthly fee. I would have spent even more if there were more things in their cash shop that I wanted to buy. I like supporting games I enjoy playing. When they force me to spend money to experience their complete game, I simply avoid the game and they don't get my money.

 

I thought you had to pay $60 to play gw2? Im pretty sure you don't have to pay $60 to see most of the vg content.

You have to pay a monthly fee to access the higher end gear. I refuse to be forced to pay a monthly fee to play the full game.

According to their FAQ you can unlock the high end gear with "Unlock Item" potions from their marketplace. So I can't see a need to pay a monthly fee if you don't want to. Maybe I miss something....

http://www.vanguardthegame.com/faq.vm

A little better, but if you have to unlock each individual item, that's treading down the path I don't like. Reminds me of having to buy manastone in Runes of Magic to have the best gear.