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  asrlohz

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Alea iacta est, beloved Doomsayers.

 
OP  1/29/13 12:10:45 PM#281
Originally posted by ShakyMo
"Oh noes 45 people signed a petition, we need to recalculate our budget, our sales projections are 2,999,955 now!"

Aye, around 50 people signed. That's in less than 24 hours. From this site and my social circle alone.

  deakon

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1/29/13 12:16:08 PM#282
Originally posted by asrlohz
Originally posted by ShakyMo
"Oh noes 45 people signed a petition, we need to recalculate our budget, our sales projections are 2,999,955 now!"

Aye, around 50 people signed. That's in less than 24 hours. From this site and my social circle alone.

Yesterday the teso page here had around 10k unique hits, its already near 5k today, so not even 1%

  Maelwydd

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1/29/13 12:16:08 PM#283
Originally posted by ShakyMo
"Oh noes 45 people signed a petition, we need to recalculate our budget, our sales projections are 2,999,955 now!"

Just for arguments sake...

How many would need to sign a petition for the game to be changed in your opinion?

100?

1,000?

10,000?

100,000?

1,000,000?

And at what point do you think a developer would look at what their customers are saying and look at changing things?

Do developers pay people to test their game because they are 100% certain they have it all right or because they need to know if the game has bugs AND if the game works?

Do developers need to evolve the business model AND deisgn to meet the current market?

Do companies pay to have regular market surveys done and to find out what the market place trends are?

I think you underestimate just how important it is for developers to remain aware of what the markets are doing. And that happens by people talking, sharing opinions, making petitions.....

 

I know you will blow it off but there it is.

 

  PyrateLV

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1/29/13 12:33:36 PM#284

My way of signing a petition against this POS will be to not buy it or play it.

 

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  Mollow

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1/29/13 12:38:43 PM#285
Ridicule much?
  User Deleted
1/29/13 12:42:36 PM#286
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by ShakyMo
"Oh noes 45 people signed a petition, we need to recalculate our budget, our sales projections are 2,999,955 now!"

Just for arguments sake...

How many would need to sign a petition for the game to be changed in your opinion?

100?

1,000?

10,000?

100,000?

1,000,000?

And at what point do you think a developer would look at what their cunstomers are saying and look at changing things?

Do developers pay people to test their game because they are 100% certain they have it all right or because they need to know if the game has bugs AND if the game works?

Do developers need to evolve the business model AND deisgn to meet the current market?

Do companies pay to have regular market surveys done and to find out what the market place trends are?

I think you underestimate just how important it is for developers to remain aware of what the markets are doing. And that happens by people talking, sharing opinions, making petitions.....

 

I know you will blow it off but there it is.

 

Seen devs who dont/didnt give a rats ass about what the community say/said.

So no... They've had many meetings about this for sure, Doing calculations and they've looked at many other MMOs and their models. And figured that this suits them and (Their) game, not yours, not mine. THEIRS. You can ask them to change, or put in a petition to change. But they wont. Like their idea for what it is. "play if you like, dont if you dont like" I'm sure ArcheAge suits those who want open world more.

If the majority of people like it the way it is. If you dont like their idea, go make your own game the way you want!

  Kuinn

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Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2092

1/29/13 12:45:00 PM#287
Originally posted by PyrateLV

My way of signing a petition against this POS will be to not buy it or play it.

 

 

POS? Nah, it will be just great game when it comes to these one monthers, propably no longevity at all but a blast for few weeks or months. Kinda lika Skyrim was.

  User Deleted
1/29/13 12:47:48 PM#288
Originally posted by Kuinn
Originally posted by PyrateLV

My way of signing a petition against this POS will be to not buy it or play it.

 

 

POS? Nah, it will be just great game when it comes to these one monthers, propably no longevity at all but a blast for few weeks or months. Kinda lika Skyrim was.

And Planetside 2 is a One-night-stand after the pub and very drunk... waking up with someone you regret taking home.


Ateast in TESO you can play with ppl, big advantage to Skyrim

  azzamasin

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1/29/13 12:49:18 PM#289
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Sovrath

Though I do agree that if a game isn't what you want then don't play it. Send a message.

Personally speaking I hope there is room for improvement and I would rather speak my mind and walk away then not speak my mind, walk away and wonder if I could have prevented the mistake.

I'm talking about after it launches. Of course peopel should feel free to express themselves. but after all is said and done, if it's not what you want then don't play it.

I did sign up to beta test and will test and give my opinions. But if the game isn't what I would be interested in I sure as hell won't buy it unless it really captivates.

Oh I will do that. Why on earth would I pay to play an online game that doesn't resemble a TES game when I have them installed on my computer anyway. I am looking for TES online and to me TESO isn't that atm, I hope it changes.

My hope is that TESO is the spiritual companion to the SPG games. At the moment TESO is about as spiritual a companion as a puddle of mud.

That would be where you're wrong.  ESO is every much an Elder Scrolls game as WoW is a Warcraft game.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Kuinn

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Joined: 1/10/11
Posts: 2092

1/29/13 3:44:22 PM#290
Originally posted by ikarrian
Originally posted by Kuinn
Originally posted by PyrateLV

My way of signing a petition against this POS will be to not buy it or play it.

 

 

POS? Nah, it will be just great game when it comes to these one monthers, propably no longevity at all but a blast for few weeks or months. Kinda lika Skyrim was.

And Planetside 2 is a One-night-stand after the pub and very drunk... waking up with someone you regret taking home.


Ateast in TESO you can play with ppl, big advantage to Skyrim

Planetside 2 is not a mmorpg, and has nothing to do with TESO, or did I miss something? :)

 

Skyrim was awesome game, I expect TESO to be at least good, hopefully even great. The themepark feature list however screams of 'one monther' when it comes to longevity. There's just no evidence to think otherwise, I wish I would be wrong, but wishes are for children right?

  Distopia

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1/29/13 3:49:12 PM#291
Originally posted by Yamota

ESO should be a large seamless world where you should be able to go wherever you want and join whatever faction you want (but obviously with consquences). This locking you into a faction is just rubbish, a copout and goes against the spirit of Elder Scrolls games.

Will that happen? No, the game is a ThemePark and no ThemePark to date has had a large seamless world where you have the freedom to join whichever side you want (or not at all). ThemeParks are highly controlled game arenas where the developers tell you what you can and cannot do. Easy for them but rubbish as gameplay (imo).

The entire world design seems to be there to support the PVP aspect of the game (large scale), it's a copout for PVP design I guess but anything else? I don't see it.

I think it is also an important distiction to cite that this is not another TES game. It is a game using the setting but trying to do it's own thing (inspired by not just TES titles, it's also inspired by the genre it's seeking to enter).

Should it be it's own game or copy the SP games? That's a question I don't think I can answer, I'll just say if it keeps players happy it did what it was trying to.

I can't say it's like DAOC until I try it, as GW2 sounded like it as well, as did TSW, yet they did not have that feel when playing.

 

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  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

1/29/13 3:51:19 PM#292
Originally posted by Kuinn
Originally posted by ikarrian
Originally posted by Kuinn
Originally posted by PyrateLV

My way of signing a petition against this POS will be to not buy it or play it.

 

 

POS? Nah, it will be just great game when it comes to these one monthers, propably no longevity at all but a blast for few weeks or months. Kinda lika Skyrim was.

And Planetside 2 is a One-night-stand after the pub and very drunk... waking up with someone you regret taking home.


Ateast in TESO you can play with ppl, big advantage to Skyrim

Planetside 2 is not a mmorpg, and has nothing to do with TESO, or did I miss something? :)

 

Skyrim was awesome game, I expect TESO to be at least good, hopefully even great. The themepark feature list however screams of 'one monther' when it comes to longevity. There's just no evidence to think otherwise, I wish I would be wrong, but wishes are for children right?

both games have RVR

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

1/29/13 3:52:46 PM#293
Originally posted by ikarrian
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by ShakyMo
"Oh noes 45 people signed a petition, we need to recalculate our budget, our sales projections are 2,999,955 now!"

Just for arguments sake...

How many would need to sign a petition for the game to be changed in your opinion?

100?

1,000?

10,000?

100,000?

1,000,000?

And at what point do you think a developer would look at what their cunstomers are saying and look at changing things?

Do developers pay people to test their game because they are 100% certain they have it all right or because they need to know if the game has bugs AND if the game works?

Do developers need to evolve the business model AND deisgn to meet the current market?

Do companies pay to have regular market surveys done and to find out what the market place trends are?

I think you underestimate just how important it is for developers to remain aware of what the markets are doing. And that happens by people talking, sharing opinions, making petitions.....

 

I know you will blow it off but there it is.

 

Seen devs who dont/didnt give a rats ass about what the community say/said.

So no... They've had many meetings about this for sure, Doing calculations and they've looked at many other MMOs and their models. And figured that this suits them and (Their) game, not yours, not mine. THEIRS. You can ask them to change, or put in a petition to change. But they wont. Like their idea for what it is. "play if you like, dont if you dont like" I'm sure ArcheAge suits those who want open world more.

If the majority of people like it the way it is. If you dont like their idea, go make your own game the way you want!

last time i checked - 55 people wasnt "a community"

  lizardbones

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1/29/13 3:53:30 PM#294


Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by Distopia From an RP perspective given the lore for the MMO, exploring other zones (enemy territory) wouldn't make sense at all to me. Considering that this is more or less a racial war.
Well, it's not a racial war really. The Dark Elves enslaved the Argonians for gods sake. It's more political. It all revolves around the White Gold Tower.

Anyhow, I'm quite sure that a war doesn't mean that every person originating from a certain country would be banned from the opposing country just because of a war. However, there is also espionage and so on.




Er...that's pretty much what war means. People in country X declare war on people in country Y, which means anyone from country Y trying to get into country X get killed, imprisoned or just stopped at the borders. So it would not make sense for people to just waltz across borders in the game in the middle of a war.

An espionage system could be cool though. You could have a series of rewards where you can get gear and such that's only available from opposing factions as trophies. If you got caught, you die, lose whatever opposing faction stuff you have and you rez in your home city.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  uidCaustic

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Posts: 148

1/29/13 3:53:34 PM#295

Hey guyz u r sign mai vapid potishun!  We r chng welrd!

 

Jesus this is stupid... even for the MMORPG forums.

  ShakyMo

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Posts: 7246

1/29/13 3:59:43 PM#296
Originally posted by uidCaustic

Hey guyz u r sign mai vapid potishun!  We r chng welrd!

 

Jesus this is stupid... even for the MMORPG forums.

they have 50 WHOLE SIGNATURES now.  The revoloution is gathering momentum.

  Distopia

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1/29/13 4:05:58 PM#297
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by uidCaustic

Hey guyz u r sign mai vapid potishun!  We r chng welrd!

 

Jesus this is stupid... even for the MMORPG forums.

they have 50 WHOLE SIGNATURES now.  The revoloution is gathering momentum.

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  sapphen

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1/29/13 5:57:10 PM#298
Real mature.
  SirFubar

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1/29/13 6:12:11 PM#299
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by SirFubar
Originally posted by snapfusion
Originally posted by Emeraq

I thought seamless meant no transition loading (or blank) screens? In which case both Oblivion and Skryim are NOT seamless.

 

Maybe I'm wrong about what is considered seemless but to me it sounds to me like this request is to make it truly an open world, rather than limiting access to your zone and PvP zones only.... 

Yes you are wrong, the gameworld is completely seamless, your are referring to the one major town in Oblivion, Morrowind and dungeons that triggered loading screens.  The rest of the game was seamless meaning you could run from one end of the gameworld to the other without a load screen.

You obviously didn't play Morrowind to say this. I'm playing it atm casually and the loading screens aren't just in one major town at all. When you change to some certain zones, you see a loading screen. When you open a door, another "kind" of loading screen. Sure they aren't everywhere but you see them way more often than what you're saying. You can't run to one end of the gameworld to the other without seeing some loading screens.

You can walk from Seyda Neen (sp?) to the other side of the continent with no loading screens.

From what I've seen, that not true at all. There's a loading screen as soon as you enter Ascadian Isles Region. Didn't try another road tho and I'm pretty sure every road will give you at least 1 loading screen along the way.

  miagisan

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1/29/13 7:37:48 PM#300

53!!! 

 

VIVA LA REVELOCION!!!!

 

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