If people are factionless at start then people can wander the entire world of Tamriel (you know, one of the major selling points of the game) without it being an issue.

If race wasn't locked into faction then people wouldn't see an Orc and automatically know which faction they belonged to and so would not assume they are in your lands for Evil reasons.

Up until the point where someone aligned themselves with one of the factions they would be free to be whatever they wanted, a trader, adventurer, blacksmith, potionmaker. Mages could go on pilgramages to the College at Winterhold, Bretons could visit the swamps of the far east or the cloudy morrowind.

Factions, or rather race locked factions assigned at character creation just destroys so much potential and freedom. I still am baffled that anyone can see an advantage to it. You can still have 3 faction PvP without locking it to race.....what benefit does locking it have? Really, I struggle to see any benefit.

I do not support this one bit.

Why would you want to take something that has only been done one other time in modern MMO gaming (DAoC) and instead make it like every single MMO in Existence.  Isn't it bad enough that it undeservedly is called a clone and those same people want to make it more clone like?  *BOGGLES*

Originally posted by azzamasin

I do not support this one bit.

 

Why would you want to take something that has only been done one other time in modern MMO gaming (DAoC) and instead make it like every single MMO in Existence.  Isn't it bad enough that it undeservedly is called a clone and those same people want to make it more clone like?  *BOGGLES*

I agree, said pretty much what I was thinking. No ty OP.

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by TheHavok
A petition right now to change the core design of the world?  Yeah...good luck with that.

So the core design of the world is that you cannot walk wherever you want? I'm quite sure that it is not the core mechanic. Try again.

Pretty certain I couldn't visit Hammerfell while playing Skyrim.  Or visit Elsweyr while playing Morrowind.  Or visit Black Marsh while playing Oblivian.  I'm just saying.

As for seemless, each territory is seemless and they are fairly huge by traditional MMO reckoning.

Originally posted by azzamasin

I do not support this one bit.

 

Why would you want to take something that has only been done one other time in modern MMO gaming (DAoC) and instead make it like every single MMO in Existence.  Isn't it bad enough that it undeservedly is called a clone and those same people want to make it more clone like?  *BOGGLES*

Well, he wants it to be free roaming through all the areas like an elder scrolls game.

So it really shouldn't boggle at all.

I guess he doesn't want his elderscrolls game to be a reskinned DAoC.

Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by azzamasin

I do not support this one bit.

 

Why would you want to take something that has only been done one other time in modern MMO gaming (DAoC) and instead make it like every single MMO in Existence.  Isn't it bad enough that it undeservedly is called a clone and those same people want to make it more clone like?  *BOGGLES*

I agree, said pretty much what I was thinking. No ty OP.

It's not about making it like any other MMO (Which is silly, this has barely been done the past 8 years.) It's about keeping the true feeling of The Elder Scrolls present. And SWTOR also had faction restricted areas, so for gods sake, read through the petition before you start tossing meaningless and groundless accusations along.

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by TheHavok
A petition right now to change the core design of the world?  Yeah...good luck with that.

So the core design of the world is that you cannot walk wherever you want? I'm quite sure that it is not the core mechanic. Try again.

Pretty certain I couldn't visit Hammerfell while playing Skyrim.  Or visit Elsweyr while playing Morrowind.  Or visit Black Marsh while playing Oblivian.  I'm just saying.

 

As for seemless, each territory is seemless and they are fairly huge by traditional MMO reckoning.

Well, that's because the game was designed around Skyrim, but TESO is designed around the whole of Tamriel. The places exist in that game, it will just refuse you to enter them and explore unless you level up a new character. That's not ideal. And if you do like making toons nothing will change, you can still do it in that manner. Making toons will still allow you to access the faction restricted content. But exploring is in itself content.

Trust me, if you play on your main, walk through the enemy territory and see all those wonders, you will still want to experience the lore and the quests. The dungeons and treasures. It will lead to a whole other level of anticipation.

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by TheHavok
A petition right now to change the core design of the world?  Yeah...good luck with that.

So the core design of the world is that you cannot walk wherever you want? I'm quite sure that it is not the core mechanic. Try again.

Pretty certain I couldn't visit Hammerfell while playing Skyrim.  Or visit Elsweyr while playing Morrowind.  Or visit Black Marsh while playing Oblivian.  I'm just saying.

 

As for seemless, each territory is seemless and they are fairly huge by traditional MMO reckoning.

Not a valid argument. Hammerfall wasn't part of the Skyrim game. Might as well have said you couldn't visit Big Ben in Skyrim.

Both Hammerfell and Skyrim exist in TESO though it is just the game is stopping you getting there not that it doesn't exist in the game.

In fact the catchy "Explore the entire continent of Tamriel at last" is kind of a selling point.

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Originally posted by azzamasin

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Originally posted by asrlohz

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Originally posted by TheHavok A petition right now to change the core design of the world?  Yeah...good luck with that.

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So the core design of the world is that you cannot walk wherever you want? I'm quite sure that it is not the core mechanic. Try again.

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Pretty certain I couldn't visit Hammerfell while playing Skyrim.  Or visit Elsweyr while playing Morrowind.  Or visit Black Marsh while playing Oblivian.  I'm just saying..

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In 8 days your premise will be proven wrong.

Originally posted by Maelwydd

If people are factionless at start then people can wander the entire world of Tamriel (you know, one of the major selling points of the game) without it being an issue.

If race wasn't locked into faction then people wouldn't see an Orc and automatically know which faction they belonged to and so would not assume they are in your lands for Evil reasons.

Up until the point where someone aligned themselves with one of the factions they would be free to be whatever they wanted, a trader, adventurer, blacksmith, potionmaker. Mages could go on pilgramages to the College at Winterhold, Bretons could visit the swamps of the far east or the cloudy morrowind.

Factions, or rather race locked factions assigned at character creation just destroys so much potential and freedom. I still am baffled that anyone can see an advantage to it. You can still have 3 faction PvP without locking it to race.....what benefit does locking it have? Really, I struggle to see any benefit.

Personally, I think this would be ideal. But I'm afraid that won't happen, no matter how hard we try. It took WoW many a years to get to a neutral faction that could join whichever one they pleased, and even then people did not appreciate it.

Can't say that I've played Mist of Panderia, or WoW at all since Cataclysm but still.

The world isnt seamless in order to protect pve'ers.

The petition should be against them. 

/troll face

Originally posted by alakram
I want to explore the full map with one character, it can't be difficult to remove that boundaries, I signed it.

Aye, they can remove the boundries, no problem at all. However the major problem would be making the barriers seamless. Since the game world isn't intact. All the factions are instanced within themselves. Think of it as the different continents in WoW. But even so, I'd be fine with one loading screen between the maps if that is the only way to solve it, but seamless would be the ideal solution for the ultimate immersion.

Originally posted by Maephisto

The world isnt seamless in order to protect pve'ers.

The petition should be against them. 

/troll face

It's true what you say, but the world is instanced to protect the dungeons and possibly mob stealing. But also because it makes it easier to program and grants more area to work on performance allowing mid-end computers to run the game. And since the quests in different factions will still call you by possibly race and name, if you could talk to a Highelf questgiver as an orc that might ruin the immersion when you're called "Young Bosmer" instead.

However you could solve this by not letting people speak to eachother freely, but that might be a problem lorewise.

I'd say: Come back here and complaint when you've acctaully played the game.

Ppl do love to make a Hen out of a feather.

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by TheHavok
A petition right now to change the core design of the world?  Yeah...good luck with that.

So the core design of the world is that you cannot walk wherever you want? I'm quite sure that it is not the core mechanic. Try again.

Pretty certain I couldn't visit Hammerfell while playing Skyrim.  Or visit Elsweyr while playing Morrowind.  Or visit Black Marsh while playing Oblivian.  I'm just saying.

 

As for seemless, each territory is seemless and they are fairly huge by traditional MMO reckoning.

Well, that's because the game was designed around Skyrim, but TESO is designed around the whole of Tamriel. The places exist in that game, it will just refuse you to enter them and explore unless you level up a new character. That's not ideal. And if you do like making toons nothing will change, you can still do it in that manner. Making toons will still allow you to access the faction restricted content. But exploring is in itself content.

 

Trust me, if you play on your main, walk through the enemy territory and see all those wonders, you will still want to experience the lore and the quests. The dungeons and treasures. It will lead to a whole other level of anticipation.

Morrowind was based on morrowind but you couldnt explor all of morrowind, in that game you only had access to vvardenfell as far as i can remember

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by alakram
I want to explore the full map with one character, it can't be difficult to remove that boundaries, I signed it.

Aye, they can remove the boundries, no problem at all. However the major problem would be making the barriers seamless. Since the game world isn't intact. All the factions are instanced within themselves. Think of it as the different continents in WoW. But even so, I'd be fine with one loading screen between the maps if that is the only way to solve it, but seamless would be the ideal solution for the ultimate immersion.

 Have you even looked at the map? There is no point where the faction territory comes together. The only thing that they all touch is Cyrodiil, which you probably go through a portal or something to get too. Its funny you think there is a switch that they can just turn on to open the game up.

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'd say: Come back here and complaint when you've acctaully played the game.

Ppl do love to make a Hen out of a feather.

If I order a Pizza and they put Anchivies onto it I would get angry if the store said "Wait till you get it and take a bite, you will love it".

This is the same thing, I know I don't like it so waiting till I play the game will not change that.