Originally posted by augustgrace

First off, again the $200 pack doesn't get you the drow race, it gets you a drizzt style "background" option for any drow you roll.  Not clear what that special background gets you, if anything.

Updated schedule info is up-

Beta Weekend 1 - February 8-10:

• Hero of the North Founder's Pack purchasers
• Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers

Beta Weekend 2 - March 8-10

• Hero of the North Founder's Pack purchasers
• Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers
• Torchlight 2 pre-orders
• RaiderZ Elite Pack purchasers

Beta Weekend 3 - March 22-24

• Hero of the North Founder's Pack purchasers
• Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers

Other Beta participants - Information to be revealed

• PC Gamer keys
• PAX / GenCon / Keys from game conventions and events
• RaiderZ Elite Pack purchasers

 

So if you want in the first weekend, it's a minimum of $60 upfront

 

edit: Is Drizzt famous for a tattoo?  Don't recall him even having one. 

Updated weekend 2 

looks like they completely forgot about Lifetime STO and CO members *sigh*

i will probably buy the $20 dollar pack. Just to get early access and try to catch some bugs.

I do hope that Cryptic / PWE listen to the testers feedback and fix as much as they can before launch. After all they are going to charge a lot upfront to "cover development"

Originally posted by HikaruShidou

Originally posted by augustgrace

First off, again the $200 pack doesn't get you the drow race, it gets you a drizzt style "background" option for any drow you roll.  Not clear what that special background gets you, if anything.

Updated schedule info is up-

Beta Weekend 1 - February 8-10:

• Hero of the North Founder's Pack purchasers
• Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers

Beta Weekend 2 - March 8-10

• Hero of the North Founder's Pack purchasers
• Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers
• Torchlight 2 pre-orders
• RaiderZ Elite Pack purchasers

Beta Weekend 3 - March 22-24

• Hero of the North Founder's Pack purchasers
• Guardian of Neverwinter purchasers

Other Beta participants - Information to be revealed

• PC Gamer keys
• PAX / GenCon / Keys from game conventions and events
• RaiderZ Elite Pack purchasers

 

So if you want in the first weekend, it's a minimum of $60 upfront

 

edit: Is Drizzt famous for a tattoo?  Don't recall him even having one. 

Updated weekend 2 

looks like they completely forgot about Lifetime STO and CO members *sigh*

No it has been update on the NW forums lifetimers fit in the category :

"Other Beta participants - Information to be revealed
 

• PC Gamer keys
• PAX / GenCon / Keys from game conventions and events
• RaiderZ Elite Pack purchasers"

Originally posted by Darkcrystal

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Originally posted by Darkcrystal

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

The new marketing scam..................$200.00 for a pack with a made up value of $549.00.  Do companies actually believe the product they put out is worth $549.00?

 

Think of what $549.00 can buy you and your getting a game?  Sad as this is on my watch list.

 

 

 

 

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Sure, and nothing you mentioned refutes the over priced digital game items.

 

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bah I think those complaining actually very much know what their hard earned cash is worth.  I think your skimming over the fact that peeps find 200$ too much. I don't have a prob with 20, 60 or even 80 buck. I would equate that with buy a console game for the ps3 xbox 360 etc etc or even could compare it too b2p mmo where you need to buy the client.

Charging 200 before you can even try out the game though is just meh.  Bloody hell you can praticaly buy a console for that price.

People want a fair price that is why they complain and 200 is not it IMHO.

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Originally posted by Darkcrystal
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People don't want to be ripped off.  You tellimg me 20 bucks for a mount is completely justified?  Well maybe for you you can throw away money all you want but some people want value for their money.  And 200 bucks is simpely outrageous and highway robbery.  Would you pay a $35 for a 8 dollar value meal?  That's what is going on.  I shell out money for games that warrent it.  DDO I bought the collectors edition.  However I knew exactly what I was getting unlike here which nothing of the value is exlained.

Not to mention one has to shell out 200 bucks for a race, a companion, 3 char slots, VIP lounge access, a shit ton of astral diamonds for who knows what they will be good for.  People likely will kjust want the race, the companion, and the VIP lounge access and give a rats ass for the rest.  Paying $200 is ridiculous if you just want those items.

I'm for supporting but no way in hell $200 dollars.  $60 sure, $90 need something really enticing for it. but over $120 is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Ambros123

 

People don't want to be ripped off.  You tellimg me 20 bucks for a mount is completely justified? 

im sure people will be fine with paying 20 for a mount. WoW has 25 bucks mounts on top of the subscription. Also, Perfect World Entertainment is being gentle here. They sell 50 dollar mounts in Perfect World International. If the mount is cool i would  buy it for 20 since the game is F2P, and youll have your mount forever (i just hope they are account wide)... if its a freakin horse then yeah its too much lol

Originally posted by Darkcrystal

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Originally posted by Darkcrystal

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

The new marketing scam..................$200.00 for a pack with a made up value of $549.00.  Do companies actually believe the product they put out is worth $549.00?

 

Think of what $549.00 can buy you and your getting a game?  Sad as this is on my watch list.

 

 

 

 

Oh how many games have you  made latley?? DO you even know how much it costs to make a game these days??? How much each program costs for license?? I do, BECAUSE I own alot of them, I have over 80,000 in programs that I had to buy to be in the field, and game engines etc, so you have no idea... Do some research before you talk.. You would have a clue.

Sure, and nothing you mentioned refutes the over priced digital game items.

 

Where does it say you have to buy it??? Nothing says it at all.. So don't buy it, and go else where and cry, I don't get it at all,  20 bucks for a game is dirt cheap even if the game sucks.. They said they will have an Open beta, so don't pay for anything and try it for free, anyone who preorders should get in as a part of the beta, because they PAID....

 

Thats how games have always done it, so i'm a bit confused I own every P2P MMo on the market and yes I do, alot of them sucked, yes , but I do not whine about it , its my own fault, but  I also been in the industry for years and I know what it takes to build a game like this and for people to sit here and whine about what a game costs its funny to me...

 

To me thats just tells me some people have never really worked for a living before at all... They have no clue what it takes to make a MMO.. MMO's are the hardest games to make in the industry and costs the most.. So I do not get when someone crys about 20 bucks and says a game is to much??? REALLY, no one said you had to pay 200 bucks for founders, don't like the costs don't buy it, don't like  what it  offers don't buy it..

SO confused why people need to complain, oh I forgot you can, its the net, and you need attention what was I thinking.

/rolleyes.

Ah yes it's the "if you have a position against over priced game your whining" argument.

Originally posted by RedMachine72
Ain't even gone into open beta and they want to sell it already? Fug no. I'll wait for Elder scrolls beta before I buy this. Bought the damndable lifetime sub for TSW and now it's free. I will never buy anything pre-order again without doing a beta. Not just paying for getting into the beta.

Not only that but one of the spotlights taken from the NWN series is The Foundry which allows the playerbase to make the content.  I haven't seen anything about actual developer updates to the game.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/634/view/news/page/1/read/25611/Neverwinter-New-Dev-Blog-Details-The-Foundry.html

Just to clarify a few things:

The Menzoberranzan Renegade is NOT a race. It is a unique Background Selection for your Drow race characters, which when chosen will grant unique traits to your Drow character(s).

 Originally Posted by Chat with CM PinPointError

My advice.  Wait.  Just for heavens sake wait.  Roll a human, or whatever free character there is.  Play a week and see if the game is even worth it.  FFS stop the endless circle of CO's, STO's, TOR's and everything inbetween, say "No" to these hype driven loads of crap and empty promises.  How may people are thrilled with their collector's edition of TOR?  How is that "CE Store ingame that is going to be upgraded regularily" working out?

We have seen nothing about this game beyond some prelaunch interviews and videos.  Hey the ones for AoC were freaking sweet too, that game sure turned out to be the PvP leetness everyone was looking for, didn't it?

Anyone who pays to get into a beta has, in my opinion, lost their freaking minds.  And yes, I have been there folks.  Beta gets you nothing that you can keep when the game goes Live.  Save your money.  the game will be F2P.

Plus this is Cryptic.  Having learned from their previous mistakes, they are going to do "beta event weekends" again I see.  Trust me the first 6 months after launch will be beta enough.  Just wait and hop in on launch day.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I get the feeling they are rushing this game out.  Typical Cryptic, they have not changed a bit.

It is just flat out wrong to charge for beta access.  You are a fool if you do so.  

The game has already been delayed quite a bit. The original release date was supposed to be end of last year. http://www.vg247.com/2012/08/16/neverwinter-delayed-until-early-2013/

So I wouldn't say this is being rushed...if they released last year, then yeah I'd agree with you. Although a game needs to follow deadlines like everything else in life.

Originally posted by Badgered86
I still haven't received my key from pre-ordering Torchlight II (from PWE directly, not from Steam) and their customer service hasn't gotten back to me.  This company really seems to suck.

Please continue to update your Support Ticket every day or every other day with your civil request for assistance.

Just to be sure though, you did get your Torchligt II key in your email, yes?  That very same email should have contained two codes, the first one was for the NWO CBT and the 2nd for T2.

lets hope its doesnt turn into an age of wushu cash scam

o wait i never pay a dime!

ahahahaha stupid cashers

I feel like I'm watching TV...Just 3 easy payments...People really eat this stuff up. I want to know who figured out the value of what $549? In a game that will be F2P. I guess their saying..if the game was not free to play you'd be paying $549 BUT just 30 seconds left for the AWESOME deal of 2013 ..not..500..not 450 not even 400. Just wait call in the next 15 seconds and I will drop $200 off that! YES today only you get this great made up, cartoonish digital toys for $200

People to the same thing in wow. Some  mount on ebay hundreds to thousands. For NOTHING.

I should think you guys have not learn from the STO Beta.

Its the same old shit but with different skin.

How many players regret paying STO to access its Beta?

Remember this is cash grab Cryptic / PWE lol.

Originally posted by barezz

My advice.  Wait.  Just for heavens sake wait.  Roll a human, or whatever free character there is.  Play a week and see if the game is even worth it.  FFS stop the endless circle of CO's, STO's, TOR's and everything inbetween, say "No" to these hype driven loads of crap and empty promises.  How may people are thrilled with their collector's edition of TOR?  How is that "CE Store ingame that is going to be upgraded regularily" working out?

We have seen nothing about this game beyond some prelaunch interviews and videos.  Hey the ones for AoC were freaking sweet too, that game sure turned out to be the PvP leetness everyone was looking for, didn't it?

Anyone who pays to get into a beta has, in my opinion, lost their freaking minds.  And yes, I have been there folks.  Beta gets you nothing that you can keep when the game goes Live.  Save your money.  the game will be F2P.

Plus this is Cryptic.  Having learned from their previous mistakes, they are going to do "beta event weekends" again I see.  Trust me the first 6 months after launch will be beta enough.  Just wait and hop in on launch day.

That would be a common sense thing to do, yes.

A FREE2PLAY game is asking me to pay to beta test their game.

Lemme think about this...