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  Arcona

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1/28/13 4:11:36 PM#61

from official forum:

the part in that article that states in the subject line, "You can play Drizzt" - is VERY misleading. You CANNOT be Drizzt. You can however, if you buy that particular Package, have a similar background to his for your drow character(s).

  Torvaldr

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1/28/13 4:15:40 PM#62
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

Curse you AquaScum!

  Dreamo84

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Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 3055

I actually still like MMORPGs

1/28/13 4:26:23 PM#63
Damn I wanna play a Drow but $200 is out of my price range right now with so many other great MMOs taking my time and money! Might splurge on the $60 pack as it seems like a good deal though. I don't mind supporting a game even f2p

  Asm0deus

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1/28/13 4:35:34 PM#64
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by Asm0deus
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Asm0deus

Way to expensive for founders packs... what is this new BS where companies make us pay to supposedly beta test?

You're really just paying for early access, guaranteed beta time, and a few perks.  If you can wait, might as well!  It'll be F2P after all.

I can understand a 60$ founder pack. It's kind of like buying a ps3 game or buying the client if you will but 200$ is just retarded

The $200 pack is obviously not meant for everyone, which is why there are three tiers to the program. I'm not sure why people react this way every time a new game announces a pack like this. Think back to any MMO you've ever played, didn't you know that 'one guy' who always played? Even when you took a break for six months and came back? He'd still be there happily playing like it was the first month of launch.

That's the player who will be interested in the top-tier pack. It's not like PWE (or any other game offering this sort of thing) is only offering a single high priced tier.  No one's forcing you to buy the thing. The fact of the matter is that game development costs real money and being able to guarantee some sort of upfront revenue is pretty attractive, especially when you're giving away the game for free. I think offering excited and dedicated fans some additional value in exchange for an upfront cost can be a real win-win for both parties involved when done well.

Have at it if you want to criticize the actual content:value ratio of this particular pack (or any other), but I think the kneejerk scoffing at the price of these high-tier packs and $150 Collector Editions is honestly a bit silly.

There nothing kneejerk about it, it is downright scammy, your example doesn't hold water, that guy that keeps playing and playing and playing won't know if he will like the game till he tries it.

 

The problem is that it add a bunch of junk you don't really want to force you to spend more for that "exculsive" item you can only get while the founders deal is going.

 

If it was truly like you say they would add the exclusive items and account unlocks in all three tiers minus the other junk you will be able to buy from the cash shop.

 

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  FoeHammerJT

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Posts: 149

Knowledge is the enemy of faith.

1/28/13 4:41:21 PM#65
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

That depends solely on your point of view and what you consider of value.

I believe the majority of complaints here revolve around the quickly increasing cost of content. $140 more for lets see:

2 Extra Days in Beta..(Paid Beta time is F2P???)

A race

A mount

A pet

A title

No queue (Ahhhh Queues, the greatest addition that F2P has brought the gaming community..a wait..to play a game..)

Excluding the Queue, because loggging into a game in a timely manner used to be free and a must for any game, we arrive at a cost of 28.00 per perk. Not a single one of which, you will ever be able to hold, or keep after the servers are down.

Sounds like a great deal, pony on up! 

  bcbully

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Posts: 7316

1/28/13 4:43:26 PM#66
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Not gonna lie... tempted to shell $200 for the Drizzt-alike. :P 

Edit: At least in this case, you're not paying a "Life Sub", just for a lot of perks. The above tongue-emote implies sarcasm by the way. 

Your rich Bill. This is how I felt. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Arcona

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Joined: 3/30/04
Posts: 1192

1/28/13 4:44:37 PM#67
FoeHammerJT people on kickstarter gladly pay 5000$ extra to name a place in the game.
  MMOGamer71

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Joined: 11/12/07
Posts: 1610

1/28/13 4:45:56 PM#68
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

Funding a game for development is not the same as buying a game package from a game already developed.

 

Da?

  xBarachielx

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Joined: 7/27/12
Posts: 23

1/28/13 4:49:44 PM#69
Cryptic and Perfect World Entertainment.  Exactly the two names I would trust when blndly handing out money. 
  Arcona

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Joined: 3/30/04
Posts: 1192

1/28/13 4:49:46 PM#70
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

Funding a game for development is not the same as buying a game package from a game already developed.

Da?

Some of the packages you get on kickstarter are extremely similar :P

A MMO is always in development, they dont stop after release.

  MMOGamer71

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Joined: 11/12/07
Posts: 1610

1/28/13 4:51:52 PM#71
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

Funding a game for development is not the same as buying a game package from a game already developed.

Da?

Some of the packages you get on kickstarter are extremely similar :P

A MMO is always in development, they dont stop after release.

Grasping at straws eh?

  Asm0deus

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Joined: 9/06/10
Posts: 884

1/28/13 4:52:30 PM#72
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

Funding a game for development is not the same as buying a game package from a game already developed.

Da?

Some of the packages you get on kickstarter are extremely similar :P

A MMO is always in development, they dont stop after release.

Are you saying PWE and Cryptic are like small indie companies and need our extra support lol? 

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  augustgrace

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Posts: 631

1/28/13 4:52:57 PM#73

Just a note-

$200 pack doesn't unlock drow race, everyone has access to drow race.  What you're getting is the "Renegade" drow "background.'  No confirmation is that means different or additional skills over the standard drow.

  k44mos

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Joined: 11/28/09
Posts: 22

1/28/13 4:53:00 PM#74

 I love how I bought TL2 just to be in the NW beta and I get "two days of closed beta". This is so XTREME that I can't possibly explain it through mere words.

 

 You know what Cryptic? Fuck off.

  Arcona

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Joined: 3/30/04
Posts: 1192

1/28/13 4:53:01 PM#75
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by Grinnz

lol people shell out money all day for "kickstarters" even saw one in this thread......yet  "oh lawdy a founder's pack!!!, OMG this company trying to rob us!!!!"

Actually the arguement is it's overpriced for digital items and services only............no physical anything.

Guess you would have to read the thread.

And how is that any different than digital only rewards from a Kickstarter?  Does it make it okay or a better deal if they mail you a mousepad a sticker?

Funding a game for development is not the same as buying a game package from a game already developed.

Da?

Some of the packages you get on kickstarter are extremely similar :P

A MMO is always in development, they dont stop after release.

Grasping at straws eh?

Is Neverwinter already developed?

  Loktofeit

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1/28/13 5:02:25 PM#76
This preorder pricing stuff is getting interesting.  If devs can sell these $200 top tier packs without any physical product, I can easily that shifting to $200 as top tier digital with a $300 or even $500 boxed edition above it.

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  Hairysun

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Posts: 1068

Boo ....

1/28/13 5:06:49 PM#77
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Not gonna lie... tempted to shell $200 for the Drizzt-alike. :P 

Edit: At least in this case, you're not paying a "Life Sub", just for a lot of perks. The above tongue-emote implies sarcasm by the way. 

Considering your place in the universe, I'd say it's required that you make this purchase.  I don't know if I would share that information with everyone around here however, you know how pissy they get.

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  Battlerock

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1/28/13 5:08:05 PM#78
Ok so really the marketing teams for these mmorpgs need to get real. This "WAS" number one on my watch list, but now it's off the list due to this stupidity. I don't care if this turns out to be the best mmorpg ever made. I will not play it.
  Daxamar

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Posts: 559

1/28/13 5:11:47 PM#79

I was interested. Didnt mind the cash shop thing. There coin has a cool name, Zen. ( for the cash shop)

Now...im not so sure.

  FoeHammerJT

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Joined: 1/07/04
Posts: 149

Knowledge is the enemy of faith.

1/28/13 5:14:13 PM#80
Originally posted by Hairysun
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Not gonna lie... tempted to shell $200 for the Drizzt-alike. :P 

Edit: At least in this case, you're not paying a "Life Sub", just for a lot of perks. The above tongue-emote implies sarcasm by the way. 

Considering your place in the universe, I'd say it's required that you make this purchase.  I don't know if I would share that information with everyone around here however, you know how pissy they get.

People get pissy when they see people with excess disposable income throw it at game companies. Thus raising the prices they too will be required to pay for content they see as less and less valuble. 

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