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  Leucent

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1/28/13 1:24:40 PM#301
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Fangrim
Originally posted by Lawlmonster
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by boxsnd
Not so fast GW2 fan! If in the near future we see other MMOs adopting things like no trinity, the downed mechanic in PvE and PvP, hearts and dynamic events, overflow servers etc then we might say it's influential. Until then, patience.

I can't see any other game, from last year, that other companies will be influenced by. I am happy that there is no trinity as I am bored to death with that simplified game mechanic. It was used a crutch for too long.

Isn't the homogonization of classes into builds that can complete every task necessary in groups just as boring?

Nah,its 10 times more boring.

well, nobody said that you had to like the most influential game of 2012. Of course, that might end up being a problem for you later on if a majority of games started implimenting features, but you probably prefer sandboxes anyhow.

Are you seriously still convincing yourself that this game is all you say it is, or are you so bored of the most influental game, you spend all day and night on these forums. Heres an idea, tell yourself quietly it s truly the best game ever, and i ll continue to tell myself it s the worst game to come out in years.

After an insane weekend of Tier 1 WvW PvP good luck convincing any involved or that actually plays the game that it's the "worst game to come out in years".  You should actually try it before bashing it rather than troll it for whatever reasons.

Played it, hated WvW the most, after playing DAOC again this weekend I realize how crappy of a try it was to be like DAOCs RvR. Other then that I can safely say, SINCE I ACTUALLY PLAYED IT, it s the worst game to come out in years.

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

  Volkon

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Facts do not require fiction for balance.

1/28/13 1:29:19 PM#302
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Oderint, dum metuant.

  RefMinor

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1/28/13 1:31:45 PM#303
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Fangrim
Originally posted by Lawlmonster
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by boxsnd
Not so fast GW2 fan! If in the near future we see other MMOs adopting things like no trinity, the downed mechanic in PvE and PvP, hearts and dynamic events, overflow servers etc then we might say it's influential. Until then, patience.

I can't see any other game, from last year, that other companies will be influenced by. I am happy that there is no trinity as I am bored to death with that simplified game mechanic. It was used a crutch for too long.

Isn't the homogonization of classes into builds that can complete every task necessary in groups just as boring?

Nah,its 10 times more boring.

well, nobody said that you had to like the most influential game of 2012. Of course, that might end up being a problem for you later on if a majority of games started implimenting features, but you probably prefer sandboxes anyhow.

Are you seriously still convincing yourself that this game is all you say it is, or are you so bored of the most influental game, you spend all day and night on these forums. Heres an idea, tell yourself quietly it s truly the best game ever, and i ll continue to tell myself it s the worst game to come out in years.

After an insane weekend of Tier 1 WvW PvP good luck convincing any involved or that actually plays the game that it's the "worst game to come out in years".  You should actually try it before bashing it rather than troll it for whatever reasons.

Played it, hated WvW the most, after playing DAOC again this weekend I realize how crappy of a try it was to be like DAOCs RvR. Other then that I can safely say, SINCE I ACTUALLY PLAYED IT, it s the worst game to come out in years.

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

There's no accounting for taste?

  pioneer08

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Joined: 12/18/12
Posts: 119

1/28/13 1:33:04 PM#304
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Laughing-man

TBH I forget GW2 is even out except when I'm on MMORPG and I see people lauding it for how "amazing" it is.

Cool I guess..  I don't know a single person IRL who has it, I had it and returned it because it was feature imcomplete at the time, they released their game broken with half the things on the box not even in the game.  Real Classy.

GW2, most underwelming game I played.

Did they? What exactly is on the box that you're claiming was not even in the game?

An auction house? 

Working guild invites / perks?

Thats just the two off the top of my head.  Game launched without either, both took over a month to add in.

 

 

The Auction hall was planned the entire time. If you wanted gold the only way to get it was from buying it from the cash shop with real money. This was a way for them to squeeze out as much money as they could at launch. Another key feature not available at launch were the forums this again well a well calculated strategy that prohibited all the bugs and issues to be discussed by the players. There is nothing influential about gw2. I think the fact for the 1st month or two after release any negative comment would have been attacked by the loyal followers. Now its multiple negative to every die hard fan.
  Leucent

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Joined: 1/24/04
Posts: 2452

1/28/13 1:33:45 PM#305
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Lol, it s not lies when it s an opinion.

  Volkon

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Joined: 9/14/10
Posts: 3813

Facts do not require fiction for balance.

1/28/13 2:29:19 PM#306
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Lol, it s not lies when it s an opinion.

 

If you intend to state it as opinion you shouldn't state it as an absolute. Saying "It's the worst game ever" come across like you're trying to state that as fact. If you'd simply said "In my opinion it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played" you'd have found people, like myself, doing no more than agreeing that we disagree on that. 

Oderint, dum metuant.

  RefMinor

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Posts: 3542

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1/28/13 2:39:01 PM#307
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Lol, it s not lies when it s an opinion.

 

If you intend to state it as opinion you shouldn't state it as an absolute. Saying "It's the worst game ever" come across like you're trying to state that as fact. If you'd simply said "In my opinion it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played" you'd have found people, like myself, doing no more than agreeing that we disagree on that. 

It's a forum, do you call people liars when they say its the best game ever, it's all opinions.

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5682

1/28/13 3:24:37 PM#308
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Lol, it s not lies when it s an opinion.

 

If you intend to state it as opinion you shouldn't state it as an absolute. Saying "It's the worst game ever" come across like you're trying to state that as fact. If you'd simply said "In my opinion it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played" you'd have found people, like myself, doing no more than agreeing that we disagree on that. 

It's a forum, do you call people liars when they say its the best game ever, it's all opinions.

I guess that means we get to lie out our ass when it suits us if we can hide behind the shield of opinion, amiright?

And I'm pretty sure any GW2 fanboy gets called a liar anytime they claim GW2 is the best game evar.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  RefMinor

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1/28/13 3:46:45 PM#309
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Lol, it s not lies when it s an opinion.

 

If you intend to state it as opinion you shouldn't state it as an absolute. Saying "It's the worst game ever" come across like you're trying to state that as fact. If you'd simply said "In my opinion it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played" you'd have found people, like myself, doing no more than agreeing that we disagree on that. 

It's a forum, do you call people liars when they say its the best game ever, it's all opinions.

I guess that means we get to lie out our ass when it suits us if we can hide behind the shield of opinion, amiright?

And I'm pretty sure any GW2 fanboy gets called a liar anytime they claim GW2 is the best game evar.

This game has FPS style twitch combat = Lie ( or incorrect information)

This game is the shittiest useless piece of crap in the history of the world ever = Opinion

this game is the most influential game in 2012 = Opinion

  Leucent

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Joined: 1/24/04
Posts: 2452

1/28/13 4:08:10 PM#310
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by botrytis

If it is so bad, as you say, why are so many people playing the game?

It s called an opinion, not hard to understand. If it s such a good game, why are you 4-5 fanbois defending it so much, it shouldn t be needed?

Someone needs to take a break out of the game to fight the lies. We'll let the rest keep on playing.

 

Lol, it s not lies when it s an opinion.

 

If you intend to state it as opinion you shouldn't state it as an absolute. Saying "It's the worst game ever" come across like you're trying to state that as fact. If you'd simply said "In my opinion it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played" you'd have found people, like myself, doing no more than agreeing that we disagree on that. 

Ok, hows this, it s a fact that it s my opinion, it s the worst game in years? Now go play.

  mindw0rk

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1/28/13 4:11:14 PM#311
Dont know about influential part, but it was the most disappointing MMORPG of 2012, thats for sure
  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5682

1/28/13 4:12:07 PM#312
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Volkon

If you intend to state it as opinion you shouldn't state it as an absolute. Saying "It's the worst game ever" come across like you're trying to state that as fact. If you'd simply said "In my opinion it's probably the worst MMO I've ever played" you'd have found people, like myself, doing no more than agreeing that we disagree on that. 

It's a forum, do you call people liars when they say its the best game ever, it's all opinions.

I guess that means we get to lie out our ass when it suits us if we can hide behind the shield of opinion, amiright?

And I'm pretty sure any GW2 fanboy gets called a liar anytime they claim GW2 is the best game evar.

This game has FPS style twitch combat = Lie ( or incorrect information)

This game is the shittiest useless piece of crap in the history of the world ever = Opinion

this game is the most influential game in 2012 = Opinion

Unfortunately not all the lies and opinons are so easily defined.  And you're not being entirely honest about the third point are you.  There is more than one way to call or infer someone is a liar and people who make claims like the third one are most certainly put in their place, or we wouldn't be arguing here would we.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  eyelolled

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OP  1/28/13 4:12:43 PM#313
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Leucent

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Posts: 2452

1/28/13 4:50:40 PM#314
Originally posted by eyelolled
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

Wow, you re so right. Actually, I just give my opinions. Don t care either way, if this game is good or not, or if I m influenced by it or not.

  eyelolled

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OP  1/28/13 5:19:51 PM#315
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

Wow, you re so right. Actually, I just give my opinions. Don t care either way, if this game is good or not, or if I m influenced by it or not.

I think it's perfectly fine that you share your opinions. I'm in no way trying to imply that you shouldn't.

 

The point that I tried to make in the original post, is that it is influential because people talk about it, and have talked about it more than any other game in 2012.  THAT is popularity and/or noteriety. That is influence, and that is the reason for the thread. Add the amount of awards and acclaim that GW2 has received and it's definately ruling the roost for 2012.

 

The thing that I have a hard time understanding, is why people continue to post negative comments about a game that they also claim, is nothing to them.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Leucent

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Posts: 2452

1/28/13 5:32:58 PM#316
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

Wow, you re so right. Actually, I just give my opinions. Don t care either way, if this game is good or not, or if I m influenced by it or not.

I think it's perfectly fine that you share your opinions. I'm in no way trying to imply that you shouldn't.

 

The point that I tried to make in the original post, is that it is influential because people talk about it, and have talked about it more than any other game in 2012.  THAT is popularity and/or noteriety. That is influence, and that is the reason for the thread. Add the amount of awards and acclaim that GW2 has received and it's definately ruling the roost for 2012.

 

The thing that I have a hard time understanding, is why people continue to post negative comments about a game that they also claim, is nothing to them.

Probably the same reason you make a million threads, just to get people chatting about the oh so influential game.

  eyelolled

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OP  1/28/13 6:00:40 PM#317
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

Wow, you re so right. Actually, I just give my opinions. Don t care either way, if this game is good or not, or if I m influenced by it or not.

I think it's perfectly fine that you share your opinions. I'm in no way trying to imply that you shouldn't.

 

The point that I tried to make in the original post, is that it is influential because people talk about it, and have talked about it more than any other game in 2012.  THAT is popularity and/or noteriety. That is influence, and that is the reason for the thread. Add the amount of awards and acclaim that GW2 has received and it's definately ruling the roost for 2012.

 

The thing that I have a hard time understanding, is why people continue to post negative comments about a game that they also claim, is nothing to them.

Probably the same reason you make a million threads, just to get people chatting about the oh so influential game.

well if I made a million threads you might have a point, except that I bet that I haven't made 20 GW2 threads since launch. Go ahead and look so you can prove me right.

 

And hey, thanks for your input in the thread.  

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Leucent

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1/28/13 6:14:03 PM#318
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

Wow, you re so right. Actually, I just give my opinions. Don t care either way, if this game is good or not, or if I m influenced by it or not.

I think it's perfectly fine that you share your opinions. I'm in no way trying to imply that you shouldn't.

 

The point that I tried to make in the original post, is that it is influential because people talk about it, and have talked about it more than any other game in 2012.  THAT is popularity and/or noteriety. That is influence, and that is the reason for the thread. Add the amount of awards and acclaim that GW2 has received and it's definately ruling the roost for 2012.

 

The thing that I have a hard time understanding, is why people continue to post negative comments about a game that they also claim, is nothing to them.

Probably the same reason you make a million threads, just to get people chatting about the oh so influential game.

well if I made a million threads you might have a point, except that I bet that I haven't made 20 GW2 threads since launch. Go ahead and look so you can prove me right.

 

And hey, thanks for your input in the thread.  

Recently you ve been relentless. You seem to be trying to stir up chat. Good and bad.

  waynejr2

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1/28/13 6:17:23 PM#319
Originally posted by eyelolled

There should be no doubt that GW2 was the most influential mmorpg of 2012. Many people were talking about how the game is evolutionary, and a welcome breath of fresh air to the genre. It's won multiple awards like IGN's Best PC Game, IGN's Best PC MMO game, IGN's Best PC Graphics, Massively's Best MMO of 2012, MMORPG.com Most Innovative, Gamespots PC game of the year, Time' s #1 game of the year, and more recently PCGamer's MMO of the Year! There is no denying that GW2 has grabbed a lot of attention, and the loyal fanbase is growing each and every day!

 

GW2 is the most talked about game on this site still, even after almost 5 months since release. It's the most talked about game this week, and the most talked about game this month. GW2 has more than 3 times as many hits as the next closest game over the last 6 months, and more than 3 times as many hits as the next closest game over the last year.

 

[mod edit] [My edit to maintain paragraph integrity - Some people post negatively about GW2 yet,] I want to thank them too. They really prove how influential the game is. People don't write and talk about meaningless things of little importance. People write and talk  about things that affect them or concern them. Each and every thread, each and every reply is another hit on the popularity scale for GW2.

 

Each post is a testiment to the influence that GW2 has within the genre, even if it is a hate post. This game IS the game worth talking about, and when developers are looking for what games to follow into the future, the most talked about game is a good choice.  I look forward to a brilliant future for mmorpg's, with GW2 lighting the way.

 

EDIT: And if you feel like arguing with me, and telling me I'm wrong, or if you feel like telling me how much you like the game. Keep on speaking. Keep on saying how you feel and lets keep GW2 leading the way through 2013!!!

 

   

 Influential?  I don't see it. Might take a few years to see if it changes the industry.

Why do poeple need to elevate games up to some legendary level?  What do you get out of this?

  eyelolled

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OP  1/28/13 6:42:38 PM#320
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by eyelolled
It's also a fact that you are compelled to comment on GW2. Just like so many other people and its not because its a meaningless game but because you were influenced by it in some way.

Wow, you re so right. Actually, I just give my opinions. Don t care either way, if this game is good or not, or if I m influenced by it or not.

I think it's perfectly fine that you share your opinions. I'm in no way trying to imply that you shouldn't.

 

The point that I tried to make in the original post, is that it is influential because people talk about it, and have talked about it more than any other game in 2012.  THAT is popularity and/or noteriety. That is influence, and that is the reason for the thread. Add the amount of awards and acclaim that GW2 has received and it's definately ruling the roost for 2012.

 

The thing that I have a hard time understanding, is why people continue to post negative comments about a game that they also claim, is nothing to them.

Probably the same reason you make a million threads, just to get people chatting about the oh so influential game.

well if I made a million threads you might have a point, except that I bet that I haven't made 20 GW2 threads since launch. Go ahead and look so you can prove me right.

 

And hey, thanks for your input in the thread.  

Recently you ve been relentless. You seem to be trying to stir up chat. Good and bad.

relentless?! 2 threads is relentless?

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

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