Originally posted by StarI

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by StarI

This game does NOT look sandbox too me either.

People will still call it a sandbox tho.

I've seen people call GW2 and similar games a sandbox. Please.

So I generaly understand some are confused and want AoW to be one as well.

But to be fair and reconcile, I'd call it a hybrid.

AoW and GW2 in the same sentence is like saying WoW and SWG in the same. 

 

Yes, for your first couple hours of the tutorial AoW is a linear, hand holding themepark. 

Good, as I can't see where I mentioned both in the same sentence. And neither have I compared those two. I however compared the mentality behind people calling games sandbox even tho the said games are not sandbox - pointing out that some would probably call even WoW a sandbox, and that under this light it's rather easy to understand AoW has been and will be called out as a sandbox by some players.

I think those fan goggles you wear are getting thicker. ;-)

I've had my boxing gloves on since lastnigh ;)

Originally posted by LadyEuphei

I agree it is not a sandbox. I would classify it as a sandpark. There are little "sandboxs" that give you a little bit of a sandbox feel, but they are not all interconnected. There is a support structure of a themepark which hold your hand and takes you over to each sandbox so you can build a castle or whatever, then it takes your hand and guides you over to another one. That is my look on it.

Not a bad game, but not a sandbox. This is a sandpark in my opinion.

Explain what your talking about in game terms. 

Maybe people are saying it's a blend because it has themepark elements added in? If you put space dungeons in EVE would it be a themepark?

Originally posted by tyfon

I agree.

It's not sandbox, but it has sandbox elements.

But who cares about the definition.. It's fun :)

Almost every game has sandbox elements, but I agree with you as there is no official sandbox mmorpg definition.

Bottom line is always fun.

Originally posted by DMKano

Originally posted by tyfon

I agree.

It's not sandbox, but it has sandbox elements.

But who cares about the definition.. It's fun :)

Almost every game has sandbox elements, but I agree with you as there is no official sandbox mmorpg definition.

Bottom line is always fun.

It's not a themepark, but it has themepark elements? I'm trying to find middle ground here...

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by LadyEuphei

I agree it is not a sandbox. I would classify it as a sandpark. There are little "sandboxs" that give you a little bit of a sandbox feel, but they are not all interconnected. There is a support structure of a themepark which hold your hand and takes you over to each sandbox so you can build a castle or whatever, then it takes your hand and guides you over to another one. That is my look on it.

Not a bad game, but not a sandbox. This is a sandpark in my opinion.

Explain what your talking about in game terms. 

 

Maybe people are saying it's a blend because it has themepark elements added in? If you put space dungeons in EVE would it be a themepark?

This is it, I have to react to this...How the hell you bring Eve to the argument you cant compare eve with a asian milkthecawcashshopgame that tries to ripyouofflikecasinosdo.

You know I give up call it sandbox all you want and go pay your paycheck to that chinese pos.

Originally posted by SQTO
I dont care what you people call it , I am having fun.

The above statement is the only thing that matters. If you enjoy it - great and have fun. If you don't like it - move on and play some other game.

Why do folks seem to think there has to be a set rule for sandboxes?  And what's this sandpark nonsense?  When sandboxes were "all the rage" we all clammored for more "content," and when we got it people began to say, "That's not really a sandbox.  It's more a sandpark!"

Ok, ok getting on a tangent there.  I think a lot of people don't truely like sandboxes in the first place.  Unless you're an Eve player or a player of some of the lesser known titles, there's not a lot out there that isn't considered "Old."  

Saga of Ryzom

SWG

Eve

Salem

Second Life

Those are a few examples of  sandboxes.  All are / were very different in approach and design.  Typically there is no hand-holding in sandboxes.  No colored paths and arrown pointing you to the next goal.  The key to a good sandbox is community interdependence.  There's a reason SWG only allowed one character per server for example.  The end-user experience in a sandbox is totally dependent on his or her interactions with their peers.  In other words, the entire point of it being "sandbox" in the first place is that the content, economy, and experience is player made and driven.

/soapbox off

:P

Greatest sandbox ever!..

Pick one school..stay with it forever...no option to change. Impressive freedom...cough..

UUU..and quest....must do quest...what other choice...quest forever.  And after 10 posts of "fanboys" keeping their little dream theme...err...sandpack...box! box!. You know what? DO another 10 posts. Because it's just a sandbox with quests right?

Yeaaa....themebox....

Damn...can't attack this guy...because the game won't let me..why...because..just because.

I don't want to join any school!! ANY! Be free...murder anyone...but I can't, because this is a sandbox....ow...wait....what?

/sarcasm OFF

This game is a sandbox as much as I am the King of China.

If schools were removed, quest done in an "optional way of playing"(like EVE)...then it could have been a sandbox....hmm...maybe. And come on, that NPC can definetly fetch that bread from the cook...really....

I bet I can play LOTRO without touching any quest at all...does that make it a sandbox?...

Good game though...but not a sandbox, you are pretty much forced into a direction.

Originally posted by Deleted User

Originally posted by Onomas

You dont have to do quests lol. Nor do you even have to kill anything to level up in this game.

And who says quests arent in sandbox games? Every sandbox i have played from my first to this has had quests, story, and more. THink people are working too hard to try to claim it as a themepark like they are doing with Archeage.

People need to go read up on sandboxes and then understand anything themepark can easily be in a sandbox, and doesnt make it a hybrid or a themepark. Since a sandbox does everything a themepark does and then some.

 

There is no clear cut way a sandbox has to be, long as there is freedom, choice, and openess. Which AOW has.

How this game differs from all the asian free2play trash out there cause I didn't see any difference.

Also prepare to pay mad money cause its a PvP game and cashshop heavy.

 I dont get excited one iota about any MMos anymore...The reason why is that they all display the same pattern: Game announces beta, game releases minute details that are most likely not even accurate, players conjecture what they think the game is going to be like, players get into beta and realize it is nothing like what they think, game gets paaned mercilessly and is nothing new to the genre.