Originally posted by Nitth

 

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Originally posted by Xese
Considering enjoyability and technical limitations of each, which would you prefer?

 

a) Co-op style online play that is not a true MMO. May have hubs where players can meet and drop into instances for Co-op play up to 5 players, such as in the first GW, PoE, and so on. The content, loot and so on will scale with the number and level of players.

b) A true MMO style, where thousands of players may be on one server, hundreds of people may potentially take down a boss, raid, or PvP? Content may or may not scale to the number of participating squares. Such as in WoW, GW2.

Personally I would have prefered the first one, with simple hubs enabling co-op play, if Bethesda's next Elder Scrolls game had this feature I would probably drop the MMO-ESO on the spot. I think a simple co-op style will enable more dynamic content and combat. Also, it would feel natural if there were one or two people saving the world in an Elder Scrolls game, but it would feel lame if there were thousands of people who saved the world.

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People really need to use out of the box thinking...

IF everyone thought their perfect game was like your ideal game, would they still be thinking outside of this so called box?

Originally posted by sapphen

Originally posted by Vunak23

Neither, why do people have to try and make a game into something its not? Either you like the game for what it is or you don't. 

Also OP, you have to remember this isn't Bethesda doing this game; its Zenimax Online. They aren't stopping the single players games and you might still get a Co-Op from them (doubt it).  

Screw that, it's the developers who shouldn't make a game into something it's not.  I understand you guys are 'getting sick' of players whining and complaining but ESO is a poor representation of the Elder Scrolls series.   We have a right to voice our opinion and frustrations, just like you jolly souls get to run around praising it.

I'm a massive TES fan, have been for over a decade, my friends are all pretty much TES fans too, my sister is a TES fan, as are her friends, and we are ALL very much looking forward to this new TES game, what gives you a special right to call this a poor representation?

I know you dont like that your restricted by faction, get over it, it aint likely to change now and its not like they havent added restrictions to the IP before, if restricting where you can go makes it not elder scrolls then there hasnt been an elder scrolls game since arena

None of those choices.

I am extremely excited for the game as announced seeing as it offers many of the elements that make games like Skyrim and Morrowind the ultimate RPG while combing it with all the great things about Dark Age of Camelot.

Dark Age of Skyrim......yea I like it!!!!!!!!!

I hope ,they  ll add pvp DAOC gameplay elements

Only pvp in TES universe, is what I looking in ESO,coz I know it ll be different game(gameplay) from TES SP games

if ESO is mmorpg,instancing must to be limited,give us large grouping,open world...

At final, I know they  heavily mistake with factional & class limitations , but I wish best for ESO

Originally posted by Xese

b) A true MMO style, where thousands of players may be on one server, hundreds of people may potentially take down a boss, raid, or PvP? Content may or may not scale to the number of participating squares. Such as in WoW, GW2.

 I would go with B if you hadnt of limited it to WoW, GW2...why not SWG or Asherons Call?

TES is more sandbox than themepark...and yes, it is, it was made to allow easy modding which is 100% sandbox, then there is the scale factor that allows you to go anywhere in the world at any level which is...sandbox, non-rail gaming.

So, my choice is MMO, sandbox MMO so its actually TES, not just a TES skin.

Originally posted by deakon

Originally posted by sapphen

Screw that, it's the developers who shouldn't make a game into something it's not.  I understand you guys are 'getting sick' of players whining and complaining but ESO is a poor representation of the Elder Scrolls series.   We have a right to voice our opinion and frustrations, just like you jolly souls get to run around praising it.

I'm a massive TES fan, have been for over a decade, my friends are all pretty much TES fans too, my sister is a TES fan, as are her friends, and we are ALL very much looking forward to this new TES game, what gives you a special right to call this a poor representation?

I know you dont like that your restricted by faction, get over it, it aint likely to change now and its not like they havent added restrictions to the IP before, if restricting where you can go makes it not elder scrolls then there hasnt been an elder scrolls game since arena

What gives you and your posse a special right to call yourselves TES fans? 

I don't have to get over restricted factions.  I can keep saying it as loud as I want; "ESO abandoned core aspects of the TES series in favor of commonly used MMO features".  They are only using this IP to rehash their vision of DAoC.

It is both our rights to voice our opinions on this game and I will continue to do so.

Originally posted by sapphen

Originally posted by deakon

I'm a massive TES fan, have been for over a decade, my friends are all pretty much TES fans too, my sister is a TES fan, as are her friends, and we are ALL very much looking forward to this new TES game, what gives you a special right to call this a poor representation?

I know you dont like that your restricted by faction, get over it, it aint likely to change now and its not like they havent added restrictions to the IP before, if restricting where you can go makes it not elder scrolls then there hasnt been an elder scrolls game since arena

What gives you and your posse a special right to call yourselves TES fans? 

I don't have to get over restricted factions.  I can keep saying it as loud as I want; "ESO abandoned core aspects of the TES series in favor of commonly used MMO features".  They are only using this IP to rehash their vision of DAoC.

It is both our rights to voice our opinions on this game and I will continue to do so.

 We all know why people feel the need to lend credit to their opinion.

Those of us, like you and me, voice our complaints...because we know the opinion is valid, its OURS. TESO isnt in beta yet, we still have time to wake the Devs up but it will only be done if the drones wake up and speak out. Then again, as long as there are just enough people out there willing to bend over and take one up the backside, buy the game no matter how much of it is a bastardization of the IP....companies will continue to do these things for a quick profit...SWTOR may have been a quick to F2P to save it, but companies will still go that route to sucker money out of as many as possible and then run as long as there are just enough consumers who will basically blindly buy anything and do a pawn sacrifice to defend it full hilt no matter what.

I too, concur. Neither.

Since we all get to voice an opinion on the matter, here is mine.

Step 1

Drop this whole MMO, and rpg nonsense. Let's make this baby a F2P first person shooter with Elder Scrolls lore. But instead of swords and magic, everybody gets a machine gun. If you're an orc, you start with a BFG.

Step 2

???????

Step 3

Profit

No but seriously, I wanted this game to be a full loot pvp based game ala Mortal Online, or perhaps Darfall. Put the elder scrolls lore in, let everyone pick a character, enter tamriel, and build, conquer, destroy, form alliances, etc.

Alas, this genre seems to put off the main stream gamer. Pity.

Originally posted by sapphen

Originally posted by deakon

Originally posted by sapphen

Screw that, it's the developers who shouldn't make a game into something it's not.  I understand you guys are 'getting sick' of players whining and complaining but ESO is a poor representation of the Elder Scrolls series.   We have a right to voice our opinion and frustrations, just like you jolly souls get to run around praising it.

I'm a massive TES fan, have been for over a decade, my friends are all pretty much TES fans too, my sister is a TES fan, as are her friends, and we are ALL very much looking forward to this new TES game, what gives you a special right to call this a poor representation?

I know you dont like that your restricted by faction, get over it, it aint likely to change now and its not like they havent added restrictions to the IP before, if restricting where you can go makes it not elder scrolls then there hasnt been an elder scrolls game since arena

What gives you and your posse a special right to call yourselves TES fans? 

I don't have to get over restricted factions.  I can keep saying it as loud as I want; "ESO abandoned core aspects of the TES series in favor of commonly used MMO features".  They are only using this IP to rehash their vision of DAoC.

It is both our rights to voice our opinions on this game and I will continue to do so.

You keep saying that yet they are using the combat system from tes games, you can use any item like in tes games, theres skill based leveling like in tes games, and you are going to have access to more areas than you have in any tes game since arena

Theres plenty of tes in this game even without mentioning law so saying its just daoc2 with the tes ip is plainly not true

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Neither of those, prefer what they are actually doing compared to those 2 choices.

Same here.

Originally posted by deakon

You keep saying that yet they are using the combat system from tes games, you can use any item like in tes games, theres skill based leveling like in tes games, and you are going to have access to more areas than you have in any tes game since arena

Theres plenty of tes in this game even without mentioning law so saying its just daoc2 with the tes ip is plainly not true

You do know that originally they had tab targeting and no first person view?  It was only after some people starting complaining that they added it in.  They did put a little effort to add some elements but it was more of an after thought.  I would've rather had an Elder Scrolls MMO than a MMO-ize version of Elder Scrolls.

Oh and I am not satisfied with being thrown a bone, there is a whole world there and we should be able to explore it - that is the Elder Scrolls way.  There was no need to limit players in this way.