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1/26/13 7:16:39 PM#21
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Little? The in game population has continuously dropped since release.
I'd prefer to see $15.00 sub, free expansions, and something similar to the PLEX system in EVE, or they could be the first to release a true B2P game (no cash shop) with paid expansions. |
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Originally posted by Icewhite Immaterial means that basically any kind of business model would not affect your game choice. Isnt there really anything related to business model that may influence you not to buy a game? I personally do not consider business model to be on the same level of importance as the game principles, mechanisms, etc, but I would not go as far as saying that it is immaterial. I can imagine that a really bad cash shop would have the potential to drive me away from a game. Different people, different materiality I guess. Playing: Nothing atm My game concept thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/369707 (any feedback appreciated) |
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Originally posted by Tayah Exactly my thoughts. Playing: Nothing atm My game concept thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/369707 (any feedback appreciated) |
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1/27/13 5:07:49 AM#24
Box price + sub, because everything else would end in a still birth. It doesn't matter if it's only for cosmetic items, once there is a cash shop I won't waste my time with this game. God knows it will at some point change for the worse. (or worst, depends on how you see it) It'll be heartbreaking for me, but so it is. That's only how I see it, nobody is gonna change my opinion so don't waste your time, I know many people think otherwise and I respect it.
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Robokapp
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Joined: 11/15/09
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1/27/13 5:12:12 AM#25
as long as there's no cash shop I don't care.
TEAM SUBSCRIPTION. P2P > P2W. |
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1/27/13 8:18:49 AM#26
A MMORPG with emphasis on PvP should allways be subscription-based and not have a cashshop other then a pure cosmetical one. |
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1/27/13 7:31:45 PM#27
Box + Sub ..!
That^ is the only way to launch a legitimate MMORPG. The community must support them enough to not only buy the game (Box), but know ans willing to support a subscription to this MMORPG, as fee for playing in their persistant world. To be part of the story... $20/month fee shouldn't be hard for anyone, but the most youngest.
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1/27/13 7:36:52 PM#28
This should be obvious, first I would like to try the game, if I like and/or love it, I will buy a subscription, otherwise I will gladly pay for certain things that I do enjoy. But first I need to enjoy the game, if is sucks ass, why the hell would I pay to figure that out? I promise I will not pay, without a trial. Game developers need to prove to me as a paying customer that their game is better and worth paying for. Hype is bullshit, trials are where it is at. I want this game to be awesome, everything I've read and seen is awesome. So please don't Fuk this up by being stupid. Sincerely, Me! |
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1/28/13 1:40:11 AM#29
I'm for subscription option only if the game is worth paying a sub for, F2P seems to attract the trash and dregs of the MMORPG world . A game like this shouldn't even really need a cash shop with the extensive list of features I'd rather the cash shop stay out of the game as well cause we all know once a shop is there most of the development time is wasted on new cash shop crap that could've been content or new features to make your game better. |
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1/28/13 2:49:45 AM#30
I'm hoping for a sub, because it tends to keep the most poisonous crowd out. If it has sub, I also hope any cash shop is 100% cosmetic only AND all the items are also obtainable by playing (grinding).
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1/28/13 3:56:01 AM#31
I'm all for a payment and server hybrid model if possible. 1. A Box + Sub servers, with no shop. 2. "Free" servers, doesn't matter to me if it is some kind of pay2win, box + shop or freemium. Playing: EVE Online Used to play for 5+ years: Lineage 2, Lord of the Rings Online and Ragnarok Online Utter disappointing MMO experience for 1 - 3 Months: |
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1/28/13 8:07:19 AM#32
I would say free to play model would be best for the health of the game. A box price is quite a bit of a hurdle to overcome in today's market. Guild Wars 2 was able to do it with the build up of years of hype and the fact they had a previous game release during a time period when there wasn't much competition in the market. ArcheAge is going to go up against Elder Scrolls and the next Everquest, and that is a tough battle just from the competition's name recognition. If they did a free to play model, they could still offer a founder' pack and would likely sell nearly as many of those as any retail box.
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1/28/13 8:14:04 AM#33
F2P for levels 1-20 then if you want to continue box price plus sub. But I'd settle for the current GW2/TSW model.
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1/28/13 9:51:29 AM#34
f2p model is not about AA. f2p will kill this game very fast . its unlimited work points / thongs of bots /poor prices at auction-house and more ... |
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The poll indicates that most people want the game to go with Box Price + Subscription (No Cash Shop) It was my choice in the poll as well. The reasons for subscription stated by people in this thread seem to be mostly reasonable. Second most popular option is Box price + Cash shop I assume that this business model would generate lower profit, so that it is less likely they will go without subs. If they are confident their game can attract and hold player base large enough then they will most likely go with subs like they did in Asia in order to maximize profit. This is just my estimate based on assumption that the game will be successful and will have large player base. Playing: Nothing atm My game concept thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/369707 (any feedback appreciated) |
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1/29/13 5:55:42 AM#36
Box price + Sub NO CASH SHOP..
My 3D models |
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1/29/13 11:17:29 PM#37
I want B2P or Cheaper sub fee of 5$ a month.
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1/31/13 12:19:54 PM#38
Your poll misses out the business model of the future. That's TSW model. Box Price + Optional Sub for content or purchase what extra content you want via cash shop.
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Originally posted by jdnyc I dont. There is "Other" ;) Playing: Nothing atm My game concept thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/369707 (any feedback appreciated) |
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1/31/13 1:15:41 PM#40
Box price + Sub + fluff cash shop or Box price + Sub
Gladly pay a sub for worthwhile game to play. |
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