That being said; yes on open world pvp, mofo space pvp and why can I still not link stuff, like webpages, in chat? 

The game's great. Let the haters hate hate hate hate

Originally posted by Latronus

Originally posted by RefMinor
I want to sit in a chair.

You can and always have been able to on your ship.  Oh, never made it that far in game, not my fault troll.  If that's all that matters to you, then maybe you need to out the SIMS.  Fixing fame rate issues and make the game feel more alive would have been a better complaint.

I was serious, it would make the cantina's into far more social hubs, but then hey that might turn it into an MMO. Great on Bioware for allowing you to sit in a chair in an instance, that really helps. The animation is absolutely shit if your character has a robe/cloak too.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by BadOrb

 Must be a very popular game still , to either bash or praise.

It would still get as many posts even if it was a thread stating how SWG or CoH can own 2013. All 3 have as much chance as owning 2013 ;)

SWTOR is popular for discussions, just not popular for playing

It may have had less and more constructive feedback if the title said something like "What SWTOR needs to do to own 2013" Maybe that is what the OP is after, but what I took it as and many others did seem to as well, was that SWTOR looks good to own 2013, but not really, not the direction it is going at the moment. They are still just recycling content already done. STO has more chance of owning 2013, with Season 8 and Season 9 slated already for 2013, and Season 6 and Season 7 already in game since June 2012, when Makeb and everything else was brought up. So by the time STO releases Season 8, that will be 3 loads of content whereas SWTOR would have only had one - Makeb.

 

Hmmm SWTOR is more popular in playing then any game you have mentioned that is better then SWTOR in your poster profile.

Whatever you are smoking Mike, I was some of it lol.

In all seriousness there is no way that SWTOR will do better in 2013. Ship has sailed, you have a very small window of pleasing mmo players. There is no such thing as an mmo that recovers after the 2nd year or 3rd year. It just doesn't happen, even if your name has "Star Wars" in it.

Originally posted by ignore_me

They might want to address the horrible frame-rates many users get even on high end systems. I would have given free to play more of a chance if the game could get above 20-25 fps on my rig.  

[post launch I never had frame-rate issues with this game save on Ilum. They have done something that messed up the performance. I turned off advanced shadows etc., no effect.]

people are STILL having issues with that? WHA? I thought they killed that bug 6 months ago.

Originally posted by Aeonblades

I could not agree more. F2P games have destroyed the already fragile community of most MMO's. It's really disgraceful to think F2P players have a say in development of features in a lot of games. I will say the only MMO I have really seen handle the F2P transition and maintain a decent community is EQ1, but that game has such a core fan base I'm pretty sure most people know everyone on their server by now.

 And THAT is why Subs are dieing.

Old, outdated, ignorant, clueless opinions based on not knowing WTF the real world is like. Companies still making sub games are out of touch with the gaming world which is why there hasnt been a single decent sub game in YEARS. EA, Sony, NCSoft, Nexon, Funcom, Turbine have all said it...subscription based games are an old, outdate idea with no real world examples of being more profitable or better in any way shape or form.

DEAL WITH IT. Go log into one of the few MMOs that still have subs and hide your head in the sand while far more gamers around the world have even more fun in their F2P games knowing their will be around far longer than yours.

Originally posted by jtcgs

 And THAT is why Subs are dieing.

Old, outdated, ignorant, clueless opinions based on not knowing WTF the real world is like. Companies still making sub games are out of touch with the gaming world which is why there hasnt been a single decent sub game in YEARS. EA, Sony, NCSoft, Nexon, Funcom, Turbine have all said it...subscription based games are an old, outdate idea with no real world examples of being more profitable or better in any way shape or form.

DEAL WITH IT. Go log into one of the few MMOs that still have subs and hide your head in the sand while far more gamers around the world have even more fun in their F2P games knowing their will be around far longer than yours.

Huh ? Your logic is flawed. The old games still around have hybrid models or are sub-based. You have the option of playing à la carte (and paying more to unlock things), or paying a sub still. If you are a serious fan of the game, chances are you will still be paying a subscription. The hybrid model just gives you a choice about how you want to pay.

Most true fans of a game will not be completely non-paying customers.

Originally posted by Coolit

SWTOR will never own 2013 but if they want to have more of an impact in 2013 Bioware/EA need to address the terrible F2P model; it's quite possibly the worst F2P conversion I've ever seen.

 

Odd....I can't think of any so-called f2p model that is worth what you are paying. Wait...paying...free to play....somehow those two terms are at odds with one another aren't they?

- Remove the Origin-like spyware within this game (FYI, this game has the same sh*t as Origin, despite of not using Origin)

- Add neutral items for those who care about the story of their characters. Not everyone want to be like "oh, me Sith, me kill, Kill, kill, kill!!!" or "Oh, poor little thing, poor little empire soldier, oh, poor butterfly.... I'm going to cry"

- Avoid making a expansion that you need to pay in order to play it. We already pay each month, that should be enough. There are many games whose expansions are free. Only wow and swtor come to my mind in terms of greed.

I am NOT trying to be a jerk to any of the fans who play and enjoy the game, good on you... I'm just saying the title makes me think:

"How SWTOR can OWN ...5 years ago."