Originally posted by Slapshot1188
2.5 years since release and reviews still talk about "potential"? Fair point

This ship has long since sailed... its time to look to the promising next generation of fantasy sandbox MMOs. There's the rub. What are those? And since they are the "promising next generation" what's tos say they live up to those promises any better than MO.

Originally posted by Hodo

Originally posted by Doomtec

However, the truth is that even with the bugs, MO is still the best damn sandbox MMORPG since SWG.

 

Edit: the author also failed to apparently notice the "lore" button associated with each race, cannot count to 5, and does not know how to optimise his rig.

 

Playing this game on Ultra settings, on a mid-range PC with smooth framerates.

 

It really sounds like the "reviewer" hurriedly rolled a character, muched about in Tindrem Garden for 30 minutes, and then wrote this innacurate slop. Typical MMORPG.com trash.

 

 

 

LOL the reviewer was actually pretty much spot on from what I have heard from the few people I know who were day 1 players who went back when it went f2p.  

 

Oh, and what cup are you drinking out of, MO is the best MMORPG since SWG?   I only want to know so I dont drink it.   I like living in reality.  

 

ah, so you're basing your opinion off from what you've "heard" eh? See, I am basing mine off from actual experience with the game.

Come back when you know what you're talking about.

gotta love this site. bunch of people jumping on the bash bandwagon, talking shit about a game they have never played, in response to a "review" of the tutorial area.

Originally posted by jadedlevir

Originally posted by Jacxolope

Originally posted by jadedlevir

This review is very flawed imo. Seems like a fair score, but please explaine how SWtor gets 8/10 innovation and this game gets 6/10?

Did you even craft in this game, or join a guild? I have to seirously wonder how far you got into the game? After reading the review, it doesn't seem like you did much of anything. Anyone could have gathered what you were saying in less than an hour of gameplay.

You didn't comment on territory control, the unique minin/extracting stystem, thieving/lockpicking, player housing, sieging, dominating, any of the on-going world events...

In fact, you don't seem to take in consideration anything that the game offers. Even commenting that which race you pick is irrelevant. This leads me to believe you didn't do much of anything except the tutorial than leave. Now that i think about it,  ALL of your screenshots come from the tindrem garden tutorial area...

If you're going to review a game you should at least play it to it's fullest for a reasonable amount of time by joining a guild and trying out the different mechanics the game has to offer before you offer blanket generalities that dont review anything about the game besides for it's graphics and polish.

-I agree witht he "Innovation" comment.

But does all the other things you listed work and/or matter? (serious question)

I too never really got far past the noob area- But I had seen enough. Why does Housing matter , why does TC matter? Everything I have read/heard says there is no point to either and you cannot even decorate or otherwise make your house unique (plus you can be attacked through walls and spawns can be in your Home)

Those features sound cool - If there is a point to any of it... Like in UO there was alot to do with housing and was one of my favorite things (Hell, I played EQ2 forever because of the fun I had decorating my House and running a shop)

I saw quite of few people (and talked t them) who played for a very short amount of time since if the Bugs were this bad (and server this unstable) in the noob area- What can we expect in the rest of the game?

I am asking these things Honestly. If there is a point to any of that stuff you listed- Cool. But if its just cobbled together and bugged out features mainly listed to say "we have this, this, this and this you can do"- Its kind of pointless.

This is quite the ridiculous comment. How can you write a review and expect to to be taken seriously if you haven't even tried  the features the game has to offer --  that you also happen to be reviewing.

Houses don't have much usage besides for actual productivity in gathering, hunting, nd of course roleplay through the use of player made villages. For example, you can build a house in a resource rich area then work out of your house, as people do quite often. With a butchery table, or mining and extracting, or regearing fighters for example. There's even a guild in the game that lives entirely out of a player village(not including keeps and palisade that add an entirely different dnyamic) that they built themselves using housing. You could build a keep, freely place towers to a town, take control over it and tax all the property under you control. No, you can't decorate them, and they could have more functionality, but how can you write a review without even taking something like this into consideration.

Like i said, this review is flawed. It minus well be a review of the tutorial.

 

And how long does it typically take to gather the materials, tools, required skills and various other sundries to build even a modest house? Now how long would it take a NEWBIE player to do it? Its a review jackass, they arent going to play the game for 6 months to get enough stuff to build a house just to add it in the review.

Broken shit is broken shit. Im sick and tired of you MO fanbois praising this game and suckering people into spending money on BROKEN FUCKING SHIT. This game is trash and all SV has done is bullshit customers out of money for the last 2 1/2 years.

Take a look around these boards. There is a REASON there is a TON of bad press about this game and the development studio behind it. They both suck.

Originally posted by Doomtec

gotta love this site. bunch of people jumping on the bash bandwagon, talking shit about a game they have never played, in response to a "review" of the tutorial area.

 

I played way back in alpha beta and a total of 4 reactivates over the last 2 years. I talk shit because I have first hand experience with how BAD this product, and its fanbois', are.

Hows that AI coming along? Did'nt they promise that 3 YEARS ago? ROFL!!!!

Did they ever get around to coding their own patcher, or are they still using the one that was written and donated by a player because Starvault was too inept to code one themselves?? LOL!

P.S. You might have a little more credibility if your account was more than a month old. Just sayin'

Originally posted by Lahuzer

And 6/10 innovation is nothing but a joke.

How is it a joke? On scale WoW to Minecraft it seems to be fair to rate it somewhere in the middle. Only because you are doing something different or more complex (crafting) does not mean you innovate, MO still falls under the medieval fantasy genre with typical features to it, even if done in a different way. 

A trully innovative title (chosing from available) would be a game like minecraft, LOVE, Otherland, Endless Forest, Puzzlepirates, EvE, UO. Those are titles that stand out from the generic fantasy wow formula.

Originally posted by Doomtec

gotta love this site. bunch of people jumping on the bash bandwagon, talking shit about a game they have never played, in response to a "review" of the tutorial area.

 No bandwagon don't creat false narratives to fit your fanboi broken game. We have played this game from BETA and spent more time in game watching corrupt GM's than you'll ever know. Back to the safe MO forums where any posts exposing the dodgy SV practices are banned. Goodbye.

 

 

I like how on the MO forums if you point out a corrupt GM or a broken mechanic in the game you're banned yet posts like this are promoted and even "Liked" by GM's....

"SV shoved a dildo up his ass. Every time he sits down, he feels inclined to badmouth MO on public forums."  <<< That's their response to the facts people like Slapshot point out. Says it all really.

6.2 is a pretty generous rating. Much more generous than I would of been you can be sure

Maybe I'm bitter from being lied to by this company, or the fact that I gave into there lies for so long. For all you old time MO'ers...Sausage Lake anyone?

@slapshot::

Hmmm. I was hoping for an actual response. What are those games?  The only one I have significant hopes for is WoD onlinem but that is still well over the horizon. What other  games should I be keeping an eye on?

@hackzor "IS not a free to play is a unlimited Trial  they liee people :(" --- That is what they call a distinction without a difference.

Originally posted by Doomtec

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Doomtec

However, the truth is that even with the bugs, MO is still the best damn sandbox MMORPG since SWG.

 

Should always add "in my opinion" with a statement like that in regards to games like MO because most would disagree. 

 

This is MMORPG.com, where "most" wouldn't know a good game if it hit them in the face.

This is MMORPG.com The Honey Boo Boo Child of MMO Journalism.

Originally posted by Doomtec

gotta love this site. bunch of people jumping on the bash bandwagon, talking shit about a game they have never played, in response to a "review" of the tutorial area.

There are those of us here on that "bash bandwagon" who have played it, were expecting a game that wasn't shit, and have been sorely disappointed by SV's unprofessionalism and their ability to deceive players. There's nothing to defend.

Originally posted by Toferio

Originally posted by Lahuzer



And 6/10 innovation is nothing but a joke.

How is it a joke? On scale WoW to Minecraft it seems to be fair to rate it somewhere in the middle. Only because you are doing something different or more complex (crafting) does not mean you innovate, MO still falls under the medieval fantasy genre with typical features to it, even if done in a different way. 

A trully innovative title (chosing from available) would be a game like minecraft, LOVE, Otherland, Endless Forest, Puzzlepirates, EvE, UO. Those are titles that stand out from the generic fantasy wow formula.

 

I think Sebastian Persson, one of MOs devs answered it best. So I quote him.

"Looks fairly fair but, innovation 6/10?

Ya, first person only MMO sandbox with realtime combat, a free-form crafting system and a free-place dynamic territory system has really been done to death".

How many more MMOs fit to that description?

Originally posted by osmunda

@slapshot::

Hmmm. I was hoping for an actual response. What are those games?  The only one I have significant hopes for is WoD onlinem but that is still well over the horizon. What other  games should I be keeping an eye on?

 

I don't know what YOU should be keeping an eye on (since we seem to have different taste in what we consider a good/fun game), but there are a number of Sandbox games in the pipeline or Sandpark leaning to sandbox.  The three I am watching most intently are Pathfinder, Everquest Next and Archeage..

Originally posted by Doomtec

gotta love this site. bunch of people jumping on the bash bandwagon, talking shit about a game they have never played, in response to a "review" of the tutorial area.

 

 

lol your mad! bro XD game suxxors kiddo deel with it

Best MMO out, only MMO that is able to offer total freedom, a free open world, 1 blobal server, full loot and full pvp, dynamic crafting systems and realism(non wow, DF magic all over the place) 

Its the one and only sandbox MMO out.

This is the next gen, MMO world stop living for money and start progressing,, or offcourse stay with the themeparks and have fun with ur 12 year olds and die slowly.

Guidance is off the past, real thinking and hard work in games have returned and this time to stay. MO is the first of its kind, all others will simply build upon it ;D

The small little swedish company Star Vault outclassed ALL other MMO companies with less than 20 people and made a game ALL existing MMO companies could not, the MMO community should be ashamed to have lost their minds to money.

Star Vault breathes back fresh life into the MMO community and things look bright for the future.

Haters please hate on, I know u cant handle truth ;D Laters.

PS.Oh and hating mods dont delete this one too ploxx !!!!!