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  User Deleted
1/25/13 6:56:39 PM#121
They probably wouldn't let me play then, so the choice wouldn't be mine. I know I'm not that smart because I can't even figure out how to play EVE or Age of Wushu.
  L0C0Man

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1/25/13 7:00:01 PM#122

Personally, if the game is good, I'd play it... if it's not, I wouldn't, having an IQ test to participate wouldn't even factor in that.

Not that I think the IQ test would be any good, anyway. IQ tests measure a partiular kind of mental ability, to be honest that is completely irrelevant to personality and how you play and behave around others, which is what would be important to the quality of a game community... plus, I'd bet that within a couple of weeks (to give it too much time), there would be lots of websites with all the possible questions and all the "right" answers to them.

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  Squeak69

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1/25/13 7:31:41 PM#123

we are talking about eve here right? dont take this the wrong way but i hate that game, i know its a great game and i have NO complaint aginst it because it really is well made, but i hate it thats just my personel opion nothing more

i like a game that makes me think and a game that rewards people who do but at the same time i want to have fun, there is a limit to how complicated a game should be even for non casual gamers.

by makeing it extreamly hard and need a higher level of thinking you label the players right off the bat as elitest which is always bad

so in the end to answer would i play a game that required a IG test, sure if i passed it and liked the game, the IQ test itself would not be a selling point though it would be a detriment overall.

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  Gardavsshade

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1/25/13 7:40:38 PM#124

I would love to give it my best shot.

I would probably fall flat on my subhuman face, but I would show perserverance and tenacity while getting my tiny brain turned to goo.

and It would probably be very enjoyable while I lasted as well :)

(hint: MMOs are supposed to be challenges that not all Players succeed at... some are supposed to fail by design if it is a good MMO. Hard but true, and when a MMO is designed hardcore, it's more fun than can be described with words. "Addicting" comes to mind though...)


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/25/13 7:44:42 PM#125

Here's some food for thought:

Minecraft can be a very simple, basic, fun game.

The more imagination, time, and thought applied, the more amazing outcomes.

People are rewarded when they see what they have built with a sense of accomplishment, regardless of IQ or what others think.

Some of the most amazing things get thousands if not millions of views on youtube.

 

It's a game that doesn't alienate people based on IQ, has rewarding gameplay to millions, is not pay to win, and players achieve something of status when their constructions are shown to the world.  Not to mention it being adopted by a few countries into their education programs.

 

So perhaps the best games aren't the ones that cast out the less intelligent, but the ones that reward people for what they do on any level, and allow players recognition from their peers for their imagination, creativity, planning and thought.

El Psy Congroo

  Gardavsshade

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1/25/13 8:14:38 PM#126
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Here's some food for thought:

Minecraft can be a very simple, basic, fun game.

The more imagination, time, and thought applied, the more amazing outcomes.

People are rewarded when they see what they have built with a sense of accomplishment, regardless of IQ or what others think.

Some of the most amazing things get thousands if not millions of views on youtube.

 

It's a game that doesn't alienate people based on IQ, has rewarding gameplay to millions, is not pay to win, and players achieve something of status when their constructions are shown to the world.  Not to mention it being adopted by a few countries into their education programs.

 

So perhaps the best games aren't the ones that cast out the less intelligent, but the ones that reward people for what they do on any level, and allow players recognition from their peers for their imagination, creativity, planning and thought.

I give you credit for your idea for a game, it would be a refreshing change in gameplay as compared to the usual competitive nature of MMOs. You have a good point there, assuming Minecraft is a MMO, which is what this thread was asking...." would we play a MMO.."

I personally don't consider Minecraft a MMO, at least not a conventional one. Maybe it is (I don't have a good opinion of Minecraft btw).

Also... why would you want the whole world seeing what you do in a MMO? I play MMOs but I don't want  the whole world to see what I do, other MMO Players sure, but not the whole world, they wouldn't understand...it's none of their business to be honest. I would never put gameplay footage on Youtube.

I don't understand you young people.... a strange Generation you are.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  madazz

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1/25/13 10:55:30 PM#127
Originally posted by PWN_FACE
They probably wouldn't let me play then, so the choice wouldn't be mine. I know I'm not that smart because I can't even figure out how to play EVE or Age of Wushu.

That in no way means you aren't "smart". You may not comprehend those particular games well, but I am sure there is something else you excel at.

  User Deleted
1/25/13 11:02:09 PM#128
Long, long ago they stopped giving IQ tests for a very good reason. Look into it.
  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/25/13 11:09:30 PM#129
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Here's some food for thought:

Minecraft can be a very simple, basic, fun game.

The more imagination, time, and thought applied, the more amazing outcomes.

People are rewarded when they see what they have built with a sense of accomplishment, regardless of IQ or what others think.

Some of the most amazing things get thousands if not millions of views on youtube.

 

It's a game that doesn't alienate people based on IQ, has rewarding gameplay to millions, is not pay to win, and players achieve something of status when their constructions are shown to the world.  Not to mention it being adopted by a few countries into their education programs.

 

So perhaps the best games aren't the ones that cast out the less intelligent, but the ones that reward people for what they do on any level, and allow players recognition from their peers for their imagination, creativity, planning and thought.

I give you credit for your idea for a game, it would be a refreshing change in gameplay as compared to the usual competitive nature of MMOs. You have a good point there, assuming Minecraft is a MMO, which is what this thread was asking...." would we play a MMO.."

I personally don't consider Minecraft a MMO, at least not a conventional one. Maybe it is (I don't have a good opinion of Minecraft btw).

Also... why would you want the whole world seeing what you do in a MMO? I play MMOs but I don't want  the whole world to see what I do, other MMO Players sure, but not the whole world, they wouldn't understand...it's none of their business to be honest. I would never put gameplay footage on Youtube.

I don't understand you young people.... a strange Generation you are.

I wasn't suggesting Minecraft was an MMO, but rather it had some very interesting gameplay that scaled with the user you could say.  Rather than scaling with level or zone.

The part about seeing what you do in an MMO is of course an ability of any mmo when combined with screen capture software.  Minecraft allows people to use such software to share their creativity.  Not saying it'd be a great thing to implement so people can see you kill the same Boss millions of times over again in your GW2 youtube channel hehe

El Psy Congroo

  Destac

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1/25/13 11:19:00 PM#130

I like your idea, but I take it in a different meaning. By the way, the 50 cent coin John f Kennedy is on it I believe. Now back to the idea.

Your idea of a IQ test is wrong because while I have not taken this test some people say "are you a genius" to be honest I don't need to be a genius nor do I care if I was instead of making a game for people of superior intelligence-genius (120-145) the industry should make the games more challenging and put a learning curve in there. While people of higher IQ's would be able to figure it out faster they will still have a fun time with it like a puzzle.

 

The gaming industry has dumbed everything down which gives us nothing to learn or figure out. Take the game EQ as an example starting out you needed to figure how to travel to the different parts and learn their skill system. This was their learning curve which has kept a lot of people interested in the game. 

 

I will take myself as an example I hate easy tasks for instance school work that is easy = busy work to me which makes it a chore. I do it, but I procrastinate which generally leaves less time to sleep. So if games put a learning curve in and did not make it a WOW copy they would keep more people.

But this is the age of idiots were if a game requires any sort of learning people will leave.

  greenreen

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OP  1/25/13 11:31:23 PM#131
Originally posted by Rider071
Long, long ago they stopped giving IQ tests for a very good reason. Look into it.

Are you sure about that.

I took several IQ tests under 18 because I was in AT classes. They were for accelerated learning. I was reading college level under 15 years old so of course they were always tracking your progress and expecting you to keep a lead. I don't know if they have AT anymore but they did when I was in school. Last I heard they don't even teach cursive now.

Then I skipped all of high school and passed a GED in lockup (for skipping school). The choices were go to high school in lockup or get the GED and work in the library instead. See, being smart was ruining my teenage reputation so I cut every class in every school they sent me to until they finally locked me up for it. Yeah, yeah, hindsight, I'm grown now and know my kiddie faults. In lockup they gave me several tests, one for IQ and two for personality. You know, to see if I was a nasty type that would stay nasty. I remember one test kept talking about horses. How do you feel about horses. Would you ride a horse. Do horses frighten you. I kept thinking, where was this test made frickin' Oklahoma, there are no horses near me. Of course they could have been a thin veil of horses = people but so it was, the horse test was completed.

Once I started college, again they offered an IQ test along with several times doing the MBTI tests. In one class we even had to do them as part of the curriculum. That was as late as '05.

Those things have been a part of my life throughout all my years. I've worked at 2 temp companies and both of them asked me to take many tests to prove that I could do what I said on my resume. Those test results then went along with my resume to companies that I was offered to be placed with.

Tests are common everywhere I've been from lockup to the outside world. I can't imagine a world without them. Is this uncommon to other people?

I don't want to jump the fence and say they are perfection but they are about the only thing we have on paper to say - better than, worse than in these subjects.

  Destac

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1/25/13 11:42:06 PM#132
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by Rider071
Long, long ago they stopped giving IQ tests for a very good reason. Look into it.

Are you sure about that.

I took several IQ tests under 18 because I was in AT classes. They were for accelerated learning. I was reading college level under 15 years old so of course they were always tracking your progress and expecting you to keep a lead. I don't know if they have AT anymore but they did when I was in school.

Then I skipped all of high school and passed on a GED in lockup (for skipping school). See, being smart was ruining my teenage reputation. Yeah, yeah, hindsight, I'm grown now and know my kiddie faults. In lockup they gave me several tests, one for IQ and two for personality. You know, to see if I was a nasty type that would stay nasty. I remember one test kept talking about horses. How do you feel about horses. Would you ride a horse. Do horses frighten you. I kept thinking, where was this test made frickin' Oklahoma, there are no horses near me. Of course they could have been a thin veil of horses = people, but so it was, the horse test was completed.

Once I started college, again they offered an IQ test along with several times doing the MBTI tests. In one class we even had to do them as part of the curriculum. That was as late as '05.

Those things have been a part of my life throughout all my years. I've worked at 2 temp companies and both of them asked me to take many tests to prove that I could do what I said on my resume. Those test results then went along with my resume to companies that I was offered to be placed with.

Tests are common everywhere I've been from lockup to the outside world. I can't imagine a world without them. Is this uncommon to other people?

 

Wait what I was reading about 5 years ahead of my age in grade school and I was never in any accelerated courses or was given a IQ test. Most of the people in the "CATS" which was what we used in grade school wondered why I was not in it. This is what I get for an Arizona education... Which is now why in high school I have basically resorted to taking all AP math classes and science classes and next year is my junior. I go after school and have the physics teacher and AP Chem teacher teach me something and I take online classes. 

 

The reason that they have become less popular is because there were some studies that showed motivation played a large amount of the test scores so if there was an incentive to do well then they would score higher. They also stopped doing it because it could discourage some students because you will get people who think that they are all high and mighty because of their IQ. If someone tries to do that I say that I reply " Good for you now what have you done with it" That pretty much shuts them up. The point is people are only looking for something to brag about which is why atleast Arizona and Jan Brewers all mighty wisdom >.> Don't give them out anymore.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/25/13 11:44:59 PM#133
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by Rider071
Long, long ago they stopped giving IQ tests for a very good reason. Look into it.

Are you sure about that.

I took several IQ tests under 18 because I was in AT classes.

Under 18 on several IQ tests?  I'm so, so very sorry.  (teasing)

El Psy Congroo

  greenreen

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OP  1/26/13 12:04:39 AM#134
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by Rider071
Long, long ago they stopped giving IQ tests for a very good reason. Look into it.

Are you sure about that.

I took several IQ tests under 18 because I was in AT classes.

Under 18 on several IQ tests?  I'm so, so very sorry.  (teasing)

It's not that big of a deal either as they made it. My mother liked reading and taught us to read before we entered school. She let us go to the library whenever we asked - free ride and all the kids had library cards. That she did right, forcing piano lessons on me for 6 years wasn't such a good thing. I can't even read music anymore - forgot it all. If you wanted to go to a friends' house, you walked, that trip to the library or school was free for the asking.

That was her pre-training that got me there, reward her not me. You know what I think of that prodigy tag. It works something like this, a 10 year old doing something adult is enamored, an adult doing that thing is no longer special. Prodigy wears off simply by aging is my thought on the whole - my kid is special outlook. I never took it to heart like some might. As evidenced by me rebelling against what it did to my social life at one point. Now, I can embrace it but only as a thought of I have the capability to learn anything, not I know everything.

Now I'm going to listen to an old skid row song and celebrate my 18 IQ hehe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xd8ykpZkwA

  greenreen

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OP  1/26/13 12:16:00 AM#135
Originally posted by Destac
Originally posted by greenreen
Originally posted by Rider071
Long, long ago they stopped giving IQ tests for a very good reason. Look into it.
...snip

 

Wait what I was reading about 5 years ahead of my age in grade school and I was never in any accelerated courses or was given a IQ test. Most of the people in the "CATS" which was what we used in grade school wondered why I was not in it. This is what I get for an Arizona education... Which is now why in high school I have basically resorted to taking all AP math classes and science classes and next year is my junior. I go after school and have the physics teacher and AP Chem teacher teach me something and I take online classes. 

 ...snip

Yeah, sounds like they bilked you. We had kids that were just a few levels above their grade in those classes. Maybe your school ran out of space? The only good part about them was that the teachers would answer any obscure question you would think up versus regular classes where they teach directly from the book and that's it.

  Yaevindusk

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1/26/13 1:03:34 AM#136

 

I'd play a game that had some sort of maturity barrier to apply for it; the prospect of the test being an IQ one is easily exploited and not really indicative of someone being mature or logical.

There are a lot of people with high IQs that have no where near the wisdom or logic prowess as some who are average or even below it.  It usually has to do with egos and the like, as well as one thinking their thoughts should be law.

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  gamesrfun

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1/26/13 1:21:19 AM#137

Being a lot brighter than most of you noobs, let me offer this through a tacit example:

1.  Human adopts cat.  Human feels smart.

2.  Human meets Flying Spaghetti Monster.  Human feels stupid.

Life's flavo(u)r often arrives from the interactions with those lesser than you.  Do not shun them.   I work (now) as an asset compiler  for a worldwide top 10 (100 billion +) bank. 

If you ever want to feel meh, hang out with some of the macro analysts that do derivative forecasting at one of these places.  You'll be glad you can melt face via stunted noobs whenever you hop online.  

 

 

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

1/26/13 1:40:10 AM#138
I'm surprised at all the people who said, "yes."  I thought for sure they would vote "no" as I did.  It sounds like another way to troll people.  I don't think much of people who go to scientists to get preg, either.  The lab is allowed to keep the fertilized "specimens" that are not inserted in a women's uterus for experimentation.  All those scientists who hack away on unborn children would pass an IQ test with flying colors!  So intelligence, tho helpful in survival situations, is NOT the most important aspect of human behavior.  Try compassion.

My favorite game glitch: http://youtu.be/9pQ_ZozZIio

  Sidraket

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1/26/13 2:28:01 AM#139
This is kind of an interesting question because as others have pointed out it would do nothing to improve the quality of the mmo community on a social level, in fact it could hurt it. However it would improve the skill of the people you play with, which is probably a good thing - but modern day mmos don't really require competence to play, so does that really matter? Id check it out, but if its not a good game i wouldn't stick around just to be part of some special club.
  greenreen

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OP  1/26/13 2:39:14 AM#140

The messiest part of all this is that we already all play together, the higher and the lower. Anything claimed about the higher already exists in these games, same with the lower even though they aren't on the hot seat for the topic.

Thanks everyone for participating no matter your opinion. This one got lively. I don't want to artificially bump it by responding but it was so tempting to not jump in sometimes I posted more than normal because of that pondering I already had some of my thoughts about how I would argue the in favor of while maintaining that the results weren't concrete knowing that it could be viewed as separatism but that one was an easy debate, we see that all the time. It worked out well because not many were in favor in type, guess the majority of them kept their reasons to themselves. 

Have fun with it if there is any juice left in the conversation, I'm done making long posts.

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