Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by Wolfenpride

Originally posted by Rusque
but the real flaw with D3 . . . R M A H. That had to be the worst design decision (for players) ever, worked out well for their bank account though.

That and the online requirement for what has previously been a single player series are the biggest reasons I never bothered trying this game.

 

I also tried Path of Exile. I had to log in to play. Teh Horror!

I'm still waiting for the massive outcry about that. Why does GGG get a free pass? Because the game is free? You still can't play the damn thing where there's no internet, which is what the D3 haters are / were whining about in the first place!

Where are the 0/10 reviews on metacritic? Where are the people calling the project lead a 'fat fuck' or some other unimaginative insult? Where's Totalbiscuit calling Grinding Gear Games 'evil'?

I understand what Pardo is doing. Of course, any responsible adult with a salaried position would know to say the exact same thing, basically. 

Thing is, the customer is always right in capitalism. Acti-Blizzard lives and dies by this dictum, so they are well aware of its validity. 

How often do people react to this degree when an employee "steps down"? This is an exceptional degree. There must be a reason for that.

Originally posted by PWN_FACE

I understand what Pardo is doing. Of course, any responsible adult with a salaried position would know to say the exact same thing, basically. 

 

Thing is, the customer is always right in capitalism. Acti-Blizzard lives and dies by this dictum, so they are well aware of its validity. 

 

How often do people react to this degree when an employee "steps down"? This is an exceptional degree. There must be a reason for that.

 No, the customer is generally a complete idiot. You just can't tell them so. In the gaming business people often react to this degree. To everything. Mostly because an abnormally large proportion of gamers are complete idiots. They cry, whine and bitch constantly then fork over huge sums of money for games they'll throw away in a week, usually made by companies whose last game they threw away in a week. Then they swear they'll never do it again. Crack addicts have more sense than that.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by PWN_FACE

I understand what Pardo is doing. Of course, any responsible adult with a salaried position would know to say the exact same thing, basically. 

 

Thing is, the customer is always right in capitalism. Acti-Blizzard lives and dies by this dictum, so they are well aware of its validity. 

 

How often do people react to this degree when an employee "steps down"? This is an exceptional degree. There must be a reason for that.

 No, the customer is generally a complete idiot. You just can't tell them so. In the gaming business people often react to this degree. To everything. Mostly because an abnormally large proportion of gamers are complete idiots. They cry, whine and bitch constantly then fork over huge sums of money for games they'll throw away in a week, usually made by companies whose last game they threw away in a week. Then they swear they'll never do it again. Crack addicts have more sense than that.

No, gaming in itself is an addiction like any drug or alcoholism to many people. How many times have you heard people who were hungover say they were never gonna drink again, then the next day or week, they were right back at it?

It's really no different than that.

Crack addicts do not have more sense than this. They know it feels good at first, but it's bad for them, yet they continue to do it.

Once again, no difference. :p

Originally posted by Rednecksith

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by Wolfenpride

Originally posted by Rusque
but the real flaw with D3 . . . R M A H. That had to be the worst design decision (for players) ever, worked out well for their bank account though.

That and the online requirement for what has previously been a single player series are the biggest reasons I never bothered trying this game.

 

I also tried Path of Exile. I had to log in to play. Teh Horror!

I'm still waiting for the massive outcry about that. Why does GGG get a free pass? Because the game is free? You still can't play the damn thing where there's no internet, which is what the D3 haters are / were whining about in the first place!

Where are the 0/10 reviews on metacritic? Where are the people calling the project lead a 'fat fuck' or some other unimaginative insult? Where's Totalbiscuit calling Grinding Gear Games 'evil'?

 

Well you are right, with it being a completely free game with an optional cash shop while being a better game it is afforded  leeway that Diablo 3 wasn't. 

Theres a difference between delivering an online only turd for $60 and an online only well done game for free :) 

Originally posted by Aviggin

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by PWN_FACE

I understand what Pardo is doing. Of course, any responsible adult with a salaried position would know to say the exact same thing, basically. 

 

Thing is, the customer is always right in capitalism. Acti-Blizzard lives and dies by this dictum, so they are well aware of its validity. 

 

How often do people react to this degree when an employee "steps down"? This is an exceptional degree. There must be a reason for that.

 No, the customer is generally a complete idiot. You just can't tell them so. In the gaming business people often react to this degree. To everything. Mostly because an abnormally large proportion of gamers are complete idiots. They cry, whine and bitch constantly then fork over huge sums of money for games they'll throw away in a week, usually made by companies whose last game they threw away in a week. Then they swear they'll never do it again. Crack addicts have more sense than that.

No, gaming in itself is an addiction like any drug or alcoholism to many people. How many times have you heard people who were hungover say they were never gonna drink again, then the next day or week, they were right back at it?

It's really no different than that.

Crack addicts do not have more sense than this. They know it feels good at first, but it's bad for them, yet they continue to do it.

Once again, no difference. :p

 The whole gaming is an addiction thing is way overplayed. Gaming about addictive as coin collecting. Crack addicts won't go back to dealers that sell them envelopesof  fake crack so no the are actually smarter than a lot of gamers.

Originally posted by kevjards
can anyone tell me just how many people thereabouts are playing D3.from what i gather its a considerable amount of people..and it was a considerable amount of people that bought it..not saying its brilliant but all those people still playing must be playing it for a reason..i personally enjoyed it although its not the best game i've played.and i gather the people still playing it are enjoying it as well.for every person that dislikes it there is a person who likes it..so it cantbe all bad..not to mention its made a shitload of money for blizz.

 In game new public grouping stays  around 600+ in EU in softcore these days. Only new, not yet full groups are counted, no private game, nor solo games. That new counting system was introduced at the start of June.

That's around a 30% retention rate compared to June 2012 and in the last 4 months the numbers stayed the same after patch 1.05.

So according to public grouping there are around 3 million players atm.

What's interesting is that D3 only uses one server structure per region. Rendering the AH's full of actvitiy all the time.