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  Thandras

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1/25/13 1:43:11 PM#21

Is it me or does everyone seem to be missing his point? He asked for a SERVER to be added with factions. Not to change the entire game?

May be my reading comprehension isn't what it used to be but that doesn't seem like an unreasonable request. It might actually open the game up to more revenue by provding a medium for people that would enjoy that type of system.

  Murashu

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1/25/13 1:43:57 PM#22
This is my biggest fear about Trion being the ArcheAge publishers here in NA, trying to change the game too much. I've been waiting a long time for someone to make a game like EVE but in a fantasy setting with actual avatars and would really hate to see Trion screw it up.

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  xSyngex

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1/25/13 1:46:20 PM#23
Originally posted by chaintm

This game is basicly a remake of my beloved Dark Age of Camelot, if you brought factional servers in I would be there for life!

1. Easier to identify sides

2. Alliances will sprout more quickly

3. Random ganks, fun, but get old and sometime annoying, can still happen in factional with people jumping the border, but more people will work togather in their own lands.

4. More boarder wars then just random battles, making for more organized pvp!

5. I think the biggest draw to the factional idea for me is like daoc, you just get a great community when you are at the start semi pre-determined ... "ok these guys are my buds! all of them!".

6. Settlements and defenses would forge more togather for defense etc, I can imagin some nice boarder walls etc ;)

7. Easier for starting players to get into and not rage and quit.

8. Opens up for a more friendly community just by the server rules.

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add to the list or argue if you like, I just think factional would rock in this game.

 

 

What where do I down load this?............

  Murashu

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1/25/13 1:48:03 PM#24
Originally posted by Thandras

Is it me or does everyone seem to be missing his point? He asked for a SERVER to be added with factions. Not to change the entire game?

May be my reading comprehension isn't what it used to be but that doesn't seem like an unreasonable request. It might actually open the game up to more revenue by provding a medium for people that would enjoy that type of system.

We tried that argument with Trion during the Rift alpha and although they said they would entertain the idea of having servers with different rulesets, the idea was eventually dismissed. I guess having multiple versions of game code for different server types is just too much work, hassle, cost...whatever excuse they want to come up with.

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  Slampig

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1/25/13 1:52:42 PM#25
Personally I am kind of tired of factions. Give me a game where all races can guild up with each other and let guilds have at it. I am also tired of not being able to talk to opposing factions, a little back and forth never hurt anyone.

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  Vunak23

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1/25/13 1:52:58 PM#26
Originally posted by chaintm
Originally posted by Vunak23
Originally posted by chaintm

Allot of opinions for those that it wouldn't effect other then less to gank, any negative responses to this are just that, this has no effect on your direct gameplay beyond the fact that the community has a choice. One , that I might add , you don't have to make.

Because your trying to take one game and turn it into another. Its a slap in the face to Jake Song and XLGames to tear down what they had a vision to create and try and turn it into something else 

Opinion, not fact good to see people are passionite about someones vision and have such insight into what a person thinks. If I didn't know better, I would think multiple people here are married to the guy.

Considering they created what they created, and have come out and said in many interviews what there vision was for ArcheAge and how happy they were with what they created its pretty easy to say that the vision they had was what they created. Not what you wish they had created, or they would have created what you wished.....

 

"In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo

  Ice-Queen

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Joined: 1/02/08
Posts: 2434

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1/25/13 1:55:52 PM#27
I'd rather them leave it alone and release it as it was made, but in English of course though, and not modify anything for us here in the West.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot

  Mawnee

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Joined: 3/16/12
Posts: 182

1/25/13 2:17:34 PM#28
Originally posted by Tayah
I'd rather them leave it alone and release it as it was made, but in English of course though, and not modify anything for us here in the West.

^ This. The whole point of the third continent is everyone vs everyone! Factions would encourage too much cooperation and you would just end up with one side or another dominating each server(pretty much whichever side has the higher population). With free for all you will still have alliances, but there will be more flux and conflict.

 

I am all for options though. Extra servers with factional options wouldnt hurt anyone.

  chaintm

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Posts: 977

"Shutting down threads sense 2004"

 
OP  1/25/13 2:18:20 PM#29
Originally posted by Murashu
Originally posted by Thandras

Is it me or does everyone seem to be missing his point? He asked for a SERVER to be added with factions. Not to change the entire game?

May be my reading comprehension isn't what it used to be but that doesn't seem like an unreasonable request. It might actually open the game up to more revenue by provding a medium for people that would enjoy that type of system.

We tried that argument with Trion during the Rift alpha and although they said they would entertain the idea of having servers with different rulesets, the idea was eventually dismissed. I guess having multiple versions of game code for different server types is just too much work, hassle, cost...whatever excuse they want to come up with.

Good info, I will just past and leave the elitest to their darkfall population :) haha, j/k! in any case good to know, this = pass for me and the guild. GL in the game thou, looks fun.

"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  goofy3k

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Joined: 8/10/04
Posts: 234

1/25/13 2:20:49 PM#30
The same thing happens everytime a western publisher takes on an eastern mmo, they ask for all these changes and expect they can be done. None of this will be implemented, the only changes they make are languages, maybe edit some character models for the west, change the xp gain rate and add some quests/edit the text or rewards. It's so funny watching people who think the game will change much. Always the same crappy eastern mmo published in English - that's all it's going to be, seen it too many times.
  RefMinor

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 3542

Hipster

1/25/13 2:25:23 PM#31
Originally posted by chaintm
Allot of opinions for those that it wouldn't effect other then less to gank, any negative responses to this are just that, this has no effect on your direct gameplay beyond the fact that the community has a choice. One , that I might add , you don't have to make.

Of course it affects my gameplay, the developers waste resource trying to turn the player faction game I want to play into a different game, and worse if it was successful they would abandon my player faction game.

Happily, I have a player faction game coming out and your idea is a pipe dream.

  Torvaldr

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Posts: 5630

1/25/13 2:27:20 PM#32
Originally posted by Tayah
I'd rather them leave it alone and release it as it was made, but in English of course though, and not modify anything for us here in the West.

This is exactly what I hope happens.

I don't think Jake Song sees contrived factions as a valueable game mechanic.  His first game, Lineage, was all about Blood Pledges (guilds) and their alliances creating player defined factions.  It didn't matter what class or race you started from.  It mattered where your loyalties remained.  The faction dynamics and politics were amazing.

I don't think the game will be a simple gankfest like AoC or other open world ffa western pvp games.  There are consequences in his games for rampant PK.  This seems to be an evolution of his design philosophies in Lineage and should remain true to his vision and not be watered down for the west.  He has already considered global gaming preferences in his design.

And "just one server" doesn't operate in a vacuum.  It does affect the rest of the game, resource development needs, and how the overall community develops.  I would vote no for this.  Fortunately TESO looks like it wants to be daoc2 so you have an option there.

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  RefMinor

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Hipster

1/25/13 2:28:04 PM#33
Originally posted by Tayah
I'd rather them leave it alone and release it as it was made, but in English of course though, and not modify anything for us here in the West.

+1

next someone will be asking to tone down the virtual world aspect and make it more lobby based.

  Ezhae

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Posts: 734

1/25/13 2:30:14 PM#34
Originally posted by chaintm
They wrote they will be modifying things for the western playing community. Obviously languages for one, but another is possible changes , they won't get into details thou, read that at pcgamer. edit: oh btw, they are not just a publisher ;P

MOdyifing for western audience usually means adjusting cash shop, adjusting rates (upping xp gains, drops, etc.) and small tweaks to specific mechanics (like for eg. death penalties and so on). They can't add completely new features, they can't overhaul core gameplay systems, and any change they do needs ot be discussed with original developer first because that's how licensing usually works. 

  chaintm

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"Shutting down threads sense 2004"

 
OP  1/25/13 2:31:09 PM#35
Wow, we kinda ended this thread, this topic must steam you two, to be bothered by it so much, so much so i think you might think it would actually happen. Thou after a good poster here pointed out, I think your darkfall game is secure, no worries gank the noobs! They will come in droves for at least a good year! hehe, have fun man, just not for me, been there done that, kinda bored with that concept. Awsome looking game thou.

"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  RefMinor

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1/25/13 2:31:45 PM#36
Have you actually read your signature OP?

"The monster created isn't by 
the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was" -Chaintm
 
 
  chaintm

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Posts: 977

"Shutting down threads sense 2004"

 
OP  1/25/13 2:33:06 PM#37
Originally posted by RefMinor
Have you actually read your signature OP?

"The monster created isn't by 
the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was" -Chaintm
 
 

NO I have no clue what your talking about.

"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"

  ziabatsu

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Joined: 12/15/03
Posts: 104

1/25/13 7:37:07 PM#38
Originally posted by chaintm

This game is basicly a remake of my beloved Dark Age of Camelot, if you brought factional servers in I would be there for life!

1. Easier to identify sides

2. Alliances will sprout more quickly

3. Random ganks, fun, but get old and sometime annoying, can still happen in factional with people jumping the border, but more people will work togather in their own lands.

4. More boarder wars then just random battles, making for more organized pvp!

5. I think the biggest draw to the factional idea for me is like daoc, you just get a great community when you are at the start semi pre-determined ... "ok these guys are my buds! all of them!".

6. Settlements and defenses would forge more togather for defense etc, I can imagin some nice boarder walls etc ;)

7. Easier for starting players to get into and not rage and quit.

8. Opens up for a more friendly community just by the server rules.

-----------

 

add to the list or argue if you like, I just think factional would rock in this game.

 

 

Every gay reason you listed are reasons no sandbox fan gives a fuck about. it's a sandbox game. Not a theme-park game. It wasn't made for you. Play World of Warcraft or one of the other millions of games out there and let us have a few fuckin sandbox titles w/out being babies, plz? Carebears ruined all the fun oldschool games, lol.

  chaintm

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"Shutting down threads sense 2004"

 
OP  1/25/13 8:13:18 PM#39
Originally posted by ziabatsu
Originally posted by chaintm

This game is basicly a remake of my beloved Dark Age of Camelot, if you brought factional servers in I would be there for life!

1. Easier to identify sides

2. Alliances will sprout more quickly

3. Random ganks, fun, but get old and sometime annoying, can still happen in factional with people jumping the border, but more people will work togather in their own lands.

4. More boarder wars then just random battles, making for more organized pvp!

5. I think the biggest draw to the factional idea for me is like daoc, you just get a great community when you are at the start semi pre-determined ... "ok these guys are my buds! all of them!".

6. Settlements and defenses would forge more togather for defense etc, I can imagin some nice boarder walls etc ;)

7. Easier for starting players to get into and not rage and quit.

8. Opens up for a more friendly community just by the server rules.

-----------

 

add to the list or argue if you like, I just think factional would rock in this game.

 

 

Every gay reason you listed are reasons no sandbox fan gives a fuck about. it's a sandbox game. Not a theme-park game. It wasn't made for you. Play World of Warcraft or one of the other millions of games out there and let us have a few fuckin sandbox titles w/out being babies, plz? Carebears ruined all the fun oldschool games, lol.

Blind fanboizm, you know nothing of my playing style or my choices, cursing doesn't hold weight nor does crazy statements, tell you what, when you want a rational conversation let.... wait hold that, this is mmorpg, nm... I recommend , following that advice on your pic.

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  dinams

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1/25/13 8:19:54 PM#40
Originally posted by chaintm
Wow, we kinda ended this thread, this topic must steam you two, to be bothered by it so much, so much so i think you might think it would actually happen. Thou after a good poster here pointed out, I think your darkfall game is secure, no worries gank the noobs! They will come in droves for at least a good year! hehe, have fun man, just not for me, been there done that, kinda bored with that concept. Awsome looking game thou.

Man you are so pathetic

Your arrogance and pedantism are extraordinary

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