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1/25/13 11:06:21 AM#161
That's not entirely true. There was a percentage of people that really wanted kotor 3. They even got bent out of shape because Bioware requested that they put down a credit card for future reoccurring payments. and when bioware refused a refund after 30 days then proceeded to charge back. Now, The people that approached it as an mmorpg did for the most part take issues with what you described and the fact that the game did not meet the expectations of what was in their head.
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1/25/13 11:09:04 AM#162
I think the Cancelation Model will be the most popular payment option
Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR |
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1/25/13 11:09:43 AM#163
I will always receive funcom points.
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Betaguy
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Joined: 12/31/04
The king and the pawn go back to the same box at the end of the day. |
1/25/13 11:12:03 AM#164
Originally posted by Nitth Going to be a shame when the company folds this year and you get nothing... well maybe they will send you a Xmas card in the mail every year after.
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1/25/13 11:14:10 AM#165
Can i patronize you back if the company doesn't fold in a years time?
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1/25/13 11:16:22 AM#166
Originally posted by Galadourn I've played WOW for years and the community I experienced was awful, elitist wannabe and anything but mature... Then, I got to GW2 and I'm just amazed how better the community in game is. One of the friendliest community in mmorpg world. I'm not really sure why people get this idea that P2P will get you mature crowd... So far I've experienced exactly the opposite. I think B2P with cash shop (not intrusive cash shop where it blocks you from progressing) doesn't give the players this feeling that they're getting coined where P2P model does and is outdated (atleast those sub prices which are present today) thus should be left where it belongs. "Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."  |
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Betaguy
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Joined: 12/31/04
The king and the pawn go back to the same box at the end of the day. |
1/25/13 11:16:38 AM#167
Originally posted by Nitth Sure... I have no feelings
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1/25/13 11:17:12 AM#168
Heh. Every time I hear about lifetime subscriptions, I think of this from The Big Bang Theory: http://youtu.be/2jAePQzdXGg?t=5s
How not to sell me on a game: "And most people that make it past the tutorial seem to appreciate [x game's] uniqueness, even if they don't find it fun." |
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1/25/13 11:23:08 AM#169
Korent
That's because wow Is a phatlewt game, where as gw2 is the opposite. The more important gear is, the more drama you get in game and the worse the community. This goes way back before wow. Way more drama in EQ than less gear driven games like coh and daoc for instance. |
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1/25/13 11:27:48 AM#170
Pay 2 Play. |
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1/25/13 11:30:01 AM#171
Originally posted by korent1991 Sorry man, you lost me in a fit of giggles at GW2 having a good community. This game is actually known for it's piss poor community. Great game in it's own way, but community is not one of those ways. Currently Playing: Path of Exile, Everquest |
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1/25/13 11:32:31 AM#172
Originally posted by Aeonblades Wow has the worst community in the mmo genre and it's p2p. The business model does not determine what the community will be like the game itself will shape that. |
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1/25/13 11:34:01 AM#173
Originally posted by Istavaan I didn't say WoW was any better, why are we comparing a game that old that we know is the preferred game of kids? It's kind of a moot point. All I was saying was that saying GW2 has a good community is like saying SWTOR had a great launch and plenty of end game content at release. Currently Playing: Path of Exile, Everquest |
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1/25/13 11:38:19 AM#174
Originally posted by Aeonblades Because people are identifying a good community with a certain business model. p2p creates a more mature community etc, which is not true. |
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1/25/13 11:40:31 AM#175
That cant be proven either way. Ryzom for example has like 12 players and 90% is a fantastic p2p community. if you let in 200 f2p players the potential for a disastrous community escalates. The amount of people associated with the game plays a larger role.
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1/25/13 11:44:56 AM#176
Originally posted by Nitth That's beside the point, elder scrolls online isn't going to be f2p, it will either be p2p or b2p. |
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1/25/13 11:46:35 AM#177
I love when people use WoW as an example when it suits their needs. You know whats F2P and has the worst community of any game. LoL. I would rather have the WoW community then that community. We have had one game that is B2P and its community is nothing to praise either. Yet we have many good P2P games with amazing communities, FFXI, UO, Shadowbane, DAoC and the list goes on. Now I am sure there are F2P games with great communites as well, I'm not trying to say there isn't. But having a gate there at the start will keep it from being accessible to every one on the block and help keep out botters and RMT alike if not just the random kid that doesn't belong in the game in the first place. "In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet." ~Gabe Amatangelo |
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1/25/13 11:48:23 AM#178
Originally posted by Vunak23 Well said. LoL's community. /shudder Currently Playing: Path of Exile, Everquest |
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1/25/13 11:50:28 AM#179
Originally posted by Vunak23 I love how you use LOL when it suits your needs, see i can do that too. LOL isn't even an MMO so stay on topic will you. |
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1/25/13 11:55:29 AM#180
I thought your argument was people associating p2p with good communities are false?
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