To all those talking about separatism.

Don't we already institute those things ourselves. With the friends we choose and the places we visit. We only have enough time in the day to consume a certain amount, don't we limit it to our interests and like minds? I wouldn't think it illogical to group people together that seem to have a curve in a certain direction. I think we already participate in separating ourselves from others all the time for reasons that don't have to be on paper.

Elitism only works if you have someone to laugh at that is there to feed the bullying. If the person isn't included, how can they be part of the scheme. All of us that aren't in Mensa don't feel dejected because they continue to have meetings, do we?

I would probably not play a game that forced an arbitrary IQ test on its players just to weed out the undesirables. Mainly because it further promotes the kind of elitist behaviour that has been plaguing online gaming for years. This would basically build a community of entitled twats, thinking they are above the rest of the mmo-world due to their incredible intelligence.

In truth I'd would rather spend my time alongside a somewhat dull-witted person, I would practically need to take by hand and explain everything to, as long as he's humble and of cheerful personality, than spending my time along someone intelligent but socially inept, having to put up with the classic lectures on how to play the game, and being told you have to do things in a certain order for peak efficiency, have a certain build, and use a particular piece of equipment because otherwise I'd be inferior statistically, and gods forbid that!

Low IQ most certainly isn't the problem in MMOs.

  I, for one, would not play such a game.  I spend most of my day having to solve a wide variety of problems, and already have to spend even more learning new things and moving forward to work my way up the financial ladder to improve the quality of life and opportunities for my family.  Gaming is a disconnect from that.  If I enjoyed taking tests that much I'd just take some college classes for fun.

  I will gladly play with all the dummies and bring myself "down to their level" in order to avoid that scenario.

Originally posted by KhinRunite
 Also I think it's obvious that whoever bothered taking, passing and exceeding the prerequisite IQ test is interested in playing the MMO, unless he simply wants to know his IQ.

Not necessarily. There are plenty who just want to be part of something exclusionary. Hell, look at the suggestions that regularly get put forth on these forums. Elitism isn't about what one likes but about excluding others from what they might like.

Look at the poll - 68% said Yes. No information was given about the theme, genre, gameplay or features. Their answer is based on one sole piece of information - an IQ gate.

Maybe this is an alternative idea:

Why not make the game sufficiently intellectually challenging and immune to cheating so the content itself acts as a gene pool filter?

Originally posted by Trueforral1

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This would basically build a community of entitled twats, thinking they are above the rest of the mmo-world due to their incredible intelligence.

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Here's how I would twist that thought. There is going to be a bottom in the higher IQ group too. It's why helping the poor doesn't always work because once you help one person, they exceed the other and now the other person is the poorest. Someone is always going to be at the bottom no matter the scale. Even in the row of higher IQ, someone is going to be at the base and be considered the "poorest".

Originally posted by XAPGames

Maybe this is an alternative idea:

Why not make the game sufficiently intellectually challenging and immune to cheating so the content itself acts as a gene pool filter?

Because that doesn't seem to be the goal.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by XAPGames

Maybe this is an alternative idea:

Why not make the game sufficiently intellectually challenging and immune to cheating so the content itself acts as a gene pool filter?

Because that doesn't seem to be the goal.

Far be it from me to miss the point of a thread. *sigh*  Oh well, not the first time this happened. :-)

no

IQ tests are famously bias.

Take some coursework in education and you will find out just how messed up those types of tests are.

Is this the topic where everyone will claim to have above average IQ and beat their chest and say 'hell yeah'? well i guess i will fit right in then.

I love these 'make yourself feel better' topics ;)

Originally posted by Spiider

I see elitism is well and thriwing. And some people believe they are better than others and deserve more just by being "better".

Damn, where did I see this already.... ah I remember, Nazi Germany said "Hi".

 

Coun't me out. Elitists should drown in their egos.

Godwin alert!

Originally posted by XAPGames

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by XAPGames

Maybe this is an alternative idea:

Why not make the game sufficiently intellectually challenging and immune to cheating so the content itself acts as a gene pool filter?

Because that doesn't seem to be the goal.

 

Far be it from me to miss the point of a thread. *sigh*  Oh well, not the first time this happened. :-)

 

Your idea is legit too but I can see the posts now, the game is too hard! They expect someone to think while playing, I'm going back to the grinding game where I don't have to solve anything. That way the test is the indicator that this game is going to require some thinking, then you were warned. You went on the inside of the doors while I was thinking of the outside gate. I think it's the same premise without it being stated but experienced instead.

Reminds me of sandbox games where people start asking what to do then where things are. People respond to them then they ask again. Without 5 trackers to tell them where to walk and highlight things, they are lost. Those people aren't ever going to get off that give me a fish instead of teaching me to fish lakeside scene.

Sure I'd give it a shot.

Think of it as an entrance exam for school or a job interview.

Yea i would love that, so I could stay away from that game. I would pass this test, it is not the problem. But hey, I'm someone who sometime love to Grief others, I gank lowbies when I see them. I am not always talkative and When I run dungeons with a random PuG or random group formation, I am mostly a bot, I do my job, I try to do it well and that's it. BUT, sometime i'm so bored of running the same dungeon, that I will chat on facebook at the same time.

I have 2 friend in a video game that I play that are otistic, they write awfully, they do not know how to talk properly, but  he is always there to help me and he is actually a really good player. I would recommend that guy in a video game before I would recommend my own self. He will not drop from a group because he is bored and he don't care. The game means a lot to him, more than it does to me.

What I am saying is that, even though I'm smart I sometime act like a jerk, and I do not think that it's people who arent smart that spams "THUNDERFURY" or say ass jokes, I played every MMO out there, and good players doesnt mean smart people at all.

Originally posted by Psychow
They should put these things on everyone's computer and be required to gain access to the internet. Sure the forums would be empty...but scoring more than 70 on an IQ test is hard...

This is the kind of proof that even if you have IQ you do not always know what you are talking about. People less brilliant are sometime more helpful and they seek to blame other or flame less than "smart" people

Originally posted by Betaguy
I would give it a shot.

I am reminded of players who complain over a four-question guild application ("It's the principal of the thing!").

No chance they'd sit through hours of examination anyway.

Originally posted by Psychow
They should put these things on everyone's computer and be required to gain access to the internet. Sure the forums would be empty...but scoring more than 70 on an IQ test is hard...

Tech support people around the globe would sing your praises if they did.