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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] Star Wars: The Old Republic: How SWTOR Can Own 2013

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1/24/13 5:32:37 PM#141

if swtor wants to surivive in 2013, it need...and i means needs to change how the f2p works.

paying for ui customization, that is just stupid, You have to pay to be able to craft more than one item at a time...stupid. just paying for the basic fuctionaly of the game. you have got to be kidding me. hell other f2p games give you more than that. but this is EA we are talking about know

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1/24/13 5:52:24 PM#142
Originally posted by leovinous

if swtor wants to surivive in 2013, it need...and i means needs to change how the f2p works.

paying for ui customization, that is just stupid, You have to pay to be able to craft more than one item at a time...stupid. just paying for the basic fuctionaly of the game. you have got to be kidding me. hell other f2p games give you more than that. but this is EA we are talking about know


F2P and B2P really need to be just that. MMOers are not dumb. When a MMO goes F2P or B2P the first thing I look up in the restrictions. 30 seconds reading SWToRs restrictions and I walked away. We have come a long way since EQ1 launch day and 15 bucks a month when there is so many quality MMOs out there to play is no longer worth the coin. Loving GW2 thats 3 X the game SWToR is and really is B2P with a cash shop thats not pay to win. 

I would really play SWToR if they adpoted GW2 B2P policy and even throw them money from time to time in the cash shop and only for 2 reasons. I have a few friends there and I do love Star Wars. Play your strengths EA and make this game worth playing.

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1/24/13 10:20:48 PM#143
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by ignore_me

They might want to address the horrible frame-rates many users get even on high end systems. I would have given free to play more of a chance if the game could get above 20-25 fps on my rig.  


My computer is old aprox 3 years, is good but not top, ... all maxed out ... enver had any lag. Alwas (ok, from time to time, line problemsr server) have been playing it for months and months completely fluid. Could be however some have client problems because i.e. some conflict with certain graphics cards. I had terrible experience with TSW on my W7 32bit computer, when installed 64bit (as they insisted is only possible solution) on SAME computer and on SAME configuration everything changed like day and night to better.

Games I never ever had problems (on same computer) with running all maxed out: wow, swtor, gw2, rift, ... close to disaster however war, some time also aoc, ....

running same hardware as I did at launch, to include 64-bit windows 7. Ran great at launch +3 months. Somewhere in between they introduced something that makes my comp choke. Have heard the same thing from others, even having gone to new machines and still problems. I also know people who have no problems.

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1/24/13 11:14:06 PM#144
This makes me wish this site had a "block game" feature.


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1/25/13 12:02:41 AM#145
Open world pvp? You might as well shut the game down.

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1/25/13 12:24:02 AM#146

there is no fix that can save it, it had its chances and squandered most of them

Its dead, let it die in peace



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1/25/13 1:14:12 AM#147

Own 2013,prob not.

I have to say (again) that all you guys who keep preaching the game is dead and no one is interested and all that BS, really have no idea what you are talking about. I get the game had issues at launch but it is getting better all the time. F2P did bring in alot of people . No matter how much you try and convince yourself (and others) that swtor is dead and buried the fact is it is doing very well with highly populated servers and like it or not,the cash shop is making money! I am not a fan of the cash shop but it is here AND it pulled the game out of the hole most of you were so glad to see it in.

So. Go find another game to pull apart cause anyone who actually plays the game knows your negative comments hold no water. I guess i will see you all bashing eso and Neverwinter very soon!


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1/25/13 1:54:55 AM#148
it would take jump tolight speed type space. a deep complex crafting system.. a player driven economy .. several more classes.. more specied to play.. player houses like swg .. guild ships that are usable.. an indepth resource system.. and jedi would have to be an unlock and powerful rather than balanced.

small things to ask of a star wars game.

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1/25/13 2:00:15 AM#149
I think SWTOR best chance to be a successful game is to leave MMO space and go to single player game :)

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1/25/13 2:12:23 AM#150
Originally posted by black_isle
Come on man, i'm not saying the game is dead or anything, it still has it's fans and audience but owning 2013? Come on... :)




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1/25/13 3:10:03 AM#151

Originally posted by rojo6934

i love when all these random people start wondering if the forums have been payed off by the company to say positive things about X games.  I think the things SWTOR did wrong are far bigger than the ones it did well. but taht doesnt mean you are being payed off by mentioning the little good things it has. People really need to grow up. The game is not for you, period. Also news forums like this one are not meant to publish articles about what haters think of a game. Share your positive and negative opinions with all here but dont pretend that  an article is wrong because its saying good things about a game that has failed before and is trying to do better now.

Great post ! There seems to be a lot of sheeple getting onto the bash-ToR bandwagon just like pre-MoP there was a bash-WoW bandwagon. The OP is actually both positive and negative, overall a balanced piece. I do not see why there is no way that ToR can't "own 2013". What I hope is that there is major competition between EA/Bioware, ANet, Funcom, etc. to bring us the best MMO possible : I hope that all companies try to "own 2013"

Originally posted by BadSpock

If they re-balanced all of the content/combat 10-50 to match the pace and speed/fun of 1-10 combat, I'd try the game out again.

But as it stood when I left (almost a year ago) 10-50 is "balanced" in PvE to have a healing companion out at all times, unless you can heal yourself, then you use a tanking pet.

I HATE pet classes in MMO games. Hate them. Every single class in SWTOR was/is a pet class thanks to companions.

Biggest fail IMO was making companions necessary for the vast majority of the game.

Would have been better, again IMO, if companions were only available in the instanced portions of your personal story quests.

Just a thought but have you tried finding a player to duo with and just putting away the companion ?


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1/25/13 4:48:08 AM#152
Originally posted by kyssari
Sorry but any mmo tyhat advertises f2p and is actually p2p in the fact that as soon as you encounter a game breaking bug that doesn't allow you to play the game anymore can not even be reported let alone fixed until you pay a subscription fee to gain access to customer support.... Total fail...So much potential lost thanks once again to corporate big business asshats (aka EA) who only care about making money isntead of making good games :\

Funny thing is that the good game , will achieve the make money goal . I really think theres some miscommunication there , either the people making the game are not being honest , or the bean counters are clueless . Every business is unique , and you need to know it well .


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1/25/13 7:44:11 AM#153
SWTOR CAN'T own 2013 this is a weak mmo (with very poor engine) without endgame content and pvp. This is like korean mmo - grind, grind, grind and get a cute pet :) 

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1/25/13 10:38:41 AM#154

Great blog and wow such a lot of passionate people replying :) . Must be a very popular game still , to either bash or praise. Anyways OT so yeah a boxed expansion you say and I say yes please. How many planets should be in it ? What would the level cap go up to ? Plus to do all that in less than a year , hmm I think maybe by feb 2014 they could do it but not by the end of the year . Three planets and a 10 level cap increase should suffice. Get to it Bioware.



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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

1/25/13 10:50:48 AM#155
Originally posted by BadOrb

 Must be a very popular game still , to either bash or praise.

It would still get as many posts even if it was a thread stating how SWG or CoH can own 2013. All 3 have as much chance as owning 2013 ;)

SWTOR is popular for discussions, just not popular for playing

It may have had less and more constructive feedback if the title said something like "What SWTOR needs to do to own 2013" Maybe that is what the OP is after, but what I took it as and many others did seem to as well, was that SWTOR looks good to own 2013, but not really, not the direction it is going at the moment. They are still just recycling content already done. STO has more chance of owning 2013, with Season 8 and Season 9 slated already for 2013, and Season 6 and Season 7 already in game since June 2012, when Makeb and everything else was brought up. So by the time STO releases Season 8, that will be 3 loads of content whereas SWTOR would have only had one - Makeb.



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1/25/13 12:38:30 PM#156
Originally posted by Dihoru
Guess Bioware/EAturd paid you guys off for some more positive publicity.


They sure did.

My comment was deleted and it was the second comment so they didn't want people to see it I did not bash the game all i said with other MMORPG coming this year  i can't see how this could possibly own 2013.



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1/25/13 12:43:29 PM#157
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Take a minute, think, and realize that no one speaks for everyone.



I would of believed you....until you deleted my post. Fortunately someone qouted my orginal post so people can still see it.

They are not on the forums because the fans are the 1%. But hey, thanks for deleting my orginal post.


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1/25/13 12:47:53 PM#158
If you're pro-SWTOR, then you must have been paid off by BioWare.

If you're anti-SWTOR, then your an unbiased observer.

This community is trash.

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1/25/13 12:52:49 PM#159

Build a death star and hold the Earth hostage?

The recent DS initiative in US finally makes sense. Too bad Bioware didn't get it approved. Oh well, will the last one leaving the game please turn off the servers, please?


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1/25/13 3:44:07 PM#160
Heres a idea, make PvP enjoyable by fixing people getting perma-held. I extremely huge thing is no limit to amount of PvP matches a player can do, this 5 per week is absoluely asinine. Completely re do healers so people who put the majority of points into their build have more then just 1 conclusively crappy AoE heal, I have never played a MMO till I played this game where there was only I AoE heal at that heal was at the very end of the heal build and on top of that the heal was only a minor heal at best.
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