I have to agree with OP.

Im playing on Red Eclipse and when it says "heavy" or "very heavy" there really doesnt seem to be that many people around, typically 120 (in all instances) on Corellia where im at right now and there is a substancial wait for flashpoints groups.

Originally posted by Thebigthrill

My friend was playing SWTOR last week on a supposed heavy server.

Problem is it said heavy yet he saw just a few people. He went to a city and saw like 2-3 people.

I keep telling him to just pull the plug on this game and play a real mmorpg but he keeps asking me why the server says full yet he barely sees anyone.

So I didnt really have a answer for him the only thing I could think of was.

-The cap on these servers must be really low, is 50 people a full server?

-Ea is simply manipulating the servers just pressing the heavy option to make the server look full or heavy.

- I play wow on a medium server and I see tons of people in the cities and in the world. I can walk into Stormwind and see 80-150 people just around the auction house.

-The shards are seperating people but that still dosent explain how a heavy server has 2 people on tatooine.

 

Originally posted by Thebigthrill

-The cap on these servers must be really low, is 50 people a full server?

-Ea is simply manipulating the servers just pressing the heavy option to make the server look full or heavy.

- I play wow on a medium server and I see tons of people in the cities and in the world. I can walk into Stormwind and see 80-150 people just around the auction house.

-The shards are seperating people but that still dosent explain how a heavy server has 2 people on tatooine.

 

 Watch closely folks, im going to do something CRAZY here...say good AND bad. I know I know...nuts huh?

1. Caps are not low and will be explained below.

2. Yes, EA is manipulating the servers just not in the way you think. The entire idea of their going to mega servers is to make it "look" like its doing better by taking players from MANY servers and placing them on a FEW....thus making it look like the game is being played by a lot of people.

3. You cannot compare SWTOR to WoW. WoW was made in a way to give players actual REASONS to go to cities, hang out, talk...SWTOR does not, that is why so many people do not want to call it an MMO but instead a Single player game with online capabilities, it isnt a true MMORPG and goes out of its way to make sure players dont just hang out and interact.

4. Just because there are 2 people on Tatooine, doesnt mean there arent 100 on a starter world and 250 on one of the upper level planets...300 in the fleet. BTW the most I ever saw on Tat was mid 20s and that was a month after release long before the mass exodus took place.

Originally posted by Thebigthrill

- I play wow on a medium server and I see tons of people in the cities and in the world. I can walk into Stormwind and see 80-150 people just around the auction house.

 

 

Funny, when I enter Stormwind or Orgrimmar there's like 10 people max running around.

Originally posted by IG-88

I have to agree with OP.

Im playing on Red Eclipse and when it says "heavy" or "very heavy" there really doesnt seem to be that many people around, typically 120 (in all instances) on Corellia where im at right now and there is a substancial wait for flashpoints groups.

 

 

have to call you out on that one, i play on progenitor because there is usually a queue to get in on the red eclipse, plus, when fleet is crowded, which on red it usually is, the lag is so bad you can barely move, which is also why i chose to abandon red eclipse, although granted that was several weeks ago, you don't queue to get onto an empty server.
 as for queueing for flashpoints, yeah, some of them are a pain to get groups for, not sure what its like at higher levels but mid level range, seems like people are too busy levelling to do the flashpoints, although with my consular/healer spec i usually don't have any wait time at all..

Originally posted by Thebigthrill

My friend was playing SWTOR last week on a supposed heavy server.

Problem is it said heavy yet he saw just a few people. He went to a city and saw like 2-3 people.

I keep telling him to just pull the plug on this game and play a real mmorpg but he keeps asking me why the server says full yet he barely sees anyone.

So I didnt really have a answer for him the only thing I could think of was.

-The cap on these servers must be really low, is 50 people a full server?

-Ea is simply manipulating the servers just pressing the heavy option to make the server look full or heavy.

- I play wow on a medium server and I see tons of people in the cities and in the world. I can walk into Stormwind and see 80-150 people just around the auction house.

-The shards are seperating people but that still dosent explain how a heavy server has 2 people on tatooine.

 

You and your friend are both full of it, end of story. I'm guessing that you don't know what a real MMO is either. (Speculating, not assuming.) :)

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Thebigthrill

My friend was playing SWTOR last week on a supposed heavy server.

Problem is it said heavy yet he saw just a few people. He went to a city and saw like 2-3 people.

I keep telling him to just pull the plug on this game and play a real mmorpg but he keeps asking me why the server says full yet he barely sees anyone.

So I didnt really have a answer for him the only thing I could think of was.

-The cap on these servers must be really low, is 50 people a full server?

-Ea is simply manipulating the servers just pressing the heavy option to make the server look full or heavy.

- I play wow on a medium server and I see tons of people in the cities and in the world. I can walk into Stormwind and see 80-150 people just around the auction house.

-The shards are seperating people but that still dosent explain how a heavy server has 2 people on tatooine.

 

What a crock.  I guarentee your friend wasn't on Ord Mandell, Korriban,Hutta,Tyhon, Dromund Kaas, Corruscant or the Fleet. There is 17 planets in the game and each one has multiple shards. Not to mention Warzones, Ops and flashpoints that everyone is participating in which don't happen on any planets.Tattoine? No one goes to Tattoine after level 30 unless it's to do the HK quest or a companion quest. 

And 80-150 people in Stormwind? I would certainly hope so since it is a capital city . Go into Coruscant or Dromund Kaas and you'll see a lot of people there too.  Or go to the fleet where all the level 50s are waiting to PUG or play the GTN and there will be about 150 -200.

Maybe if you had actually played TOR you could explain this to your friend. If he even exists. 

It is not crock, it can be true, depending what instance they logged into. I logged in to the Red Eclipse a EU server after F2P on Coruscant and there was only 40 people, and thought "This can not be! F2P dead after a few hours?", but then after a few mins remembered the instances. On the other instance there was over 200.
 

People new to the game will not know this, as it is not obvious. Why not explain the situation instead of being condascending?

Originally posted by Tigasnake
120 People in Corellia is pretty damn good, dude.  

How can 120 players on a whole planet be "pretty damn good" ?

Its an MMO, isnt it?

Originally posted by IG-88

Originally posted by Tigasnake
120 People in Corellia is pretty damn good, dude.  

How can 120 players on a whole planet be "pretty damn good" ?

Its an MMO, isnt it?

So I suppose this means you think that every zone in World of Warcraft is filled with 120+ people at any given time right?

If so, you would be wrong. As with any game, there are some places that are heavily populated and others that aren't. Go figure.

Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...

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Originally posted by IG-88
Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...

 

 

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you are clearly trolling, in case anyone was wondering.

Originally posted by baphamet

 

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Originally posted by IG-88
Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...

 

 

 

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you are clearly trolling, in case anyone was wondering.

He could be lying, but Red Eclipse did have a multi-hour rollback yesterday.

Trolling is a term that has a definition which you don't seem to have a grasp on. The term trolling is not meant to be a gernade you toss into every thread you don't like something that is being said.

Originally posted by tiefighter25

Originally posted by baphamet

 

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Originally posted by IG-88
Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...

 

 

 

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you are clearly trolling, in case anyone was wondering.

He could be lying, but Red Eclipse did have a multi-hour rollback yesterday.

Trolling is a term that has a definition which you don't seem to have a grasp on. The term trolling is not meant to be a gernade you toss into every thread you don't like something that is being said.

120 per side in one zone is quite good, to me.  This isn't a "hang out" area like fleet, Main City, etc.  It's a leveling/daily area.  And while he may not be your version of trolling, he seems to be pretty close to it.

Oh, and the fleet I as on early today had 10 people in it.  It was the fourth fleet instance.  It was super empty! ;(

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Originally posted by tiefighter25

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Originally posted by baphamet  

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Originally posted by IG-88 Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...      

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  you are clearly trolling, in case anyone was wondering.

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He could be lying, but Red Eclipse did have a multi-hour rollback yesterday.

Trolling is a term that has a definition which you don't seem to have a grasp on. The term trolling is not meant to be a gernade you toss into every thread you don't like something that is being said.

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i know what trolling is thank you very much, lying to get people fired up and to respond to you is the very essence of what trolling is.

i don't accuse people of trolling in every thread either, not sure where the hell you got that from.

when people have legitimate concerns or things they don't like, okay. when people start lying (like in this thread) just for something new to bash the game for, i call them out for it.

if you don't like that, sorry but i don t give a shit lol

Originally posted by baphamet

 

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Originally posted by tiefighter25

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Originally posted by baphamet  

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Originally posted by IG-88 Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...      

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  you are clearly trolling, in case anyone was wondering.

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He could be lying, but Red Eclipse did have a multi-hour rollback yesterday.

 

Trolling is a term that has a definition which you don't seem to have a grasp on. The term trolling is not meant to be a gernade you toss into every thread you don't like something that is being said.

 

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i know what trolling is thank you very much, lying to get people fired up and to respond to you is the very essence of what trolling is.

i don't accuse people of trolling in every thread either, not sure where the hell you got that from.

when people have legitimate concerns or things they don't like, okay. when people start lying (like in this thread) just for something new to bash the game for, i call them out for it.

if you don't like that, sorry but i don t give a shit lol

Where is the lie?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=589230

Originally posted by baphamet

 

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Originally posted by tiefighter25

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Originally posted by baphamet  

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Originally posted by IG-88 Well, i dont play WOW. But now i have to go back and redo stuff i did yesterday, Red Eclipse rolled back 3-6h...      

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  you are clearly trolling, in case anyone was wondering.

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He could be lying, but Red Eclipse did have a multi-hour rollback yesterday.

 

Trolling is a term that has a definition which you don't seem to have a grasp on. The term trolling is not meant to be a gernade you toss into every thread you don't like something that is being said.

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i know what trolling is thank you very much, lying to get people fired up and to respond to you is the very essence of what trolling is.

i don't accuse people of trolling in every thread either, not sure where the hell you got that from.

when people have legitimate concerns or things they don't like, okay. when people start lying (like in this thread) just for something new to bash the game for, i call them out for it.

if you don't like that, sorry but i don t give a shit lol

He's not lying. They did have to do a roll back ...

rollback is not a bug,,its a feature

now we can have TWICE the fun with the same content

sadly it happens in all mmos,,remember how STO was at launch?

the big difference: STO  was apologizing, AND gave the players more info

BW just goes "our game is great, and people want to play it"