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  Torvaldr

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1/24/13 12:38:15 PM#41

Bill, I really appreciate you crediting Lineage.  I don't think it gets the recognition it deserves sometimes.

The interview is interesting.  I'm still watching this to see how he brings his vision to reality.

Trion is a good choice, and one I have mentioned before, but didn't really expect he would choose them because they're such a young company.  He didn't really have a lot of choices though as none of the other major NA publishers seem like a good fit.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Drinkingbear

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1/24/13 12:38:33 PM#42
Hooray! Come on Trion. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
  Thorkune

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1/24/13 12:39:03 PM#43
I had very little interest in AA. But, with Trion involved, I will definitely keep up with it now.
  Daxamar

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1/24/13 12:40:16 PM#44
Good news indeed! Been looking at this game for a few months and now Trion comes in!
  Torvaldr

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1/24/13 12:49:23 PM#45
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Rthuth434
Originally posted by Ramonski7
As long as the refrain from the asinine ads about the competition and worry more about the attitude toward their own games then Trion is indeed a good choice.
incoming gw2 bashing campaign followed by failure.

Trion also had their own "Not in Azeroth Anymore" along with some panda marketing blurb.  They've poked at WoW since before release.  It hasn't worked out so well for them.  They should focus and save the smack talking until after success.

No MMO can touch success of WOW but that doesn't mean Rift  isn't success and Trion isn't a success as a company.

And while we are subject on poking WOW..head honcho of GW2 Mike O Brian claimed he won't rest till he beats WOW and become number one.... what do you have to say about his pipe dream?

Rift isn't a failure but it's far from a success.  Rift only has two more servers than EQ2 (Rift 18, EQ2 16) and 6 of those 18 are language specific with middlin populations.  Guild Wars 2 has 51 servers of which 13 are language specific.  I think it's arrogant of the ANet team to make those claims and it's not something I appreciate, but he's actually working his way into that ballpark.

The problem with Trion's claims is that they aren't.  Instead of focusing, they marketed and experimented and failed with their "game as a service" mantra Hartsman had touted.  They've lost a huge number of players, lost a good portion of their focus and direction, and have two very risky games on the horizon.

Trion has a lot of potential, but they need to prove it.  They need to make one of their games a hallmark of success.  Maybe they will do that with ArcheAge because they haven't done it with Rift yet.  Maybe it will be Defiance, but I seriously doubt it.

Curse you AquaScum!

  GrayKodiak

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1/24/13 12:49:39 PM#46
They picked Trion, and all of MMORPG agrees on something for once a fine choice.
  Rayzer235

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1/24/13 12:53:37 PM#47
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Rthuth434
Originally posted by Ramonski7
As long as the refrain from the asinine ads about the competition and worry more about the attitude toward their own games then Trion is indeed a good choice.
incoming gw2 bashing campaign followed by failure.

Trion also had their own "Not in Azeroth Anymore" along with some panda marketing blurb.  They've poked at WoW since before release.  It hasn't worked out so well for them.  They should focus and save the smack talking until after success.

No MMO can touch success of WOW but that doesn't mean Rift  isn't success and Trion isn't a success as a company.

And while we are subject on poking WOW..head honcho of GW2 Mike O Brian claimed he won't rest till he beats WOW and become number one.... what do you have to say about his pipe dream?

Rift isn't a failure but it's far from a success.  Rift only has two more servers than EQ2 (Rift 18, EQ2 16) and 6 of those 18 are language specific with middlin populations.  Guild Wars 2 has 51 servers of which 13 are language specific.  I think it's arrogant of the ANet team to make those claims and it's not something I appreciate, but he's actually working his way into that ballpark.

The problem with Trion's claims is that they aren't.  Instead of focusing, they marketed and experimented and failed with their "game as a service" mantra Hartsman had touted.  They've lost a huge number of players, lost a good portion of their focus and direction, and have two very risky games on the horizon.

Trion has a lot of potential, but they need to prove it.  They need to make one of their games a hallmark of success.  Maybe they will do that with ArcheAge because they haven't done it with Rift yet.  Maybe it will be Defiance, but I seriously doubt it.

Mike O brien never said that 

  Doogiehowser

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1/24/13 12:58:48 PM#48
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Rthuth434
Originally posted by Ramonski7
As long as the refrain from the asinine ads about the competition and worry more about the attitude toward their own games then Trion is indeed a good choice.
incoming gw2 bashing campaign followed by failure.

Trion also had their own "Not in Azeroth Anymore" along with some panda marketing blurb.  They've poked at WoW since before release.  It hasn't worked out so well for them.  They should focus and save the smack talking until after success.

No MMO can touch success of WOW but that doesn't mean Rift  isn't success and Trion isn't a success as a company.

And while we are subject on poking WOW..head honcho of GW2 Mike O Brian claimed he won't rest till he beats WOW and become number one.... what do you have to say about his pipe dream?

Rift isn't a failure but it's far from a success.  Rift only has two more servers than EQ2 (Rift 18, EQ2 16) and 6 of those 18 are language specific with middlin populations.  Guild Wars 2 has 51 servers of which 13 are language specific.  I think it's arrogant of the ANet team to make those claims and it's not something I appreciate, but he's actually working his way into that ballpark.

The problem with Trion's claims is that they aren't.  Instead of focusing, they marketed and experimented and failed with their "game as a service" mantra Hartsman had touted.  They've lost a huge number of players, lost a good portion of their focus and direction, and have two very risky games on the horizon.

Trion has a lot of potential, but they need to prove it.  They need to make one of their games a hallmark of success.  Maybe they will do that with ArcheAge because they haven't done it with Rift yet.  Maybe it will be Defiance, but I seriously doubt it.

Google the proft Trion made from Rift after first year and you will see that for Trion it is a  success atleast for Trion as a company it is. They were a rookie studio and it was their first MMO. For company like Blizzard it might be peanuts but when you enter a business and starting from scratch and do what Trion did with Rift it is a major success.

No company puts money out of their pockets to release more content if they are not making profit. Not all cmpanies have deep pockets like Square ENix which can afford to keep a game going without any proft for almsot a year and then remake it. Certainly not Trion.

The only reason they released such a huge expac for Rift and still on board with Defiance is because they are actually making profit.

But no no comment on Mike O Brians obnoxious statement about how he wants to beat WOW and become number one? 

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  AmbrosiaAmor

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1/24/13 1:02:26 PM#49
OMFG THANK YOU TRION.

  wizyy

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1/24/13 1:11:09 PM#50
YEAHHHHHHHHHHH FINALLY!! Thank you TRION (I won't be trying RIFT again, though, I'm not THAT thankful :P)
  winter

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1/24/13 1:12:24 PM#51
 A players can only have 3 abilities that seems pretty limited by todays standards. is crafting one or more of the abilities?
  PsychoPigeon

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Posts: 587

1/24/13 1:20:21 PM#52
Originally posted by winter
 A players can only have 3 abilities that seems pretty limited by todays standards. is crafting one or more of the abilities?

An ability is a skill tree. 3 skill trees.

  FromHell

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1/24/13 1:21:41 PM#53

woah that is very cool, Archeage is in safe hands now for a western release :D

 

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  Brenelael

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1/24/13 1:26:09 PM#54
Originally posted by vtravi
Hmm 30 levels of tutorial. How many players are gonna quite before they get through the tutorial. I only need about an hour to figure out how a game works. This seems excessive

Not if the game has old school depth. I was still learning new stuff about the original EQ long past level 30. Archeage is suppossed to have this kind of depth to it.

 

As for Trion Worlds and XLGames working together I think they made an excellent choice. Other publishers like NCSoft, SOE or EA would try to take over the game sooner or later. Trion Worlds will probably give them the room to breath they need to make Archeage everything it should be in the west. This is actually great news. I may have not particularly liked Trion's past games but as a company they have the right attitude. Trion and Archeage are a perfect match in my honest opinion.

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  Tubbi

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1/24/13 1:28:21 PM#55
Good choice, looking forward to a european beta as well!
  soltyspl

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1/24/13 1:29:59 PM#56
I wonder how much of the world/content/whatever will be completely obsoleted at level cap ...

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  RefMinor

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1/24/13 1:31:15 PM#57
I may need to hunt out a happy clown face for my avatar now.
  Myrdynn

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1/24/13 1:32:04 PM#58

I think this marks the first time in MMORPG.com history that the entire site agrees on something

 

  PsyMike3d

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1/24/13 1:36:54 PM#59
indeed great choice!!! I remember Trion had also the best customer support by far!
  Swiftrevoir

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1/24/13 1:48:25 PM#60
o.O Talk about a savvy business move.  That's really unexpected.  *excited fist pump dance* 
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