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  Thorkune

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Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!

1/23/13 5:21:09 PM#21

Here is what needs to take place to make the game "own"

1. FFXIV type reboot

2. Refer to number 1

  ignore_me

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Posts: 1472

"but these go to eleven."

1/23/13 5:22:30 PM#22
Originally posted by Karteli

To me, the graphics engine is what holds this game down the most.  Second only to EA's horrible customer service, largely caused by CS being bogged down with buggy releases, generating more tickets than they can handle.

 

A MMO that peaks with 16 players on-screen at once isn't very massively.  But hey if you have a $5,000 computer you can get almost the same framerates as the starting area in WoW's Alterac Valley with 40 players.  To actually play something like AV (40 vs 40) you would need a supercomputer.  Great engine.

 

As for where EA spent a chuck of their time, yes it was in creating the cashshop interface and other freemium aspects.  It is still ongoing, since EA's Damion Schubert admitted that upcoming cartel items have "long lead times.", thus still consuming large developer resources.

This is Bioware speak for "Probably Never"

You want to throw away your money developing something stupid, go ahead.

  Revy106

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Posts: 33

1/23/13 5:23:09 PM#23
Why on earth does MMORPG keep trying to put SWKOTOR in a good light all the time?? its a failed mmo that we should just leave and let it die
  BillMurphy

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1/23/13 5:26:55 PM#24
Originally posted by Revy106
Why on earth does MMORPG keep trying to put SWKOTOR in a good light all the time?? its a failed mmo that we should just leave and let it die

I'm not saying it's the greatest thing ever, and Mike clearly likes it more than you do, but there are definitely still fans of the game and BioWare.  They're just probably not on these forums.  ;)  

Take a minute, think, and realize that no one speaks for everyone.

  kyssari

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"Reality is but a figment of our collective imaginations." -N.E.S.

1/23/13 5:27:14 PM#25
Sorry but any mmo tyhat advertises f2p and is actually p2p in the fact that as soon as you encounter a game breaking bug that doesn't allow you to play the game anymore can not even be reported let alone fixed until you pay a subscription fee to gain access to customer support.... Total fail...So much potential lost thanks once again to corporate big business asshats (aka EA) who only care about making money isntead of making good games :\
  kyssari

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"Reality is but a figment of our collective imaginations." -N.E.S.

1/23/13 5:27:58 PM#26
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Revy106
Why on earth does MMORPG keep trying to put SWKOTOR in a good light all the time?? its a failed mmo that we should just leave and let it die

I'm not saying it's the greatest thing ever, and Mike clearly likes it more than you do, but there are definitely still fans of the game and BioWare.  They're just probably not on these forums.  ;)  

Take a minute, think, and realize that no one speaks for everyone.

 

I am totally stilla fan of Bioware just not the bs that was corrupted by EA

  The1ceQueen

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"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

1/23/13 5:30:36 PM#27

You can't be serious...Swtor own in 2013? It flopped after it came out. With all its problems there's no way it can ever be a hit.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

1/23/13 5:31:25 PM#28

Makeb looks really promissing and population is very healthy... will it own 2013? We will see. it all depends how Makeb will do and how many content updates we will get.

This post brought haters back strong I see... some of you I even did not recognize LOL

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  User Deleted
1/23/13 5:36:50 PM#29
I think the time in which SWTOR could have been a hit has long passed. However, that doesn't stop me from enjoying it. The servers are packed, I found a fun guild, and I like my Imperial Agent. Also, you can play for free.
  Skuall

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1/23/13 5:43:36 PM#30
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Makeb looks really promissing and population is very healthy... will it own 2013? We will see. it all depends how Makeb will do and how many content updates we will get.

This post brought haters back strong I see... some of you I even did not recognize LOL

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

only rival teso? lol

 

oh yeah swtor has no rival because plays in another league...the league of mmos forced to go f2p to survive

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

1/23/13 5:45:43 PM#31
Originally posted by Skuall
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Makeb looks really promissing and population is very healthy... will it own 2013? We will see. it all depends how Makeb will do and how many content updates we will get.

This post brought haters back strong I see... some of you I even did not recognize LOL

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

only rival teso? lol

 

oh yeah swtor has no rival because plays in another league...the league of mmos forced to go f2p to survive

And you won't see any more strict P2P model in incoming MMOs as it's obviously outdated :). I bet on this.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Thorkune

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Posts: 1582

Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!

1/23/13 5:47:24 PM#32
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

Do not underestimate The Repopulation. My old SWG guild members (some are playing SWTOR) are chomping at the bit to play it. It's looking like it will be another SWG style MMO...finally.

  Sevenstar61

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Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1215

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

1/23/13 5:48:55 PM#33
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

Do not underestimate The Repopulation. My old SWG guild members (some are playing SWTOR) are chomping at the bit to play it. It's looking like it will be another SWG style MMO...finally.

We will see... I wish it to success.. but I am not going to even try it... as well as any of my friends who play SWTOR...  not everybody likes SWG style MMOs


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Thorkune

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Joined: 9/28/06
Posts: 1582

Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!

1/23/13 5:50:38 PM#34
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

Do not underestimate The Repopulation. My old SWG guild members (some are playing SWTOR) are chomping at the bit to play it. It's looking like it will be another SWG style MMO...finally.

not everybody likes SWG style MMOs

I liked SWG because I like Star Wars.

  theoneandonly

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Life - the one and only MMO. All the rest will FAIL!!!!

1/23/13 5:53:15 PM#35
It can but it wont. Tera brings more promising changes.
  Sevenstar61

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Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1215

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

1/23/13 5:53:50 PM#36
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

Do not underestimate The Repopulation. My old SWG guild members (some are playing SWTOR) are chomping at the bit to play it. It's looking like it will be another SWG style MMO...finally.

not everybody likes SWG style MMOs

I liked SWG because I like Star Wars...

And The Repopulation is far from Star Wars. I am sure it will be a Heaven for sanbox fans, if it will meet their sky high expectations...


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Ktara

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Joined: 11/15/08
Posts: 38

1/23/13 5:56:17 PM#37

The only thing SWToR did for me was kill any remaining trust I had with Bioware (now that they've been devoured by EA) and my fascination with the Star Wars universe.  I was a huge fan, a Trekker if you will, for Star Wars.  I know the lore a lot, I loved that world.  ToR killed it entirely.  I don't even want to wear my "Come to the darkside, we have cookies...-V" teeshirt. 

This game is unplayable for me.  According to what I've seen on the pay grid, I'd have to pay to use any of my bank slots/ship slots, crafting, etc...my characters are all stuck in story missions that are too difficult to finish, and it's just too much of the same old, same old. 

I'm looking forward to The Repopulation and Greed Monger.  I'm playing Wurm Online now, and having a blast!  I want sandbox.  You couldn't pay me enough to play another theme park anymore, they're just not any fun.

Someone said sit in chairs...yes, please.  I want to be able to sit down and RP in a game that purports to be an RP haven.  ToR could have at least given us that.

  Yizle

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1/23/13 6:02:58 PM#38
MMORPG.com have a silent partner in Bioware or something I am not aware of?
 
  erictlewis

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1/23/13 6:09:46 PM#39

Well lets see they could do the following

(1) night/day cycles to make the worlds more living

(2) take space of rails

(3) add more content at all levels since they made it a solo game we need more quest

(4) limit voice overs to main character story line

But who am I kidding with a limited staff and buggets in the red, not even mentioned on financial reports any more, yea none of this is going to happen. 

 

  ignore_me

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"but these go to eleven."

1/23/13 6:11:53 PM#40
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by bigsmiff
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

From what I see from list of game to be released in 2013 the only rival is TESO... we shall see

Do not underestimate The Repopulation. My old SWG guild members (some are playing SWTOR) are chomping at the bit to play it. It's looking like it will be another SWG style MMO...finally.

We will see... I wish it to success.. but I am not going to even try it... as well as any of my friends who play SWTOR...  not everybody likes SWG style MMOs

As a hater, I would say that you should not read my posts Seven. In a way what I say doesn't really apply to you since you love the game.

You want to throw away your money developing something stupid, go ahead.

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