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General Discussion  » Is Black Deserts the real Elder Scrolls Online?

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  Faiyez

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1/23/13 9:27:21 AM#21

This thread is an example of why there's a correlation between western MMOs and horrible communities.

  dinams

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1/23/13 9:30:23 AM#22

Lets just welcome our korean overlords....

Atleast they dont base their games on early first decade games (only on lineage...)

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  hikaru77

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1/23/13 9:34:30 AM#23
Originally posted by alyosha17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SNFSw107MQs

 

It seems like it has more features relevant to an Elder Scrolls game.  Action combat, mounted combat, housing, seamless world, plus the aesthetics are similar.  It has a very western, almost Tolkien-esque look.

Is a korean MMO, everyone should know what that mean, It looks awesome and epic till you actually play it. 

  Betaguy

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1/23/13 9:34:41 AM#24
I got as far as 1:25 in and when I seen the little Japanamation character models I promptly closed it out.  Up until that point the world was impressive but I don't see how it has more features like TESO, than TESO from just watching a video.  No way to tell how the mechanics work.

  dinams

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1/23/13 9:39:22 AM#25
Originally posted by Betaguy
I got as far as 1:25 in and when I seen the little Japanamation character models I promptly closed it out.  Up until that point the world was impressive but I don't see how it has more features like TESO, than TESO from just watching a video.  No way to tell how the mechanics work.

Not wanting to go into merit here...

But TESO gameplay videos dont exactly show much either

Besides, you watched 1/5 of the video, practically the intro of it and closed on intolerance and expect to see many features? ;D

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  Grotar89

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1/23/13 9:39:56 AM#26
Originally posted by Betaguy
I got as far as 1:25 in and when I seen the little Japanamation character models I promptly closed it out.  Up until that point the world was impressive but I don't see how it has more features like TESO, than TESO from just watching a video.  No way to tell how the mechanics work.

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  jtcgs

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1/23/13 9:51:13 AM#27
Originally posted by DSWBeef
First Archeage now this. Korea knows the future of mmos. Korea you finally have my attention.

 1. I dont care what anyone says, 3:30 mark...now THAT is an escort quest!

2. Korea has had the pulse of the MMO market for a very long time. The Lineage games had Asian combat but a western world for a long time, NCsoft is Korean and they proved with Guild Wars 1 they were making games with a Western market in mind. Nexon another Korean company is the second largest game company on the planet now behind only EA in terms of profits, think about that for a second...Perfect World, they opened offices in America and Europe and hired developers to make western style updates for their asian games a few years ago because they want their games to be for everyone...how many companies do that?

So, with games like Lineage, Guild Wars, Tera...Archeage, Black Deserts is not a surprise to me!

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  Vorthanion

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1/23/13 9:52:27 AM#28
Originally posted by Grotar89
Originally posted by DMKano

Archeage is CryEngine3 which is about 100x better than whatever crap is used in this game.

 

AA is also on rails quest grinder, with tab target combat  1+2+3+4 spam that crap has been in MMOs since EQ, No ty.

Almost all upcoming MMOs have actipny combat.

ArcheAge doesnt look that impressive if you watched some streams from open beta you would see that game is nothing like trailers charachter models are also bland and boring.....

I will take Black Desert anytime before AA, and it has more sanbox elements than AA.

Thank goodness not every single MMO coming out in the near future is going to embrace action combat.  There are an awful lot of gamers like me who would be more than happy to play without the twitch.  Also, I think you are vastly underestimating the number of MMO gamers who don't like action combat.  We are more than enough reason to keep making at least a few games that play at a slower pace.

  koboldfodder

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1/23/13 9:53:27 AM#29

The World Graphics and the Character Graphics simply do not mesh.

 

The world LOOKs amazing.  Looks perfect.  Looks like a Skyrim type of world, where things are based on realism.  Then you look at the characters in action, and it looks like some sort of console action/combo game....where people in plate armor are flipping about in the air.

 

Asian MMOs have NEVER be able to mesh combat/character style with a real world setting.  It's all about cliche anime stock players.  You have the tall, effiminate elven race.  You have the short, cute race.  There is probably a girl only race that has fur or ears.  There there is the standard human race.  Oh, and the giant "beast" race which looks metro sexual.

 

Everyone is pretty in an Asian MMO.

 

I am totally fine with them making that type of game....if the world looks like it fits the characters that inhabit it.  Like FFXIV....yes, the game sucks, but the characters and the world seem to fit nicely together.

 

Western developers cannot create the actual game world right.  They get the characters down great.  But they screw up with the world, creating some sort of themepark hybrid that no one really wants.  Easter developers totally nail the world aspect of creation, but they always screw up on the characters.

 

Traditional high fantasy VS Anime fantasy.  It's a pretty big difference.

  User Deleted
1/23/13 9:56:04 AM#30
After watching the video I don't see anything in this game to look like TES but looks like what Lineage 3 would have been specially the fighting system remind me old Korean grinders and not action like fighting of TES.
  dinams

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1/23/13 9:59:22 AM#31
Originally posted by Kenshin_Himura
After watching the video I don't see anything in this game to look like TES but looks like what Lineage 3 would have been specially the fighting system remind me old Korean grinders and not action like fighting of TES.

What?

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  Torvaldr

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1/23/13 10:08:24 AM#32
Originally posted by Vorthanion
Originally posted by Grotar89
Originally posted by DMKano

Archeage is CryEngine3 which is about 100x better than whatever crap is used in this game.

 

AA is also on rails quest grinder, with tab target combat  1+2+3+4 spam that crap has been in MMOs since EQ, No ty.

Almost all upcoming MMOs have actipny combat.

ArcheAge doesnt look that impressive if you watched some streams from open beta you would see that game is nothing like trailers charachter models are also bland and boring.....

I will take Black Desert anytime before AA, and it has more sanbox elements than AA.

Thank goodness not every single MMO coming out in the near future is going to embrace action combat.  There are an awful lot of gamers like me who would be more than happy to play without the twitch.  Also, I think you are vastly underestimating the number of MMO gamers who don't like action combat.  We are more than enough reason to keep making at least a few games that play at a slower pace.

Slow combat doesn't have to be boring though.  The problem with a lot of tab-targeted slower combat systems, like LotRO, VG, and EQ2, is that the combat system is boring and slow.  Rift hasn't really done anything to make the static combat system any better or feel more engaging.  Some of the older turn-based combat systems of console games were more interesting (PS1: Legend of the Dragoons) than the same old static combat we've seen over and over and over again.

What do you have to back up your claim that he's vastly underestimating the number of players who don't like action combat if given a choice in a new game?  Is that based on intuition and feeling?  Because I have the opposite feeling, but no real evidence to support it.

  Varthander

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1/23/13 10:13:05 AM#33
Looks nice but im not impressed, for me looks like a Vindictus with open world.

  Sovrath

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1/23/13 10:14:37 AM#34
love it, sign me up.
  jtcgs

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1/23/13 11:01:47 AM#35
Originally posted by Varthander
Looks nice but im not impressed, for me looks like a Vindictus with open world.

 That is actually an excellent idea. Vindictus had perfect action combat and a great setting, the MMORPG genre needs a good action based game to end the bad attempts at it like Tera.

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  DeserttFoxx

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1/23/13 11:09:07 AM#36
Another MMo that is 3 years off, and probably wont be translated into english.

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  shathira

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1/23/13 11:18:46 AM#37
Seems like that was an awful lot of cutscene animation, which everyone has the capability to make look astounding these days.  The gameplay seemed like the camera was very choppy, trying to keep up with character animation, and I agree with a previous comment about the constant flashes on hit/swing were headache enducing.  We'll see where it goes to from here.
  steelheartx

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1/23/13 11:25:34 AM#38

Thought that it looked pretty good for being a few years out.  Curious to see how it shapes up!

 

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  Istavaan

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1/23/13 11:31:00 AM#39
Korean mmo trailers never make any sense, it's ooh that looks nice but what the fuck is going on. here?
  Istavaan

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1/23/13 11:32:27 AM#40
Originally posted by alyosha17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SNFSw107MQs

 

It seems like it has more features relevant to an Elder Scrolls game.  Action combat, mounted combat, housing, seamless world, plus the aesthetics are similar.  It has a very western, almost Tolkien-esque look.

How can you make that assumption when you know pretty much nothing about TESO?

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