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1/23/13 11:01:09 AM#101
Bigsmiff. How does what he said about crafting make it sound like a typical themepark?
If it was typical themepark he would say "raiders will get everything, pvpers will come second, crafters get the scraps" He don't say that at all, he said you will need to do everything if you want the best of everything. I don't think it will be as craft orientated as a full on sandbox like eve. It can't be with no player looting and item wear to drive the ecconomy. But I think they will make crafting as important as it was in daoc, which is a huge step up from how wow type games handle crafting. They mentioned soul gems and soul trap before so hopefully the actual crafting process is as good as skyrim too. |
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ghettoceleb
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1/23/13 12:45:06 PM#102
it is going to be the best ever. i cant wait.
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1/23/13 2:35:09 PM#103
Take a franchise, remove everything that fans love about it, make it like WOW, promote it like mad, Tortanic all over again.
mmorpg.com/blogs/Xobdnas |
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1/23/13 2:43:17 PM#104
Originally posted by Xobdnas fans will always bitch about something, fans of morrowind bitched about oblivion because it was so dumbed down in comparison. |
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1/23/13 2:52:21 PM#105
Originally posted by ShakyMo I am not giving up on it, I just don't think that it sounds like the crafting system that hardcore crafters have been looking for. What I meant by typical themepark is "he said you will need to do everything if you want the best of everything". That statement to me has the spin of you can loot uber items in many different way. That's a shame, because most hardcore crafters want a crafter dependant system for the best gear...not quest gear and loot drops. |
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1/23/13 2:54:28 PM#106
Out of all that, I only needed one sentence to make me excited for this game: "They want people to be able to play the game how they like, and if that means crafting is their main way to get items, then so be it."
In Skyrim, I play an Orc Blacksmith. I haven't done any quests outside of escaping Helgen. i run around gather ore, blacksmith stuff and sell it to shops...and I couldn't be happier with it :D "Well, there was a time when I was quick to judge others based on what little I'd heard. But... traveling with even the worst, slimiest, smelliest of tieflings and no-honor tree-worshipping elves has taught me some of them are all right." -Khelgar Ironfist |
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1/23/13 6:05:52 PM#107
Originally posted by ShakyMo I appreciate your mature response. I fully expected to get reamed for my strong opinions against this game. We're all gamers here and all would LOVE a good TES MMORPG. I'm just really conscerned about them making changes to appeal to the MMORPG market, when in fact, everyone who has talked about a TES MMORPG has always said keep things the way they are. I'll be barely watching, but watching the way this game progresses. Who know, perhaps it'll surprise me. The DAoC bit doesn't impress me, even though my first and most favorite MMORPG was DAoC, because GW2 and TSW both failed at it. |
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1/23/13 6:20:37 PM#108
Originally posted by bigsmiff Right, but the hardcore raiders want to have exclusive access to the best gear. The pvp players want pvp gear to finally be the best. The overland solo, duo, and small group players want overland drops to be the best. Who do they please? I love crafting and farming mobs for drops. I don't mind pvp or dungeon running, but I hate have to grind either of those for gear and character progression. I like the idea of gearing up exactly how I like to play. I'll probably skip the game because I'm not really into daoc pvp and having the "pvp zone", along with faction restricted map access, so it doesn't really matter to me. Updating my journal. |
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1/23/13 6:32:22 PM#109
Nate
I'm reserving judgement until I know more. I'm highly suspect of certain aspects like the megaserver, only having the one ruleset (i think daoc had it best with its 3 rulesets, and the other 2 might play more like how people would think a tes mmo plays) and especially the phased epic you are the hero stuff that gives me swtor shudders. But I love Morrowind, skyrim and daoc. And unlike some recent games, zenimax certainly have the mmo talent to pull this off with their ex daoc, uo, swg & coh devs, plus engine talent with the Id guys on the team. To me though would feel more like tes if they had a mordred style server for the likes of me. I guess many pure pve types would like a coop server too. I really hope they rethink the whole server business. |
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1/24/13 5:42:54 AM#110
Slow dat hypetrain. All this game ever had in common with TES is the name - it's not even the same company that makes it. I'm not saying it's going to be bad, but don't get so excited before we've seen the game in action.
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1/24/13 7:52:38 AM#111
Originally posted by Vonatar DOaC2 in Tamriel? How is that a bad thing again? |
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1/24/13 8:03:43 AM#112
Signed up for beta! As an Elder Scrolls fan and a MMO fan I realize there will be certain features that will not cross over and work well in a MMO world nor would the game engine and implementation work on a MMO setup. I AM OK WITH THAT. With all that has been released so far about the game I am excited and thrilled with the direction Zenimax/Bethesda is taking the game. Some of my biggest desires is for them NOT to lose the lore and story telling of the ES series, for them to keep true to the play and level how you want (combat mage and shadow spellsword 2 of my favorite made classes), and the focus on skill rather than gear for your gameplay. Blank-man |
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1/24/13 11:45:11 AM#113
Originally posted by cronius77Maybe because TES is NOT a game based on traditional MMO elements that are old, outdated and smacks of more of the same. But we do thank you for coming here to bitch and moan about people that bitch and moan trying to protect a beloved IP from being bastardized by a company stuck 10 years in the past. “I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson |
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Mildoze
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Joined: 7/21/12
"Think for yourself and question authority." Timmothy Leary |
1/24/13 11:00:31 PM#114
Oh there was a time when I was leary about this whole thing. I'm realizing now that there is good reason for them keeping this thing under wraps for so long. I, like so many others cried foul when I heard they we're to make an ES MMO. Now, after listening in to all these fireside chats, I must say with all ernsty, that I am extremely impressed. I hope to get a shot at this beta, but either way, short of some sort of terrible outcry from the eventual open beta, I think this one is going to be a day one purchase for me.
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1/25/13 9:56:18 AM#115
I'm really looking forward for this game... I just subscribe for the BETA =) I'm hoping I'll be picked.
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1/25/13 12:55:02 PM#116
Originally posted by Vonatar DAoC 2 in Tamriel. I'm fine with that. Actually more than fine, CANT WAIT. GIEF DAoC 2 NOW PLEEZ! :D |
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1/25/13 1:25:59 PM#117
Loking forward to playing the beta soon :)
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1/25/13 1:33:15 PM#118
Originally posted by Yukmarc Probably because if Mr Firor wants to make DAoC2 then he should make DAoC2. Not twist and butcher The Elder Scrolls IP into making it DAoC2
I would love to see a DAoC2. I just dont want to see the ruination of Elder Scrolls just for the sake of it Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR |
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1/25/13 2:10:25 PM#119
I like the idea of crafting being important, but not at the expense of adventurers who aren't interested in it at all. Let's hope they can make the reward systems actually rewarding for everyone.
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1/26/13 8:17:03 AM#120
Originally posted by Aeonblades I loved DAoC and if this is version 2 of that game I am all in. With it set in Tameriel its even better. Along with crafting that actualy has a use and is on par with dropped loot is starting to make think this maybe the mmo to keep me bussy for a long time. As for hype I didn't get any urge to play GW2 nor do I have any urge to play it. I hated GW1 so stayed away from the second outting of the game. SWTOR failed due to poor design not poor pvp. SWTOR over all was a poor game it was just WoW mechanics with Star Wars paint over it.
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