[Edit: This is why we just can't have nice things.]

It seems like botters may be becoming a problem for AcheAge.

http://archeagesource.com/topic/1301-inpact-of-botters/

I don't expect a Korean developer to go after botters very aggressively. This could be a gamebreaker for me.

Anyone else see botters in game? How do you think botters will affect AA?

It depends on a publisher - its all about what the publisher will do to address the problem.

Korean publishers may not give a damn, it doesn't mean that it will be the same in other regions.

It might take the publisher, whoever it is, to adjust to the problem.

Once started, it shouldn't present a problem, period.

To be fair during the OB the botting was everywhere. Other players were scared of killing them from fear of going to prison.

Video of Bot trains in OB

Botting is very harmful in a game like AA, as resources are needed to build cities, to siege and conquer. To repair your city after an attack, to rebuild your conquered city as you see fit.

But Xl games has been taking a hard stance on botting since release.
Just yesterday they banned 22,000 accounts

One of the reasons why ArcheAge is beating both Aion and Blade and Soul in Korea is XL games communication with the public, and their great customer service.

Originally posted by Kumapon

 

But Xl games has been taking a hard stance on botting since release.
Just yesterday they banned 22,000 accounts

One of the reasons why ArcheAge is beating both Aion and Blade ans Soul in Korea is XL games communication with the public, and their great customer service.

This is encouraging and I hope botters will be deterred and soon eliminated from this game.

Originally posted by MMOExposed
I am confused. how does Botters effect non botters? I usually just ignore them and have fun doing whats fun to me. why worry what others do?

Exactly, but they do effect the player based economy which is a bad thing.Since AA isnt your average loot based economy system botters usualy help mess up balance in a player based economy. But with open world pvp, just kill em all.

Originally posted by MMOExposed
I am confused. how does Botters effect non botters? I usually just ignore them and have fun doing whats fun to me. why worry what others do?

i guess you never played a ressource driven MMORPG ?

Botters will collect lots of materials and will influence the economoy+having a huge advantage because of better gear.

Running bot-scripts tend to put servers on very high load. Because of all the information, wich a normal human player dont create when played normaly.

Bots should always be reported.

Originally posted by MMOExposed
I am confused. how does Botters effect non botters? I usually just ignore them and have fun doing whats fun to me. why worry what others do?

you seemed to understand whatever problems they posed when GW2 had its upflare in botting. hilarious.

Botters ruin the Economy, especially in games where important gear / consumables / crafting parts are tradeable. Sure in a game where the best gear is bound and farmed in an instance / raid. This isn't much of an issue. But as soon as you have a more sandbox approach to items and gear you run into the following issues:

There are steps to how Botters and (farmers who have bots run) affect YOUR game:

1. Step: They dump the prices for common materials and gear (consumables). Which doesn't sound bad - but this also means what you regulary get dropped from monsters is worth nothing and will not let you earn any money.

2. Step: Rare ingredients / Gear will be broader in supply (bots farm more than any regular player driven economy could) but will be ridiculous priced.

3. Step: due to huge amount of money generated vs spend (bot's don't consume, don't gear rare gear, they only bring materials and money into the market) they make the money *YOU* have less worth. The botter's are so incredibly rich compared to normal playing people.

4. Step: Botters block *Your* farming and monster spawns. Not every game is Free pvp - so you are out of luck to fight a monster there or need at least to spend huge chunks of your time dealing with them rather than earning xp / ressources / gold in an pvp game.

4. Step: You are tempted to buy huge summs of inflated Gold, because what you can earn as an invidual player is less than you could ever hope for. Or spend the rest of your game to farm for medicore gear. (Those games are not build and balanced around that an indivdual gamer or a small band of players could viable farm everything they want on their own. Trading is a planned must.)

Originally posted by Niburu

Originally posted by MMOExposed
I am confused. how does Botters effect non botters? I usually just ignore them and have fun doing whats fun to me. why worry what others do?

i guess you never played a ressource driven MMORPG ?

 

Botters will collect lots of materials and will influence the economoy+having a huge advantage because of better gear.

I don't mind botters at all, as long as it doesnt ruin my fun with the game.

FFXI - botters were rampant. but the economy sucked already, things was way over priced (wasn't because of botters), I knew several people who sold mats + items way way over priced. but i didn't really buy things or sell things on the AH, so it wasn't a big deal for me. Oh yeah crafting was all about farming and grinding till you got sick, so i didn't really blame botters.

Warhammer Online - didn't see alot of botters, but my guildmaster on my server controlled the AH. of coure everyone complained on the warhammer forum about him all the time.

WoW - i left after burning crusade, botters/farmers didn't effect my game play

Ultima Online - well not real botters,  but it didnt affect us in any way because you could just kill them if they were botting (pre-tram)

SWTOR - didn't affect me at all

GW2 - there was and still some botters (using map hacks) but it doesn't affect a player since everyone gets a node for themselves it seems.

anyways i've played lots of major title MMOs and having botters never ruined the game for me and i'm a major crafter nut.

the ONLY thing that annoys me to no end, is the constant whispers/tells  of gold offers,  thats the only thing that pisses me off.

Originally posted by wallet113

Originally posted by Niburu

Originally posted by MMOExposed
I am confused. how does Botters effect non botters? I usually just ignore them and have fun doing whats fun to me. why worry what others do?

i guess you never played a ressource driven MMORPG ?

 

Botters will collect lots of materials and will influence the economoy+having a huge advantage because of better gear.

I don't mind botters at all, as long as it doesnt ruin my fun with the game.

FFXI - botters were rampant. but the economy sucked already, things was way over priced (wasn't because of botters), I knew several people who sold mats + items way way over priced. but i didn't really buy things or sell things on the AH, so it wasn't a big deal for me. Oh yeah crafting was all about farming and grinding till you got sick, so i didn't really blame botters.

Warhammer Online - didn't see alot of botters, but my guildmaster on my server controlled the AH. of coure everyone complained on the warhammer forum about him all the time.

WoW - i left after burning crusade, botters/farmers didn't effect my game play

Ultima Online - well not real botters,  but it didnt affect us in any way because you could just kill them if they were botting (pre-tram)

SWTOR - didn't affect me at all

GW2 - there was and still some botters (using map hacks) but it doesn't affect a player since everyone gets a node for themselves it seems.

anyways i've played lots of major title MMOs and having botters never ruined the game for me and i'm a major crafter nut.

the ONLY thing that annoys me to no end, is the constant whispers/tells  of gold offers,  thats the only thing that pisses me off.

Actually, in GW2 bots do affect the players, but not in the way most people think. I remember sometime ago there were lots of posts in the forums complaining about how prices for gold to gems and raw crafting materials in the trading post were increasing so much... well, I'd say it's working as expected considering that just a few days ago there were reported mass banning of thousands of bot accounts, who were farming gold to sell by mass farming raw materials and selling on trading post.

Originally posted by Rthuth434

Originally posted by MMOExposed
I am confused. how does Botters effect non botters? I usually just ignore them and have fun doing whats fun to me. why worry what others do?

you seemed to understand whatever problems they posed when GW2 had its upflare in botting. hilarious.

 haha. Owned!

There's really no telling how it will go down here.

Archeage just banned 25,000 botters accounts so they are being pretty strict, Blade and Soul currently has a huge bot problem as well and so did TERA.

However when TERA released here very few bots were around in comparison to Korea, so little in fact most players never saw one, you had to know where to look to see the odd bot. So with that being said, well have to wait and see how it plays out.

Originally posted by PWN_FACE

This could be a gamebreaker for me.

Originally posted by Kumapon
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But Xl games has been taking a hard stance on botting since release.
Just yesterday they banned 22,000 accounts

One of the reasons why ArcheAge is beating both Aion and Blade and Soul in Korea is XL games communication with the public, and their great customer service.

Glad to hear that.  Bots will be in any game really, so it really just comes down to the proportion of bots to legitimate players.  Some games are definitely better than others in this area.

An interesting security feature in that article you linked is that there is an option to check / uncheck "use only 1 computer".  Very useful, I'd say, to avoid misunderstandings (like unnecessary account locks in WoW) - check it off when you are in 1 locale for awhile, uncheck it when you are traveling.