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News & Features Discussion  » [Interview] Elder Scrolls Online: Paul Sage Talks Beta, Crafting, and Progression

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1/22/13 5:12:44 PM#41
Originally posted by Vonatar
Originally posted by Aeonblades
My friends and I have been waiting for an Elder Scrolls MMO since Morrowind. Here's to hoping they get it right, I have faith!

They haven't. If you like me have been hoping for a true Elder Scrolls MMO this isn't it. This is DAoC 2 in Tamriel. Not saying it will be a bad game, and maybe it'll be fun to play, but take it for what it is. Otherwise you'll just be disappointed.

if that is true i will be playing it for years to come. sorry but DAOC was one of the best MMORPGs EVER so saying its DAOC 2 in Tamriel is a compliment.


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1/22/13 5:20:27 PM#42

Hype. Means nothing to me.

I do hope I get into the beta though.


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1/22/13 5:29:47 PM#43
If crafting is an important part of this game,  which it wasn't for Rift or GW2, then they have my attention. However, I'm still hesitant to get too hyped until I see some meaningful info and gameplay.

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1/22/13 5:45:04 PM#44
Originally posted by bendwc10
If crafting is an important part of this game,  which it wasn't for Rift or GW2, then they have my attention. However, I'm still hesitant to get too hyped until I see some meaningful info and gameplay.

this guy worked on UO.  His boss worked on DAOC.  Crafting is extremely important in both thoose games and the TES single player series,  I think crafting will have a larger slice of the pie than in your typical wow style mmo.


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1/22/13 5:45:29 PM#45
Originally posted by bcbully

*raises hand*


The combat and itemization sound really good, but I think confining pvp to a single zone will hurt this game replayability. I'm really concerned about his. I'm concerned from experience. Swtor, TSW, and GW2 tried this. As a pvpr these 3 games all lacked staying power.


I like a lot of what I'm reading about the game, but I, too, would rather have PVP in all zones. At least they could put in a WOW-like flagging system where you couldn't initiate a fight in the two enemy territories unless the enemy was flagged for PVP, but you could, of course, attack them in your own homeland or in Cyrodil.

The fact that you can't even visit the enemy territories is a bit disappointing. Almost guarantees I'd roll three characters from the get go. :)

As of now, this is my one big beef with the game. Maybe along with "no aggro tanking", if I heard that right.



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1/22/13 5:47:58 PM#46
Originally posted by Sideras
Originally posted by bcbully

*raises hand*


The combat and itemization sound really good, but I think confining pvp to a single zone will hurt this game replayability. I'm really concerned about his. I'm concerned from experience. Swtor, TSW, and GW2 tried this. As a pvpr these 3 games all lacked staying power.

GW2 failed with it's WvW because there was no damn incentive other than "I want my server to be the best in the world", dumbest decision they made in the game imo. There was no server pride as people freely jumped from server to server and the lack of identity really hurt it aswell. There was no progression either and it turned into massive zergs and contrary to popular belief there wasn't much meaningful or even fun times to be had in a small group.

DAoC had the best PvP ever imo, and that was confined into one zone. And I would still be playing DAoC but the movement and controls are just too damn dated.

also add NO RIVALRY.  I just got killed by random nameless dude from some unknown guild from that server we happen to be randomly paired with this week.

Theres no real reason to control the map in planetside 2 either, but i find it way way more enjoyavble than wvw as I have rivals and best enemies.


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1/22/13 6:17:12 PM#47

This game will be the suprise hit of 2013.

Feel free to quote me in future ;j


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1/22/13 6:35:28 PM#48

I expect it to be torn to shreads here like all the past MMO's. People seem to feed on saying negative things about any game. Beta was just annouced and the trash talk started and will continue.


I for one am looking forward to ESO.


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1/22/13 6:38:03 PM#49

Well, they're making it sound better and better, I was leery at first but everything he's said intrigued me.


Course, that could just be his job.


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1/22/13 6:44:58 PM#50
basically every MMO that has come out for a very long time has been a failure. As a gamer who wants a good fantasy MMO you go from being excited about new games coming out to just not giving a crap. But this has to spark interest because the game will be based mainly off three very successful single player games that had large open worlds with awesome detail that kinda made you feel like you were in a good MMO. At the same time anyone will tell you of releases that were sure to be great but were a total failure. For me as a long time DAoC player and warhammer fan WAR was a total failure of epic proportions. My main concern is character progression, it was total crap in oblivian, improved in skyrim but still not good as a system for an MMO. They need a LOT of attention there.

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1/22/13 6:47:53 PM#51

My hype level goes up every time someone mentions DAoC in a TESO thread :( I can't control it damnit.

DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann


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1/22/13 6:56:35 PM#52


Originally posted by boxsnd My hype level goes up every time someone mentions DAoC in a TESO thread :( I can't control it damnit.

Same here. I am trying my best not to get hyped up over TESO but everytime Daoc is brought up, wonderful memories of Pre- ToA come to mind and the years of fun I had with a great RvR game that had the best community ever in an mmorpg.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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1/22/13 6:59:52 PM#53
Originally posted by boxsnd

My hype level goes up every time someone mentions DAoC in a TESO thread :( I can't control it damnit.


ha! Yes, one of the main deciding factors for me liking TESO will be the RvR system. I hope it's similar to DAOC.


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1/22/13 6:59:54 PM#54

Getting a straight answer from this guy is like nailing jello to the wall.

I would get annoyed with this shit if I were Mr. Murphy.


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1/22/13 7:07:50 PM#55
looks like a real PvP MMO, maybe the 1st one after Daoc and Warhammer (gw2 is a casual joke not a pvp MMO). Is coming this year, right?

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1/22/13 7:14:09 PM#56
On to wait for ArcheAge to release in NA... I can't understand why they would refrain from adding OWPvP when you have 3 factions to go at it in the vast open world. At least have another "megaserver" with some kind of PvP ruleset for us the PvPrs. This alone kept me away from LotRO, GW2... :(

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1/22/13 7:14:47 PM#57

Oh geez..  PvP centered MMO, here we go again!


I'll check back in when they add 'open world' guild or player housing.  I'm sick and tired of the WoW treadmill that is nearly every AAA MMO developed in the past decade.


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1/22/13 7:18:13 PM#58
the first mmorpg in a long time to have a traditional end game and giant pvp persistant battleground like DAOC yet people here still bitch and moan. He talks about tons of skyrim elements including how crafting effects play and how you can pretty much custom your character to anyway you like . Some of the people here no matter what any game does cannot please them and just need to seriously stop posting here. This was a good interview with plenty of info yet people are complaining that its not enough info.... Seriously some of you guys here are nothing but buzzkills for real. Give it a rest and wait til at least beta is off NDA and the game is somewhat complete before you complain for no reason other than random tantrums on this site. I complain and moan myself about games here to but man at least i wait until they are released to do so. Good interview with lots of info regardless of the naysayers here and I enjoyed the podcast.

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1/22/13 7:19:39 PM#59

One ray of hope for me is when talking about factions and guilds. Anyone else pick up on the lack of confirmation about being able to join another faction's guild?

If I were to hope beyond hope it would be that they are introducing a way to leave your faction and join anothersomehow, maybe some sort of betrayal quest or similar system to choose to join another faction...or perhaps some sort of spy system....lets hope as the rest of the game sounds like it could be cool, just the faction restrictions are really bugging me. Sort that out and I will be a little happier...


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1/22/13 7:27:56 PM#60
Originally posted by Maelwydd

One ray of hope for me is when talking about factions and guilds. Anyone else pick up on the lack of confirmation about being able to join another faction's guild?

If I were to hope beyond hope it would be that they are introducing a way to leave your faction and join anothersomehow, maybe some sort of betrayal quest or similar system to choose to join another faction...or perhaps some sort of spy system....lets hope as the rest of the game sounds like it could be cool, just the faction restrictions are really bugging me. Sort that out and I will be a little happier...

They have asymmetrical factions for a reason.

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