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  Wraithone

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1/22/13 1:38:04 PM#41
Originally posted by Robinffs
Why doesn't they just rename the site to og.com (online games)?

Why should they? Leaving entirely a side the matter of brand recognition and such.  Games have evolved over time. There is no reason not to cover many of these new games.

  ShakyMo

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1/22/13 1:51:11 PM#42
It's not 50 million players of mmos in the usa

It's 50 million players of ONLINE GAMES IN GENERAL.

Look at that site, they include stuff like starcraft 2, cod, lol, diablo 3, farmville etc..

Actual number playing actual mmos is much lower.
  ShakyMo

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1/22/13 1:52:17 PM#43
Oops wrong thread.
  maddog15a

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1/22/13 1:52:49 PM#44
Originally posted by Grotar89
Originally posted by meddyck

You don't need any more proof of how stale and uninspiring the MMO genre has become that Diablo clone Path of Exile now has the #1 hype spot on this site. In case anybody wants to argue PoE is an MMO, here's what the devs themselves say:

We do not classify Path of Exile as an MMORPG. It is a competitive online action RPG, and has little in common with games that are typically given the MMORPG moniker.

http://www.pathofexile.com/about/

Have you seen this http://steparu.com/previews/mmo-rpg-previews/1071-black-desert-online-preview-2 ?

Dunno why this game isnt on this site...... Looks like masterpiece smth that themepark and sandbox fans have been waiting for.

That trailer made me cry....and it there isn't even a single word or explanation too anything about the game

  nariusseldon

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1/22/13 1:58:01 PM#45
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's not a mmo at all.

It's a cooprpg

Planetside would be an example of a game that's a mmo but not a mmorpg.

People don't seem to care about that distinction. PoE is discussed here, with its own board. So may be we can just broaden MMO to include online ARPGs.

Personally i really don't care if a game is a ARPG, or a MMO .. i play it if it is fun to me.

  Nailzzz

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1/22/13 1:59:28 PM#46
This game is awesome. I've been in closed beta for many months and have been a proud investor in there kickstarter for this project. My only regret is that I put more money invested in games that didn't deserve as much investment as this game deserves (gw2 and tsw). I do look foward to continuing to support this game in any way I can. The developers are amazing and have been very responsive not just on the forums but in game chat as well, taking time to answer questions from many random players. Grinding gear games is amazing and PoE is an impressive labour of love.
  ClarkMallow

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1/22/13 2:37:42 PM#47
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ClarkMallow
Originally posted by OgreRaper
While I think PoE is a good game. I do not consider it an MMO. At all.

Well it is NOT an MMO and was never advertised like one, so everything is fine. It's just mmorpg.com not being clear of what they want to talk about or kids raging because they talk about good non-mmo online games.

Obviously MMO and games like D3 share an audience. Case in point, Blizz sold 1.2M annual pass to WOW players who want to play D3. And probably a lot more to other WOW players.

The game style is close enough to many MMOs. Hit a button, drop into a dungeon with 3-6 players. Ring a bell?

Success has nothing to do with PoE not being an MMO. It is not. Now whether MMORPG.com should talk about it or not, I don't care much, but they clearly decided to give credit to good online games in general. 2 things : 

Or forumers stop whining about their site's decisions,

Or MMORPG.com stops talking about Diablo, PoE, and many many more to talk ONLY about MMORPGs. 

I think solution 1 is pretty good.

  Yamota

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1/22/13 2:41:10 PM#48

Hm, yes interesting indeed that the nr 1 hyped game on MMORPG.com is not an mmorpg. Cant really see why you would call your site mmorpg.com but then list non mmorpgs. Does not make much sense to me. 

Maybe they should change the name of the site to MOG (multiplayer online game).

  ibn_Cartwell

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1/22/13 2:45:44 PM#49
Proof of stagnations = everyone excited about ESO beta, when it's already so far along a bad path there is no turning back.
  nariusseldon

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1/22/13 2:56:21 PM#50
Originally posted by Yamota

Hm, yes interesting indeed that the nr 1 hyped game on MMORPG.com is not an mmorpg. Cant really see why you would call your site mmorpg.com but then list non mmorpgs. Does not make much sense to me. 

Maybe they should change the name of the site to MOG (multiplayer online game).

May be because the playstyle is close enough. Tell me .. is there a substantial difference between D3 gameplay (hti a button, go into a 4 player game), and WOW dungeon/raid gameplay? (hit a button, go into a 5-man or 25 man dungeon)

If the playstyle is so close, it stands to reason that players interested in one would be interested in the other.

Stringent definitions of MMOs are not very useful .. if it ignore what people are interested in.

 

 

  Scottgun

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1/22/13 3:51:29 PM#51
Yeah, when Call of Duty and Texas Hold 'em appear on the games list, then you can wet your panties about games not being mmorpg.

How not to sell me on a game: "And most people that make it past the tutorial seem to appreciate [x game's] uniqueness, even if they don't find it fun."

  kyssari

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1/22/13 4:06:12 PM#52

For those who say PoE is another brainless clickfest faceroll game obviously they haven't even attempted to play on the Hardcore League, or any of the other different leagues besides the normal Default Legaue. I guarantee you go into HC with that mentality and don't make wise decisions on your passive skill tree you won't last more than 10 levels if even that heh. Even on the default league you won't get incredibly far if you don't navigate the tree wisely with a good balance of defense and offense.

As for it being a Diablo clone, it can be argued taht every game made to date is a clone of something else, which is pretty pointless. The fact of the matter is PoE is the same style of gameplay as Diablo games however adds many new mechanics and features that take the genre to awhole new level so I don't see how you can call it a clone. A clone is an exact copy of something else and PoE is by no means an exact copy of anything but rather it's own game that happens to fall under the same genre as the previous games it was inspired by.

  VengeSunsoar

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1/22/13 4:26:14 PM#53
Originally posted by meddyck

You don't need any more proof of how stale and uninspiring the MMO genre has become that Diablo clone Path of Exile now has the #1 hype spot on this site. In case anybody wants to argue PoE is an MMO, here's what the devs themselves say:

We do not classify Path of Exile as an MMORPG. It is a competitive online action RPG, and has little in common with games that are typically given the MMORPG moniker.

http://www.pathofexile.com/about/

 Lets just say your idea of proof and my idea of proof is very different.

All this proves is that this site lists many games, not just MMO's and many people are excited about PoE.  Anything related to MMO is strictly a supposition unsupported by your arguments. 

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  User Deleted
1/22/13 4:50:52 PM#54

People are just sad these days because once their MMO cherry got popped by the first special game all the rest feel just long and hard without any real charm.

 

Yes... I had to do it... entirely too many threads with whiners who wouldn't know a good game from their own ass if you gave them a flashlight, a map, and a stern talking to about which way their ass was relative to the game.

  ThomasN7

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1/22/13 5:19:04 PM#55
This is just proof that mmos are overrated and not the end all and be all of gaming.  You can throw in the Call of Duty franchise in as a great example.
  Phelcher

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1/22/13 5:23:47 PM#56
The problem is MMORPG.com..

This website has lost sight of it's users and their games. It is now a one-stop marketimg gimmick.

"No they are not charity. That is where the whales come in. (I play for free. Whales pays.) Devs get a business. That is how it works."


-Nariusseldon

  Seelinnikoi

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1/22/13 5:26:25 PM#57
Originally posted by Grotar89
Originally posted by meddyck

You don't need any more proof of how stale and uninspiring the MMO genre has become that Diablo clone Path of Exile now has the #1 hype spot on this site. In case anybody wants to argue PoE is an MMO, here's what the devs themselves say:

We do not classify Path of Exile as an MMORPG. It is a competitive online action RPG, and has little in common with games that are typically given the MMORPG moniker.

http://www.pathofexile.com/about/

Have you seen this http://steparu.com/previews/mmo-rpg-previews/1071-black-desert-online-preview-2 ?

Dunno why this game isnt on this site...... Looks like masterpiece smth that themepark and sandbox fans have been waiting for.

OH MY GAWD! That game *drops jaws* :O

  Purutzil

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1/22/13 5:30:44 PM#58
Originally posted by meddyck

You don't need any more proof of how stale and uninspiring the MMO genre has become that Diablo clone Path of Exile now has the #1 hype spot on this site. In case anybody wants to argue PoE is an MMO, here's what the devs themselves say:

We do not classify Path of Exile as an MMORPG. It is a competitive online action RPG, and has little in common with games that are typically given the MMORPG moniker.

http://www.pathofexile.com/about/

So,  I see you play Guildwars 2. How is your World of Warcraft clone doing? Fun I hope? Sorry, I just couldn't get over this to even get onto the topic. Pretty much that one term calling a game a 'clone' (which btw, is far from being like Diablo 2 compared to WoW and Gw2, even though it is NOT a clone) greatly harmed any bit of chance for civilized covnersation regarding the stagnation of MMos. 

  User Deleted
1/22/13 5:40:17 PM#59

"People are just sad these days because once their MMO cherry got popped by the first special game all the rest feel just long and hard without any real charm."

Originally posted by Purutzil
Originally posted by meddyck

You don't need any more proof of how stale and uninspiring the MMO genre has become that Diablo clone Path of Exile now has the #1 hype spot on this site. In case anybody wants to argue PoE is an MMO, here's what the devs themselves say:

We do not classify Path of Exile as an MMORPG. It is a competitive online action RPG, and has little in common with games that are typically given the MMORPG moniker.

http://www.pathofexile.com/about/

So,  I see you play Guildwars 2. How is your World of Warcraft clone doing? Fun I hope? Sorry, I just couldn't get over this to even get onto the topic. Pretty much that one term calling a game a 'clone' (which btw, is far from being like Diablo 2 compared to WoW and Gw2, even though it is NOT a clone) greatly harmed any bit of chance for civilized covnersation regarding the stagnation of MMos. 

Need I say more about these topics and their validity to anything excluding the rectal dysfunction these individuals must feel... not to mention the spinal trauma.

  User Deleted
1/22/13 6:40:20 PM#60
PoE isn't #1 anymore. The MMO genre is saved!!!!!!!
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