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  tixylix

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1/21/13 7:20:21 PM#21
The last time I played an MMO and had fun was 2005 with SWG and WoW but they were both ruined that year and I haven't played one I liked since. I did like EVE back in the day but after Capital Ships I lost interest. 
  bryz

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1/21/13 9:11:38 PM#22
MMOs are just too much grind these days.
  Torvaldr

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Opportunist

1/21/13 9:24:46 PM#23
Originally posted by XAPGames
Originally posted by Torvaldr

Imagine if Funcom had been insightful enough to realize that the triple dip would be crippling to their launch momentum.  The whole TSW / Funcom launch story could be different.

Especially when going head-to-head with GW2.

Honestly I think they figured the partnership with EA would make them tons of money.  Can't say that worked out well.

Yeah, that was poor decision making from the higher ups in marketing.  It's too bad because I've found the game to be pretty good.  I love the combat, the world is very immersive to me, and the community is one of the best.

 

@Madazz - lol, yeah I don't really care enough and I'm too lazy to look it up even if I did.  If we're off, no biggie.

  MMOExposed

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1/21/13 9:49:09 PM#24
levels are boring.

  Squeak69

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cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

1/21/13 10:13:13 PM#25

honestly i think MMOS are at the make a quick buck stage

 

Devs KNOW that subs are a thing of the past so know they make a game hype it and get alto of sales right off the bat then sell alot of stuff in their market, then basicly leave a small crew to run it from that point on and focus on the next one, that is the pattern with new MMOs

 

its sucks and leads to a whole line of half assed MMOs,

 

to use a old saying they just dont make them like they used to *with love and care*

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  shmashed

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1/21/13 10:29:43 PM#26
Originally posted by Squeak69

honestly i think MMOS are at the make a quick buck stage

 

Devs KNOW that subs are a thing of the past so know they make a game hype it and get alto of sales right off the bat then sell alot of stuff in their market, then basicly leave a small crew to run it from that point on and focus on the next one, that is the pattern with new MMOs

 

its sucks and leads to a whole line of half assed MMOs

I definitely agree with you.   MMOs seem to be released now with planned obsolesence.  For a while there in the middle of the last decade, a lot of MMOs got pushed out to release way too early due to lack of funding, or stupid executives.  But now, its almost like they plan to fleece as much money from you as possible before you discover there is in fact, no end game.

The only lasting endgame any of them have is pvp (if it even comes remotely close to working), which has become increasingly twitch based, as I become increasingly old and uncoordinated :)  Not to mention the vent/TS demands when I just want to chill out when I get home and not listen to mouthbreathers....

  VengeSunsoar

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1/21/13 11:09:23 PM#27

The make a quick buck stage?

While I can appreciate the sentiment, if there is one industry that doesn't really cater to this expression it is MMO's.

Millions of dollars spent, and years of coding before any money comes in at all is not an industry that can be labelled as, "make a quick buck stage"

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  Squeak69

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cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

1/22/13 2:11:13 AM#28
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

The make a quick buck stage?

While I can appreciate the sentiment, if there is one industry that doesn't really cater to this expression it is MMO's.

Millions of dollars spent, and years of coding before any money comes in at all is not an industry that can be labelled as, "make a quick buck stage"

i used to think that to, till the percentage of MMOs that came out started filling like hit and runs

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  Wraithone

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If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

1/22/13 9:20:03 AM#29
Originally posted by Squeak69

honestly i think MMOS are at the make a quick buck stage

 

Devs KNOW that subs are a thing of the past so know they make a game hype it and get alto of sales right off the bat then sell alot of stuff in their market, then basicly leave a small crew to run it from that point on and focus on the next one, that is the pattern with new MMOs

 

its sucks and leads to a whole line of half assed MMOs,

 

to use a old saying they just dont make them like they used to *with love and care*

Part of that is the people making the major decisions, aren't the Dev's. They are suits, fronting for the investors.  But to be realistic, who is going to trust a group of creative types with the HUGE amounts of money involved?  We have reached that part of the cycle, where mass production kicks in.

It was bound to happen, once it was demonstrated that there was money to be made in the industry.  But along with all that money, comes the change in attitudes, that business/investor types bring with them.

"Love and care" is part of the cycle when craftsman are involved.  But that is time/talent/experience intensive.  Once you hit the mass production part of the cycle, all that really matters is the ROI, and what have you done for me this quarter?

Until the technology evolves so that these games don't cost insane amounts of money to produce, this is mainly what we have to look forward to.

  nariusseldon

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1/22/13 12:43:36 PM#30
Originally posted by Squeak69

honestly i think MMOS are at the make a quick buck stage

 

Devs KNOW that subs are a thing of the past so know they make a game hype it and get alto of sales right off the bat then sell alot of stuff in their market, then basicly leave a small crew to run it from that point on and focus on the next one, that is the pattern with new MMOs

 

its sucks and leads to a whole line of half assed MMOs,

 

to use a old saying they just dont make them like they used to *with love and care*

Define quick. Most MMOs, even teh F2P, went through years of dev and 10s of millions of budget. Is that "quick"?

At the same time, they are not any "quicker" than SP games.

  Inf666

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1/22/13 5:25:24 PM#31

It is known that the western industry hardly ever deviates from set boundaries. Wow has set the boundaries in the MMO world and you will simply not find a heavy weight western company who is willing to go beyond. Its always innovation in veeery small steps if at all. True innovation usually only happens in the early stages of a new product / genre. After that it is 'milking' until there is nothing left.

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  Scot

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1/23/13 3:13:19 AM#32

If you make a game with less expected financial return, quality must go down. That is what we are going to face in the future; investors will be looking at how AAA titles are not strong enough to support a subscription for more than a few months. Why put up so much money? Why be prepared to fund a MMO more than a solo game if you are not going to get sustained after launch profit?

This is the financial reality that MMO’s which are started now will be facing. In four to five years time we will see the result, games which struggle to have any content apart from levelling to top level and make today's linear world MMO's look lush and open world.

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