Originally posted by C.L.O.U.D

Originally posted by lennpell

The fact of the matter is, I've been a gamer for near 13 years now and I think its fair to say of those 13 years i've almost invested 2 years of actual time gaming. No, I'm not a fat nerd, and yes I do have a life, I just spend any and all spare free time gaming. Today though I have come to ask for your help, where should I look next?

 

I have a deep interest in PvP oriented games, I've played so many of them, I almost went pro in halo 3, to call of duty, to WoW, to rakion, to flyff, to savage 2, to darkfall, to League of legends, to DotA 2, to Starcraft 2 (just to name a small few). Recently I have fallen into a problem though. I have no idea where to go next.

 

I get to a point in games like world of warcraft where the amount of button mashing and CC kind of overrides the fun for me. On the same account games like starcraft where it is all macro and micro is too stressful and not entirely fun. The only real games I find myself falling back to often are league of legends and call of duty, but I really just want something to dedicate myself to, not a reset after every game.

 

I'm really into strategy but I really like fast paced gameplay at the same time. Are there any games you guys could recommend that would satiate my hunger for PvP but at the same time have good gameplay, and not be for lack of a better word, phased like LoL? I'm looking for more fantasy oriented, so shooters and sci-fi aren't what im looking for. If anyone could help me with this I would be ever so grateful.

 

Quick summary of traits: Immersive, doesnt need amazing graphics, does need amazing gameplay, needs a relatively strong player base (relative), needs PvP, needs to be fantasy, or at least not sci-fi/shooter.

 

Thank you ever so much if you could help me or at least try to!

 

Tl;dr: Help me find a good immersive PvP game, no shooters or sci-fi, view traits list ^ Thanks.

 

Also it doesn't necessarily have to be an mmo, it could be an online game where you simply pick up a character and jump into the fray, I've had a few smash hits for myself like that such as Arcanists by Jagex

Man, i'm so in the same boat as you. I haven't found a good mmo with pvp in it since I left WoW. TBC was so much fun to pvp with arena still being fresh and fighting off people in Halaa. Hell I still remember the first time i queued for an arena match on the PTR before it was even release to live servers, but I guess there is no point on dwelling on the past. Only game that I have found to keep my interest over the past couple years is Heroes of Newerth, but I doubt you want to play that. I'm really looking for an actual MMO with good pvp. So let me know if you find anything good hah, i'll hope on it and try it with you, it's always more fun when you have someone to socialize and learn with. GL

Sure thing mate, if I bump into something I'll send you a message and see if you'd be into trying it as well, as for HoN I own it and have played it quite a bit, but I've settled on league being my MoBA.

Originally posted by Deddpool

Defiance or Firefall

 

I'm having a blast in Firefall, a lot of mmo elements like crafting and such, but awesome pvp and a shooter at heart.  Really nice look as well, away from the orcs and elves and such.

 

Cant say anything about Defiance (NDA) but worth looking into.

 

Wildstar may also be worth keeping an eye on, they are taking beta apps.

I've heard of firefall a lot actually, but have never quite taken a look at it, will do so shortly, as for defiance I'll wait until its further down the line.

Originally posted by jpnole

Look no further than Path of Exile:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDFO4E5OKSE

 

Open Beta launch this Wed Jan 23 (Effective launch since it's final character wipe)

Will have full PvP as well

 

sadly no ETA on cut-throat league (full loot pvp league), so no pvp till its actually implemented,,, ive intentionally ignored the pvp instance thats in game already, just becouse i never actually got any invite to it, event tho i stayed queued up for days, literally,,, 

with that said its an amazing game, really worth trying out, just wish they'd hurry up with cut-throat

I recently downloaded DAoC because everyone says it's pvp was the greatest of any mmo, and still many sites say it is if you are looking for some good pvp action.

Still need to give it a try.

www.neocron.com

only pvp if you want, no instances, no allies of you dont want some. 

With your FPS/MOBA background, I would say that Tera would be good for you.   Twitch movement and accuracy is crucial for success in Tera pvp.

Other than that, Darkfall: UW.  I know a handful of very serious PvP guilds that are going to have a presence there at launch.

Originally posted by Psychow
I wsh Warhamer would go F2P or B2P. Not going to sub...

Sub is still the best still imo, you pay once flat rate and you get everything the game has to offer. No buy to win stores or stupid crap teir accounts where one person gets more than others. 

Have you tried SMITE? I think you'd really enjoy that, if you haven't played it already. While it's not an MMO...it is, imo, one of the best pvp-rpg games around.

Or you could always try Super Monday Night Combat (F2P).

Originally posted by C.L.O.U.D

I recently downloaded DAoC because everyone says it's pvp was the greatest of any mmo, and still many sites say it is if you are looking for some good pvp action.

Still need to give it a try.

Let me know how it is bro. I might join you if it lives fully up to the hype, make sure to keep tabs on the playerbase as well, I wouldn't want to just 2 man it until we get to top tier.

Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Have you tried Mortal Online? It's free now until lvl 60. I am in DFUW Beta, and some things I like, but I feel like it is DF NGE.

I've tried mortal, I found it to be a lesser version of Darkfall, but still a great game in its own right, I'll more likely wait out DF:UW though, thanks for the suggestion!

Originally posted by C.L.O.U.D

Originally posted by Psychow
I wsh Warhamer would go F2P or B2P. Not going to sub...

Sub is still the best still imo, you pay once flat rate and you get everything the game has to offer. No buy to win stores or stupid crap teir accounts where one person gets more than others. 

I agree, but I think if it went B2P with a cosmetics only shop it'd still have a business model and be one of the best pvp games out there, I effin loved WAR but its just so dead other than the elitist players.

Originally posted by Maephisto

With your FPS/MOBA background, I would say that Tera would be good for you.   Twitch movement and accuracy is crucial for success in Tera pvp.

Other than that, Darkfall: UW.  I know a handful of very serious PvP guilds that are going to have a presence there at launch.

I'm going to look more into Tera, and if DF:UW lives up to my expectations by launch I without a doubt will be playing that.

Originally posted by Phayz

Have you tried SMITE? I think you'd really enjoy that, if you haven't played it already. While it's not an MMO...it is, imo, one of the best pvp-rpg games around.

 

Or you could always try Super Monday Night Combat (F2P).

I have tried SMITE actually, I was one of the first few thousand in the beta, but I just don't really like the design all that much its like an fps MoBA, I kind of get lost when I play it for some reason, great game for others I'm sure, but not for me. Thanks so much for the suggestion though!

Originally posted by jpnole

Look no further than Path of Exile:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDFO4E5OKSE

 

Open Beta launch this Wed Jan 23 (Effective launch since it's final character wipe)

Will have full PvP as well

 

I played this game a bunch in beta. Although it is a great game, in my opinion it needs a lot of work to be competitive with other games' pvp. In order to PVP I had to grind PVE to level 28. That's a lot of levels. Additionally, there is no respecs. So if you messed up your build, or some other FOTM becomes the only viable pvp build, then you'd have to regrind. There is also only one path to level, so these grinds would get very repetitive.

The game has considered a server (or league as they call it) called cutthoat where you can PK and full loot at all times. This is currently not in the game though and the devs have not commented whether it would be put back in for launch.

For someone who prefers to play games where I can level via PVP, I'd recommend many other games over this game. Although it has potential, unless they open up other PVP brackets, or re-intro the cutthroat league, this game has waaaay too much PVE for a person who wants to play as much PVP as possible.

Originally posted by lennpell

Originally posted by Maephisto

With your FPS/MOBA background, I would say that Tera would be good for you.   Twitch movement and accuracy is crucial for success in Tera pvp.

Other than that, Darkfall: UW.  I know a handful of very serious PvP guilds that are going to have a presence there at launch.

I'm going to look more into Tera, and if DF:UW lives up to my expectations by launch I without a doubt will be playing that.

I also played Darkfall:UW in their beta. I care so much about the non-disclosure and playing the game that I can tell you straight up the game stinks. And I do not go around promoting one game or dissing games often. It was the biggest waste of $30 ever. I know its beta, but it is riddled with bugs and again it stinks. Graphics poor, interface awful, customer service poor, and reliability of the gaming company is the worst in the industry. I would find something else.

Originally posted by dwarfus

Originally posted by lennpell

Originally posted by Maephisto

With your FPS/MOBA background, I would say that Tera would be good for you.   Twitch movement and accuracy is crucial for success in Tera pvp.

Other than that, Darkfall: UW.  I know a handful of very serious PvP guilds that are going to have a presence there at launch.

I'm going to look more into Tera, and if DF:UW lives up to my expectations by launch I without a doubt will be playing that.

I also played Darkfall:UW in their beta. I care so much about the non-disclosure and playing the game that I can tell you straight up the game stinks. And I do not go around promoting one game or dissing games often. It was the biggest waste of $30 ever. I know its beta, but it is riddled with bugs and again it stinks. Graphics poor, interface awful, customer service poor, and reliability of the gaming company is the worst in the industry. I would find something else.

Yeah, this is why I'm waiting instead of jumping into it.

Hmmm... even though you specifically mentioned that you played it in your OP I'm still gonna suggest it: Starcraft 2.

It's by far the most addictive game I've ever played simply because of how intensely competitive it is, and how skill-based it is. It's retardedly hard mechanically and super satisfying. I've probably played 5,000+ games and I still play 30 - 50 games every weekend and a handful everyday during the week.