Originally posted by Gorwe

Right! I'll start as directly as I can:

f2p version of Vanguard bothers me. Can you enjoy yourself with it? Any way to buy classes or races(LoTRO style)? Because I adore Elves of all kinds and now I am limited. Not to mention that I wanted to play Druid(meh...) or Cleric(that can be done :D!).

Also, when we are at it, how good are the graphics? Oblivion level? Morrowind level? This could be pretty important Cuz I don't Like stiff animations. It makes combat...dull.

How beatiful is Telon? More importantly, how beautifully is the Water rendered(Water is very important to me...)?

Also, the limited housing due to f2p confuses me. Isn't it one of the pillars of Vanguard?

Also, how much can I get into Telon(you know, Roleplaying)? What RP Tools are present and how good are stories/quests/etc?

I ask all of this because it seems that Vanguard is my type of MMO, but before I get involved, I want to get absolutely positive that I want to actually play it...

And don't bother suggesting me to sub. The only game that is worthy of sub, in my eyes, is Rift. Because they have fast updates/bug free updates and friendly(LOL they define friendly!) Community relations.

That right there is where you will uninstall after about 10 minutes of gameplay. It is what still keeps me from playing today.

Originally posted by Biskop
@ Drakaden

I was not being sarcastic at all. The freeloader mentality is weird imo - you get enormous amounts of content for free, you can play any class/race combo to max lvl, own boats, houses, etc, and you still feel entitled to more and whine about ptw which ofc is utterly absurd in a PvE game like VG).

When you reach the point where gear unlocks are actually needed, you will have spent a lot of time on the game - FREE, unrestricted playtime with full access to 100% of the game's content. You shouldn't be opposed to spending a few bucks by then, unless ofc you're a spoiled child who believes the world owes you everything you desire.

How do you suggest the devs earn money if you can get everything for free? Somebody's gotta pay them eventually, you know. And before you mention it, Aion's model will not work in VG because VG does not have millions of Asians paying monthly subs.

 

It isn't wrong by any means to think the devs are deserving a paycheck for their product if you play it, you are totally correct about this, the thing is, there is many factors in play that makes so the MMO market has to be even more competitive than it's peer MMOs:

The market is oversaturated in MMO games;

The players are divided by the choices, and what the market wants to get are dedicated players who invest themselves, so they stick around and possibly spend on their product;

The MMO market is modifying what they offer gradually, this is like a dog fight for which game will attract the most, so they offer more in order to try to attract more.

There's more Offer than Demand, it's a simple market thing, it's not about being spoiled or whatever, if the customer has the power, it's what happens.

Vanguard is a good game, the question is if SoE can support it with new content and make some revamps to the core content etc. Also, if the community is healthy now it's an epic experience in Telon.

If you get into a guild with alot of members it can be really fun. Explore the world together, do mount and armour/weapon questlines together, craft ships, furnitures, house, guild halls, weapons, armour etc.

Raid and explore dungeons.

Originally posted by InFlamestwo

Vanguard is a good game, the question is if SoE can support it with new content and make some revamps to the core content etc. Also, if the community is healthy now it's an epic experience in Telon.

If you get into a guild with alot of members it can be really fun. Explore the world together, do mount and armour/weapon questlines together, craft ships, furnitures, house, guild halls, weapons, armour etc.

 

Raid and explore dungeons.

Don't want to discount all of your points, but why would 'adding content' be a high priority for a game where very few have actually completed the existing content?

Re-vamps, bug stamping, code improvements, new char models and easier grouping functions would all be my pick for how SOE needs to show its support for the game, imo.

Originally posted by Zorgo

Originally posted by InFlamestwo

Vanguard is a good game, the question is if SoE can support it with new content and make some revamps to the core content etc. Also, if the community is healthy now it's an epic experience in Telon.

If you get into a guild with alot of members it can be really fun. Explore the world together, do mount and armour/weapon questlines together, craft ships, furnitures, house, guild halls, weapons, armour etc.

 

Raid and explore dungeons.

Don't want to discount all of your points, but why would 'adding content' be a high priority for a game where very few have actually completed the existing content?

Re-vamps, bug stamping, code improvements, new char models and easier grouping functions would all be my pick for how SOE needs to show its support for the game, imo.

Revamping the content, adding new content. If you revamp, you need to add new stuff to replace some of the old content.