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  Sciva

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1/20/13 10:43:24 AM#21
This is exactly like the League of Legends model yet they are letting you pay up front for a load of heroes. What's so wrong about that? Oh right, self entitlement mentality.
  Cecropia

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1/20/13 10:56:17 AM#22
Originally posted by Sciva
This is exactly like the League of Legends model yet they are letting you pay up front for a load of heroes. What's so wrong about that? Oh right, self entitlement mentality.

Paying 200 bucks for something that would have gone for 60 a couple of years ago is not a wise decision. As I said in another one of these threads: you don't reward a dog for pissing all over your house.

Encouraging this kind of cash grab only makes things worse (more expensive) for the future of gaming. A mere pinch of logic and foresight is all that is needed to comprehend this simple fact.

"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  birdycephon

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1/20/13 11:08:20 AM#23
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Sciva
This is exactly like the League of Legends model yet they are letting you pay up front for a load of heroes. What's so wrong about that? Oh right, self entitlement mentality.

Paying 200 bucks for something that would have gone for 60 a couple of years ago is not a wise decision. As I said in another one of these threads: you don't reward a dog for pissing all over your house.

Encouraging this kind of cash grab only makes things worse (more expensive) for the future of gaming. A mere pinch of logic and foresight is all that is needed to comprehend this simple fact.

Okay, no.

Lets assume characters are $10, skins are $5, just judging from the starter packs. I think that sounds fair.

From the ultimate pack, you get 22 characters, plus 2 unreleased characters, that adds up to $240 right there. And it doesn't include all of the skins that come with it, some of which are enhanced skins which would probably go for around $10. Plus, you get permanent boosts to experience and magic find. I think this is a steal.

  TheJoda

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1/20/13 11:10:33 AM#24
....why not, some paid over 150.00 for SWTOR and got  a single player story mmo, and a figure made of plastic!

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  blix2006

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1/20/13 11:11:35 AM#25
200 is a bit high..i think 60 is the sweet spot but what alot of you arent realizing is everything for the most part can be found and earned in game.skins drop...heroes drop as loot.and you can you in game money to buy heroes..it just takes alot longer....they arent roping all this off so you have no way to earn it unless you break open your wallet.its just a matter of time convenance.get over it.
  Burntvet

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1/20/13 11:15:08 AM#26
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by Sciva
This is exactly like the League of Legends model yet they are letting you pay up front for a load of heroes. What's so wrong about that? Oh right, self entitlement mentality.

Paying 200 bucks for something that would have gone for 60 a couple of years ago is not a wise decision. As I said in another one of these threads: you don't reward a dog for pissing all over your house.

Encouraging this kind of cash grab only makes things worse (more expensive) for the future of gaming. A mere pinch of logic and foresight is all that is needed to comprehend this simple fact.

 

Yup. This is only a slightly different flavor of buying a pre-release "Lifetime Subscription" because they are giving you most of the things you'd work towards in game by playing. All in all, just as dumb as buying an LTS... especially pre-release. When will people learn....
  Tokken

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1/20/13 11:15:38 AM#27

I'd rather work for all the costumes and heroes I get. Makes the game sweeter for me.

No way, I think the 200 is too expensive. I went for the 60 avengers pack.

Remember, it's supposed to be fun and a free to play game.

 

 

Games I played that actually were meaningful to me: UO, EQ, EQ2, Daoc, CoH, Vanguard, Lotro, SWTOR, WOW... looking forward to Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen!

  Tokken

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1/20/13 11:19:14 AM#28
Originally posted by theniffrig

TBH I think it would defeat one of the main aspects of the game, to basically Unlock costumes/characters by buying them all at the beginning in one go. The permanent +5% XP & +5% item find chance might be a bigger draw for someone willing to pay the $200 for this pack. 

Personally I just spent $19.99 on a basic Hero Starter, which nets me a nice forum name, a bit of store cash, 2 days early access to the game before launch & ofcourse Captain America!

 

I agree with you on this.... we will be able to unlock characters and costumes as we play. I think the biggest draw for me would be the Black spidey costume and the +5% XP & +5% item find.  I wouldn't want to play half those characters anyways.

Games I played that actually were meaningful to me: UO, EQ, EQ2, Daoc, CoH, Vanguard, Lotro, SWTOR, WOW... looking forward to Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen!

  Paradigm68

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1/20/13 11:34:50 AM#29
Originally posted by Axxar
I hope not many have, but there's always suckers out there. I especially love how the $200 kit says "estimated value: over $750" when most games offer more content for $60. It should be changed to "estimated value: less than $60."

Yeah, that "estimated value" got me to. That is what made me feel it was like a ripoff. Who's estimate? Their estimate of naming the value of what they are pricing. If they're going to be that dishonest from the get go, it doesn't make me feel like it's something I want to be a part of. Even though I wanted to be a part of it before I read that. It's like used car salesman tacticts.

  birdycephon

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1/20/13 12:58:08 PM#30

 

Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by Axxar
I hope not many have, but there's always suckers out there. I especially love how the $200 kit says "estimated value: over $750" when most games offer more content for $60. It should be changed to "estimated value: less than $60."

Yeah, that "estimated value" got me to. That is what made me feel it was like a ripoff. Who's estimate? Their estimate of naming the value of what they are pricing. If they're going to be that dishonest from the get go, it doesn't make me feel like it's something I want to be a part of. Even though I wanted to be a part of it before I read that. It's like used car salesman tacticts.

My estimate is at least $650 according to my formula.

  • Characters - $240
  • Skins - $330
  • Permanent Boosts - $30
  • $50 In-Game Currency - $50
  • Title, Early Access, Beta Access, and $50 Limited Time Bonus Currency - $0
I'm sure some of these values are off, but overall it's really close.

 

  Ramonski7

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1/20/13 1:03:17 PM#31
Originally posted by Tokken

I'd rather work for all the costumes and heroes I get. Makes the game sweeter for me.

No way, I think the 200 is too expensive. I went for the 60 avengers pack.

Remember, it's supposed to be fun and a free to play game.

 

 

Hey nice avatar! I guess that's what I get for making such a cool one. Cheers!


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  User Deleted
1/20/13 1:03:47 PM#32
They make the ultimate Package ridiculously expensive so that some n00b will think that the starter package is a reasonable deal.
  Paradigm68

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1/20/13 2:21:58 PM#33
Originally posted by birdycephon

 

Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by Axxar
I hope not many have, but there's always suckers out there. I especially love how the $200 kit says "estimated value: over $750" when most games offer more content for $60. It should be changed to "estimated value: less than $60."

Yeah, that "estimated value" got me to. That is what made me feel it was like a ripoff. Who's estimate? Their estimate of naming the value of what they are pricing. If they're going to be that dishonest from the get go, it doesn't make me feel like it's something I want to be a part of. Even though I wanted to be a part of it before I read that. It's like used car salesman tacticts.

My estimate is at least $650 according to my formula.

  • Characters - $240
  • Skins - $330
  • Permanent Boosts - $30
  • $50 In-Game Currency - $50
  • Title, Early Access, Beta Access, and $50 Limited Time Bonus Currency - $0
I'm sure some of these values are off, but overall it's really close.

Ok but those values, who set them? They make up their own values then make a comparison to those values. That is the point. I can pick up a stick. Say "I'm selling this stick for 10 dollars." Then I pick up 10 sticks and say "I'm selling these sticks for 50 dollars, it's a 100 dollar value!" Wnen I say '100 dollar value' its BS because I decide all the values. It has no actual objective value. That is what makes it a shady claim.

  birdycephon

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1/20/13 2:29:02 PM#34
Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by birdycephon

 

Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by Axxar
I hope not many have, but there's always suckers out there. I especially love how the $200 kit says "estimated value: over $750" when most games offer more content for $60. It should be changed to "estimated value: less than $60."

Yeah, that "estimated value" got me to. That is what made me feel it was like a ripoff. Who's estimate? Their estimate of naming the value of what they are pricing. If they're going to be that dishonest from the get go, it doesn't make me feel like it's something I want to be a part of. Even though I wanted to be a part of it before I read that. It's like used car salesman tacticts.

My estimate is at least $650 according to my formula.

  • Characters - $240
  • Skins - $330
  • Permanent Boosts - $30
  • $50 In-Game Currency - $50
  • Title, Early Access, Beta Access, and $50 Limited Time Bonus Currency - $0
I'm sure some of these values are off, but overall it's really close.

Ok but those values, who set them? They make up their own values then make a comparison to those values. That is the point. I can pick up a stick. Say "I'm selling this stick for 10 dollars." Then I pick up 10 sticks and say "I'm selling these sticks for 50 dollars, it's a 100 dollar value!" Wnen I say '100 dollar value' its BS because I decide all the values. It has no actual objective value. That is what makes it a shady claim.

The value I set is based on my experience with cash shops and what I can see would be a fair price for an unlock.

  sapphen

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1/20/13 2:32:30 PM#35
Originally posted by Psychow
They make the ultimate Package ridiculously expensive so that some n00b will think that the starter package is a reasonable deal.

It's that and for the whales that throw around $200 like it's nothing.  They don't care if it's worth it or not - they are out to spend money.  I'm happy they started doing this too, makes it cheaper on us average players.

  Paradigm68

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1/20/13 2:56:21 PM#36
Originally posted by birdycephon
Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by birdycephon

 

Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by Axxar
I hope not many have, but there's always suckers out there. I especially love how the $200 kit says "estimated value: over $750" when most games offer more content for $60. It should be changed to "estimated value: less than $60."

Yeah, that "estimated value" got me to. That is what made me feel it was like a ripoff. Who's estimate? Their estimate of naming the value of what they are pricing. If they're going to be that dishonest from the get go, it doesn't make me feel like it's something I want to be a part of. Even though I wanted to be a part of it before I read that. It's like used car salesman tacticts.

My estimate is at least $650 according to my formula.

  • Characters - $240
  • Skins - $330
  • Permanent Boosts - $30
  • $50 In-Game Currency - $50
  • Title, Early Access, Beta Access, and $50 Limited Time Bonus Currency - $0
I'm sure some of these values are off, but overall it's really close.

Ok but those values, who set them? They make up their own values then make a comparison to those values. That is the point. I can pick up a stick. Say "I'm selling this stick for 10 dollars." Then I pick up 10 sticks and say "I'm selling these sticks for 50 dollars, it's a 100 dollar value!" Wnen I say '100 dollar value' its BS because I decide all the values. It has no actual objective value. That is what makes it a shady claim.

The value I set is based on my experience with cash shops and what I can see would be a fair price for an unlock.

That is fine for you and an entirely subjective judgement that doesn't apply to anyone. When the seller makes a statement that is meant to be taken as an objective statement of value, but it's not, that underhanded. Just like the example I provided. If I make an item, decide the value of that item, any statements I make that are based on that value is BS becaus I made up the first value out of thin air.

  Istavaan

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1/20/13 3:03:37 PM#37
It would feel like a waste of money to me personally but i don't care what some stranger spends on a game to be honest, i just know a cash grab when i see one.
  nariusseldon

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1/21/13 12:44:22 AM#38
Originally posted by Ramonski7
Originally posted by Axxar
I hope not many have, but there's always suckers out there. I especially love how the $200 kit says "estimated value: over $750" when most games offer more content for $60. It should be changed to "estimated value: less than $60."

Funny thing is even something as cosmetic as clothes can have a estimated value inflated to ridiculous prices in the real world. Why on earth would you do it in a game is beyond my pay grade it seems. Heroes included or not, it shows you just how "high" they are willing to inflate the prices in their cash shop. Sad really...

Why sad? Comic book fans love this stuff.

Plus, it is not like people won't pay for digital stuff. $25 for a mount is the same kind of thing. And there is no such thing as ridiculous prices. More power to them if they can get people willing to pay.

In fact, it is the basic tenet of a free market. Charge what your customers are willing to pay. If you can make your customer willing to pay high prices, more power to you.

  TheClifford

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1/21/13 12:54:12 AM#39

So it's business as usual for SWTOR, LOTRO, Everquest, Tera (soon!), Aion, etc., to have in-game cash shops for unlocks and customizations, but its unnaceptable for Marvel Heroes to offer their entire starting cash shop of customizations with a discount for pre-order?

Just wanted to make sure I understood the argument...

  nariusseldon

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1/21/13 12:57:41 AM#40
Originally posted by TheClifford

So it's business as usual for SWTOR, LOTRO, Everquest, Tera (soon!), Aion, etc., to have in-game cash shops for unlocks and customizations, but its unnaceptable for Marvel Heroes to offer their entire starting cash shop of customizations with a discount for pre-order?

Just wanted to make sure I understood the argument...

In fact, i would add LOL .. the MH model is very similar to LOL, which you pay for character access.

And LOL is the most popular online game ... with more active players than WOW.

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