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  Hancakes

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1/18/13 3:09:51 PM#21
Originally posted by Reizla
Glad they didn't make it thought the Greenlight on Steam. I think it also has to do with MO's 'achievement' of killing negative feedback :D

All that time and effort, yet it still failed

  Slapshot1188

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OP  1/18/13 5:48:53 PM#22
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Reizla
Glad they didn't make it thought the Greenlight on Steam. I think it also has to do with MO's 'achievement' of killing negative feedback :D

All that time and effort, yet it still failed

I do think it says something...

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  Celusios

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1/19/13 2:00:32 AM#23

Honestly i'm glad this game didn't make the Greenlight. It's an amazing game lead by a bunch of damn idiots. They take players from guilds and big alliances and let them become GM's that can monitor your payment and personal information as well as ban you at will. 

It's also plagued with hacks, dupes, and just corruption in their staff all around. I use to support this game but since they want to ban me for having "third party" tools installed (not running but installed) I'm simply done. Any of you considering this game should not waste your time. You put yourself at risk playing when stuff like this happens:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9iJyzuOqU

  Hancakes

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1/19/13 3:48:12 PM#24
Originally posted by Celusios I use to support this game but since they want to ban me for having "third party" tools installed (not running but installed) I'm simply done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9iJyzuOqU

I find that VERY hard to believe!  Its bad enough if SV is scanning your system for running processes, but having free reign over your hardrive is just absurd. Plus SVs detection has always been a joke.

  Celusios

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1/19/13 11:09:17 PM#25

I want to quote this from a similar case on the official forums:

 

 

When a GM helps you out he will use our tools to do so.
In those tools the GM have noticed you have/have had a illegal-program running while playing the game.
So he banned you. The tools are correct but this does NOT mean that you had the program running the same day or the day before. But you did indeed have it running at one point while running our game.

I can see how this would be frustrating for you, some of these programs can, I guess, be used for other things. But you have to see this from our side, we can not tolerate any instance of running these programs with our game. We need to have a strict hard rule here that's all we can do.

On a separate note I'm not sure you are allowed to talk about bans on the forums, if not sorry mods for responding to this but he seems like a nice guy.

 

 

Starvault is scanning your machine for traces of any known third party tools and banning you accordingly. You could of had a program they deem "bad" not even running on the game but in another process and get banned just the same. The first part however made me laugh. I'm supposed to believe they have some sort of "log" that "logs" a user running Cheat Engine but does not ban them that moment rather it's logged for any instance a GM is called in. Yeah... okay.

 

Source of the quote: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/threads/unjustified-ban.82951/#post-1426723

 

 

  Darkcrystal

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1/19/13 11:17:56 PM#26
Originally posted by Crunchy222

You knuckleheads do realize that the game can stay on the pre-greenlight  vote list nearly indefinately?

And im just saying...what if getting it greenlit would give these developers enough money to hire real programmers to fix the game?  And then you guys wouldnt have to lurk the forums of sandbox games trolling the developers anymore.

 

(no i dont play MO and yes its terrible)

 

Just saying...why does everyone want to see sandbox games die so much?  Not enough themeparks out there?

See that is the issue kids today get  off on ruining  others work because they don't work and most are living with momma,so they think its so easy to design and make a game when they have no clue what it takes to do it, so they rather bash a game, I have seen users quit a game for a few years and still go to a forum to troll/bash them , its like are you that butt hurt or that hatefull that you have to go to a old game that you disliked forums to do this?? I mean cmon ..

 

We have enough Themeparks, so what if its bug ridden, play it or leave it alone, but if someone wants to continue to develop it so what , what is it hurting you? Atleast they had the balls to try and make something different unlike all of the AAA companys that make clones and or steal other ideas.

 

I 'm sick of Themeparks..

  Darkcrystal

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1/19/13 11:20:02 PM#27
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Celusios I use to support this game but since they want to ban me for having "third party" tools installed (not running but installed) I'm simply done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9iJyzuOqU

I find that VERY hard to believe!  Its bad enough if SV is scanning your system for running processes, but having free reign over your hardrive is just absurd. Plus SVs detection has always been a joke.

ROFL ya ok, like we believe this, wrong, they don't do this, and I know I have played MO for years , no longer do, but they do not do this, you were cheating I bet , running Aim bot, speed hacks etc and or Autoit, I bet, I seen enough players doing this and now I didn't when I left the game..

  Celusios

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1/19/13 11:30:19 PM#28
Originally posted by Darkcrystal
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by Celusios I use to support this game but since they want to ban me for having "third party" tools installed (not running but installed) I'm simply done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9iJyzuOqU

I find that VERY hard to believe!  Its bad enough if SV is scanning your system for running processes, but having free reign over your hardrive is just absurd. Plus SVs detection has always been a joke.

ROFL ya ok, like we believe this, wrong, they don't do this, and I know I have played MO for years , no longer do, but they do not do this, you were cheating I bet , running Aim bot, speed hacks etc and or Autoit, I bet, I seen enough players doing this and now I didn't when I left the game..

 

I use to be just like you. All nieve about Starvault's ways. You honestly for a second think their GM staff is not corrupt? So many of us who fight against RLC and other FL alliances have been banned recently for the dumbest of shit. "Third party tools". Feel free to youtube their history and see first hand how they operate.

  Yizle

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1/20/13 1:18:47 AM#29
Originally posted by Aeonblades

lol, in all honesty, you don't want to buy anything through steam anyway. CS is absolutely horrendous for Steam, and their "app" is a glorified pop up window.

Every time I used Steam before I wised up I had problems with their customer support. Abysmal.

I had one problem and it was fixed in less then 3 hours.

  Biskop

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Posts: 731

1/20/13 2:58:05 AM#30
Funny how people still defend this worthless company with the "themeparks suck" argument. Wtf does that have to do with anything?

I like open ended games and sandbox features but I also dislike broken games, lying CEOs and corrupt GMs. Get a grip.
  xmenty

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1/20/13 3:50:56 AM#31
Originally posted by Crunchy222

Just saying...why does everyone want to see sandbox games die so much?  Not enough themeparks out there?

 

Please do not blame themepark players if your sandbox games die so much.

Blame yourself and all of those desperate, hard up sandbox gamers who support bad gameplay and bad dev behaviours.

You can fool, tricked and hype so many players into playing these games,

but at the end no one will want to have to do with this genre anymore because of those guys.

 

 

Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language :)

  Celusios

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1/20/13 5:01:04 AM#32
Originally posted by Biskop
Funny how people still defend this worthless company with the "themeparks suck" argument. Wtf does that have to do with anything?

I like open ended games and sandbox features but I also dislike broken games, lying CEOs and corrupt GMs. Get a grip.

Yeah... the game itself is a great game... but it's just completely ruined by the pathetic company that controls it. The only reason anyone defends it is because it's the only game of it's kind.

  Toferio

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1/20/13 5:04:20 AM#33
Originally posted by Darkcrystal
arks, so what if its bug ridden, play it or leave it alone, but if someone wants to continue to develop it so what , what is it hurting you? 

It is a bad example to other developers. Something along the lines of "Hey, you can cheat and lie to your player base and have amateur GMs, yet players will still support you, no need to try hard".

  InFlamestwo

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1/20/13 5:16:19 AM#34
Disappointed. MO is a good game with great potential.

  lizardbones

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1/20/13 5:35:37 AM#35


Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Disappointed. MO is a good game with great potential.


The idea had potential. The game is awful. Getting put on Steam's Greenlight would not have made the game any better, it would just take even longer to stagger around flailing it's stubby arms.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  Hancakes

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1/20/13 9:57:02 AM#36
Originally posted by xmenty
Originally posted by Crunchy222

Just saying...why does everyone want to see sandbox games die so much?  Not enough themeparks out there?

 

Please do not blame themepark players if your sandbox games die so much.

Blame yourself and all of those desperate, hard up sandbox gamers who support bad gameplay and bad dev behaviours.

You can fool, tricked and hype so many players into playing these games,

but at the end no one will want to have to do with this genre anymore because of those guys.

 

 

agree 100%!

  Celusios

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1/21/13 12:32:43 AM#37
Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by Darkcrystal
arks, so what if its bug ridden, play it or leave it alone, but if someone wants to continue to develop it so what , what is it hurting you? 

It is a bad example to other developers. Something along the lines of "Hey, you can cheat and lie to your player base and have amateur GMs, yet players will still support you, no need to try hard".

To be fair, they are paying a huge price for their unprofessional behavior. Population is still pathetic and the new players that do join find themselves quitting within days. Even the simpliest of bugs still exist on this game.. for instance getting stuck on literally everything. Prediction is horrible which leads to bad combat and people quitting. For those of you who don't know what their prediction system is....

It was this great idea of theirs to implement a system in that would help the servers deal with higher pinged players across the world. What it does is try to predict your movement on others clients... which means certain people it will predict you closer than you actually are leading to you being hit by someone from 20FT away on your screen. It also made it so you couldn't even see them winding up a hit until it was too late and you were being hit. With this great system combat is more relient on connection than skill.

  deathshroud

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1/22/13 12:32:16 AM#38
movement prediction is common in most online games its just mos isnt very good at all, theres plenty of online games that would also be terrible if they had the melee mechanics of MO simply due to bad prediction, but mos prediction is on a whole other level of bad, its not just common prediction issues like the direction someone is facing which plagues most online games, eg NS2 im playing often you get killed by a shotgun from a guy not even looking in your direction (prediction issue combined with lag). In MO its far to common seeing people run up to something then striaght past it then the prediction shuffle them back to it becuase they actually stopped right at the object but the prediction doesnt realise until up to 2 seconds after.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  Betel

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1/22/13 1:56:40 AM#39
Originally posted by Celusios

Yeah... the game itself is a great game... but it's just completely ruined by the pathetic company that controls it. The only reason anyone defends it is because it's the only game of it's kind.

 

It's a terrible game, perhaps you mean it had a good PowerPoint presentation? The second SV sat down to actually code the game it has been awful.

It is also not the only game of its kind, there are plenty of sandbox PvP games with territorial control out there. No amount of fine tuning your definition can change that (it's the only sandbox with Mortal in the title!! etc). There are plenty of similar games, and anyone who plays MO is simply lining Henrik's pockets while he laughs at you.

 

 

  DarthMooska

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1/22/13 11:36:40 PM#40
Originally posted by Jacxolope
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by deathshroud
its still on the greenlight page so it is still under consideration but didnt make this monthsl ist of greenlit games. some of the ones just greenlit have been on greenlight far longer than mo.

 

Any of those games been released for 2.5 years?

IDK but I am THRILLED to see "age of decadance" among the "chosen". Vault Dweller (Vince) is an awesome guy who has worked his everloving butt off for YEARS to make a game that he knows will probably not ewven break even. He has delayed and delayed and delayed (paying salaries from his own pocket) to make sure the game was up to snuff... AND it isnt even released yet after probably 7 or so years of development.

I second this. Age of Decadence is superb. It's like pen and paper DnD in a nice 3D turn based package.

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