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  koboldfodder

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Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 359

1/19/13 5:40:03 PM#41

Boring game.  I made it to about level 38 but I was still doing the same things as I was at level 1.  Hearts are quests, and quests were always kill this number of mobs of interact with this number of things.  I suppose I could that level of monotony but the game lacked in other areas.

 

Crafting was tied to your level, just like every other themepark (exceot Vanguard and EQ2) and nothing you made was very usefl.  The game world was static.  Sure, the main human city looked awesome....but nothing was really happening in it.  Actually, that random laughing guy got on my nerves.....if you visited that city, you know what I am talking about.

 

I didn't make it to any group content, but from what I saw in the first 38 levels left me confident that there was nothing much to see after that.

 

It was never about being easy to play, or hard to play.  The game was just flat out boring.

 

  fiontar

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Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3687

1/19/13 10:00:21 PM#42
Originally posted by zastroph
So, what do you do when there are no other players in the area that your playing and your trying to play an unbalanced class like thief or engineer. Fighting one thing at a time is not always possible and death is frequent!

My Engineer is still fairly low level, but thief is one of the four professions that I've leveled to 80. If you have trouble soloing non-group content with a thief, you need to hone your game play skills, make sure your gear is fairly up to date and maybe choose a better build.

I've found this to be the case with every profession so far.  That's not to say I haven't had some rough spots, but when I have, rather than blame the game I've found the proper adjustments to my game play and my build to overcome those issues.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  fiontar

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1/19/13 10:09:18 PM#43
Originally posted by koboldfodder

Boring game.  I made it to about level 38 but I was still doing the same things as I was at level 1.  Hearts are quests, and quests were always kill this number of mobs of interact with this number of things.  I suppose I could that level of monotony but the game lacked in other areas.

 

Crafting was tied to your level, just like every other themepark (exceot Vanguard and EQ2) and nothing you made was very usefl.  The game world was static.  Sure, the main human city looked awesome....but nothing was really happening in it.  Actually, that random laughing guy got on my nerves.....if you visited that city, you know what I am talking about.

 

I didn't make it to any group content, but from what I saw in the first 38 levels left me confident that there was nothing much to see after that.

 

It was never about being easy to play, or hard to play.  The game was just flat out boring.

 

 

If you don't kill something or interact with something, what exactly would you propose doing? I'm almost to 800 hours played and still am not feeling any monotony, so not really sure what you are talking about. It's possible you reached level 38, but what did you do and where did you go? There are so many places to go and things to do in this game it can be overwhelming. By level 38 you'd have access to maybe 40% of the game world. I doubt you saw more than a sliver of what was available.

Crafting is in no way tied to level. If you have the resources, you can pick up a craft at level 2 and max it it one sitting. Youir character levels via crafting, so you'd be level 12, but your level doesn't limit your ability to progress crafting.

Game play is subjective. Maybe you did find some way to become bored with the game, but it's not a boring game.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  Noxxumari

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Joined: 1/06/13
Posts: 17

 
OP  1/20/13 12:23:18 AM#44
hey thanks for the heavy response, I surely wasnt expecting all this. I am level 20 currently, and found out the hard way (multiple deaths and overly squishy) that proper gear and spec are paramount for survival. I can take on several mobs at once as a thief depending on how I engage and if im jumped or not. This is not like any mmo out currently that I have played, which has been just about all the main MMOs from EQ 1 and 2, swg so and and so on. if anything it reminds me of SWG before they made doctor buffs overly amazing. I will be playing this until they shutter.
  Ice-Queen

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Joined: 1/02/08
Posts: 2430

"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

1/20/13 12:25:18 AM#45
Originally posted by jpnole
GW2 is really no different from any other MMO. It's actually very similar to Rift. Well the only thing unique I'll say is that casting spells don't root you. You can run & gun on the fly basically. Other than that it's Themepark 101 and nothing new to see.

Pretty much.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
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  Thorkune

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Joined: 9/28/06
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1/20/13 12:44:31 AM#46
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Latronus
Originally posted by Jean_Luc_Picard
Originally posted by jpnole
GW2 is really no different from any other MMO. It's actually very similar to Rift.

GW2 similar to Rift? Have you even played the game?

More misinformation spread on mmorpg.com, what a surprise...

You're correct!  I'd rather play Rift, at least I didn't get bored playing it.

 Because spamming one button is better than using ten right?

Only if you choose to. I am an anti-macro kinda' guy.

  rodingo

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Joined: 1/18/07
Posts: 1625

1/20/13 12:47:56 AM#47
Originally posted by Noxxumari
hey thanks for the heavy response, I surely wasnt expecting all this. I am level 20 currently, and found out the hard way (multiple deaths and overly squishy) that proper gear and spec are paramount for survival. I can take on several mobs at once as a thief depending on how I engage and if im jumped or not. This is not like any mmo out currently that I have played, which has been just about all the main MMOs from EQ 1 and 2, swg so and and so on. if anything it reminds me of SWG before they made doctor buffs overly amazing. I will be playing this until they shutter.

That's good and all and I'm happy for you, just be warned that there are posters here on this forum that will continue to tell you that you actually shouldn't like the game becuase they don't.  You have obviously played other MMOs so you know what GW2 has to offer over the others (que in snide remark from a usual suspect).  Enjoy the ride and I recomend trying some WvW if you havn't already which is a great alternative way to earn Exp and Karma. 

"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  User Deleted
1/20/13 12:59:00 AM#48
Originally posted by Noxxumari
So I finally got the game, and it plays great on my mac. Its a HARD mmo to play, zerg in pvp? yes. Pve no, you have to plan and be ready to fight tooth and nail. I like how I can go to the noob areas and still get xp and earn the skill points, and its still a challenge. I had to go through the asura noob area to get to a story quest and decided to clear the zone, stil working on it, its hard because of the level scaleing deal. Its great, this game promotes helping each other even though some dont. If you where on the fence about this game don't listen to the cry babies here, its great its just not WoW, so some people cant get past that, I was that way at first because i have been programmed to just hack and slash my way through it, you are a bad ass in this game but you have to be aware and be skilled.

Since the Nexon take over this game especially the end game is not as advertised, posters here on this site know my history when it comes to this game and I can honestly say STAY AWAY and BEWARE once you reach end game because you will end up having to pay RL money eventually for something to do anything meaningful end game. 

As far as the rewards, there are none except for one single activity, fractals. Nothing else really gives you drops unless you have an extremely luck filled life.

I was the biggest fanboi of this title and for the first month everything was fine. Since Nov however i and others believe that Anet has been taken over by an extremely greedy monetization company and has since become all about the gold. We believe also that they've halted their bot search and destroy programming to allow some gold farmers to remain in the game so they can continue to bleed RL money for gold from the players for even the simplest end game gear or mats to make said gear.

I believe one of the writers of this site has the facts .... this isnt some cry baby response to a game design change, this affects every player and will soon affect Spvp and Tpvp players as soon as they find a way of making extra money off those players as well. It's coming.

Nexon is not your friend.

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Meleagar/112012/24237_NCSoft-Sold-Arenanet-and-GW2-Out-For-Nexon-Investment

  User Deleted
1/20/13 2:07:08 AM#49
Originally posted by itgrowls
Originally posted by Noxxumari
So I finally got the game, and it plays great on my mac. Its a HARD mmo to play, zerg in pvp? yes. Pve no, you have to plan and be ready to fight tooth and nail. I like how I can go to the noob areas and still get xp and earn the skill points, and its still a challenge. I had to go through the asura noob area to get to a story quest and decided to clear the zone, stil working on it, its hard because of the level scaleing deal. Its great, this game promotes helping each other even though some dont. If you where on the fence about this game don't listen to the cry babies here, its great its just not WoW, so some people cant get past that, I was that way at first because i have been programmed to just hack and slash my way through it, you are a bad ass in this game but you have to be aware and be skilled.

Since the Nexon take over this game especially the end game is not as advertised, posters here on this site know my history when it comes to this game and I can honestly say STAY AWAY and BEWARE once you reach end game because you will end up having to pay RL money eventually for something to do anything meaningful end game. 

As far as the rewards, there are none except for one single activity, fractals. Nothing else really gives you drops unless you have an extremely luck filled life.

I was the biggest fanboi of this title and for the first month everything was fine. Since Nov however i and others believe that Anet has been taken over by an extremely greedy monetization company and has since become all about the gold. We believe also that they've halted their bot search and destroy programming to allow some gold farmers to remain in the game so they can continue to bleed RL money for gold from the players for even the simplest end game gear or mats to make said gear.

I believe one of the writers of this site has the facts .... this isnt some cry baby response to a game design change, this affects every player and will soon affect Spvp and Tpvp players as soon as they find a way of making extra money off those players as well. It's coming.

Nexon is not your friend.

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Meleagar/112012/24237_NCSoft-Sold-Arenanet-and-GW2-Out-For-Nexon-Investment

 

Trying to pin the blame squarely on the shoulders of Nexon is pretty dishonest of you IMO. Nexon has a 15% claim in NCsoft holdings. That doesn't mean Nexon swooped in and made Anet change their philosophy on game design. Anet should be held, at least, partially accountable for their decisions.

  PaRoXiTiC

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Joined: 3/11/08
Posts: 447

1/20/13 2:12:12 AM#50
Originally posted by itgrowls
Originally posted by Noxxumari
So I finally got the game, and it plays great on my mac. Its a HARD mmo to play, zerg in pvp? yes. Pve no, you have to plan and be ready to fight tooth and nail. I like how I can go to the noob areas and still get xp and earn the skill points, and its still a challenge. I had to go through the asura noob area to get to a story quest and decided to clear the zone, stil working on it, its hard because of the level scaleing deal. Its great, this game promotes helping each other even though some dont. If you where on the fence about this game don't listen to the cry babies here, its great its just not WoW, so some people cant get past that, I was that way at first because i have been programmed to just hack and slash my way through it, you are a bad ass in this game but you have to be aware and be skilled.

Since the Nexon take over this game especially the end game is not as advertised, posters here on this site know my history when it comes to this game and I can honestly say STAY AWAY and BEWARE once you reach end game because you will end up having to pay RL money eventually for something to do anything meaningful end game. 

As far as the rewards, there are none except for one single activity, fractals. Nothing else really gives you drops unless you have an extremely luck filled life.

I was the biggest fanboi of this title and for the first month everything was fine. Since Nov however i and others believe that Anet has been taken over by an extremely greedy monetization company and has since become all about the gold. We believe also that they've halted their bot search and destroy programming to allow some gold farmers to remain in the game so they can continue to bleed RL money for gold from the players for even the simplest end game gear or mats to make said gear.

I believe one of the writers of this site has the facts .... this isnt some cry baby response to a game design change, this affects every player and will soon affect Spvp and Tpvp players as soon as they find a way of making extra money off those players as well. It's coming.

Nexon is not your friend.

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Meleagar/112012/24237_NCSoft-Sold-Arenanet-and-GW2-Out-For-Nexon-Investment

Read that far then scratched my head and laughed at you. What a derp. Please explain what is "meaninful" that you gotta pay "RL money" for? LMFAO

  emota

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Joined: 9/16/07
Posts: 319

1/20/13 2:15:44 AM#51
Unfortunately the more you play the more you realise GW2 is a simple beast easy to tame, once tamed it offers little resistance!
  PaRoXiTiC

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Joined: 3/11/08
Posts: 447

1/20/13 2:19:39 AM#52
Originally posted by emota
Unfortunately the more you play the more you realise GW2 is a simple beast easy to tame, once tamed it offers little resistance!

Except for the fact that it has arguably the best PvP of any MMO to date and has a dungeon that scales to infinite difficulty.

  Betakodo

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Joined: 2/16/12
Posts: 338

1/20/13 2:20:17 AM#53

The story is crap and you're forced to grind inbetween story missions because the level of the story quest jumps. Hearts, which they expect you to grind on are simply boring and repetitive. PvP is broken and unbalanced. The dungons.... Well, they just seem like they didn't playtest them.

  PaRoXiTiC

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1/20/13 2:27:06 AM#54
Originally posted by Betakodo

The story is crap and you're forced to grind inbetween story missions because the level of the story quest jumps. Hearts, which they expect you to grind on are simply boring and repetitive. PvP is broken and unbalanced. The dungons.... Well, they just seem like they didn't playtest them.

Story is crap for sure. Leveled an alt to 80 in 5 days so you are definitely not forced to grind. PvP is very well balanced. Dungeons are great just a little bit to easy with an organized group.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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1/20/13 3:14:29 AM#55
Originally posted by koboldfodder

Boring game.  I made it to about level 38 but I was still doing the same things as I was at level 1.  Hearts are quests, and quests were always kill this number of mobs of interact with this number of things.  I suppose I could that level of monotony but the game lacked in other areas.

 Just like the quests in every other MMORPG, including Vanguard and EQ2...

Crafting was tied to your level, just like every other themepark (exceot Vanguard and EQ2) and nothing you made was very usefl. 

 Misinformation. You can craft the best gear possible for your level with materials available at your level, and you can do so even at max level. Maybe you should have tried crafting before dismissing it...

The game world was static. 

More misinformation. If the gameworld in GW2 is static, then the gameworld in other games (including Vanguard and EQ2) is frozen in ice.

I didn't make it to any group content, but from what I saw in the first 38 levels left me confident that there was nothing much to see after that.

 You simple can't give an opinion on something you didn't try.

It was never about being easy to play, or hard to play.  The game was just flat out boring.

 It's pretty obvious, from you saying that the "quests" aka "hearts" are all the same, and that the "game world was static", that you played GW2 like you played other theme parks, going from heart to heart instead of exploring the world and finding events which are all over the place. You bored yourself out of the game.

 

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  User Deleted
1/20/13 3:26:22 AM#56
Originally posted by Jean_Luc_Picard
Originally posted by koboldfodder

Boring game.  I made it to about level 38 but I was still doing the same things as I was at level 1.  Hearts are quests, and quests were always kill this number of mobs of interact with this number of things.  I suppose I could that level of monotony but the game lacked in other areas.

 Just like the quests in every other MMORPG, including Vanguard and EQ2...

Crafting was tied to your level, just like every other themepark (exceot Vanguard and EQ2) and nothing you made was very usefl. 

 Misinformation. You can craft the best gear possible for your level with materials available at your level, and you can do so even at max level. Maybe you should have tried crafting before dismissing it...

The game world was static. 

More misinformation. If the gameworld in GW2 is static, then the gameworld in other games (including Vanguard and EQ2) is frozen in ice.

I didn't make it to any group content, but from what I saw in the first 38 levels left me confident that there was nothing much to see after that.

 You simple can't give an opinion on something you didn't try.

It was never about being easy to play, or hard to play.  The game was just flat out boring.

 It's pretty obvious, from you saying that the "quests" aka "hearts" are all the same, and that the "game world was static", that you played GW2 like you played other theme parks, going from heart to heart instead of exploring the world and finding events which are all over the place. You bored yourself out of the game.

 

 

In his defense, going from event to event is really no different than going from quest to quest or heart to heart.

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1/20/13 3:56:55 AM#57
Originally posted by ezpz77
Originally posted by itgrowls
Originally posted by Noxxumari
So I finally got the game, and it plays great on my mac. Its a HARD mmo to play, zerg in pvp? yes. Pve no, you have to plan and be ready to fight tooth and nail. I like how I can go to the noob areas and still get xp and earn the skill points, and its still a challenge. I had to go through the asura noob area to get to a story quest and decided to clear the zone, stil working on it, its hard because of the level scaleing deal. Its great, this game promotes helping each other even though some dont. If you where on the fence about this game don't listen to the cry babies here, its great its just not WoW, so some people cant get past that, I was that way at first because i have been programmed to just hack and slash my way through it, you are a bad ass in this game but you have to be aware and be skilled.

Since the Nexon take over this game especially the end game is not as advertised, posters here on this site know my history when it comes to this game and I can honestly say STAY AWAY and BEWARE once you reach end game because you will end up having to pay RL money eventually for something to do anything meaningful end game. 

As far as the rewards, there are none except for one single activity, fractals. Nothing else really gives you drops unless you have an extremely luck filled life.

I was the biggest fanboi of this title and for the first month everything was fine. Since Nov however i and others believe that Anet has been taken over by an extremely greedy monetization company and has since become all about the gold. We believe also that they've halted their bot search and destroy programming to allow some gold farmers to remain in the game so they can continue to bleed RL money for gold from the players for even the simplest end game gear or mats to make said gear.

I believe one of the writers of this site has the facts .... this isnt some cry baby response to a game design change, this affects every player and will soon affect Spvp and Tpvp players as soon as they find a way of making extra money off those players as well. It's coming.

Nexon is not your friend.

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Meleagar/112012/24237_NCSoft-Sold-Arenanet-and-GW2-Out-For-Nexon-Investment

 

Trying to pin the blame squarely on the shoulders of Nexon is pretty dishonest of you IMO. Nexon has a 15% claim in NCsoft holdings. That doesn't mean Nexon swooped in and made Anet change their philosophy on game design. Anet should be held, at least, partially accountable for their decisions.

Love the spin that somehow just because a company doesn't hold 51% doesn't mean they can't control the subsidiaries they possess stocks in. 51% is only required to sell a company not to control it.

  Leucent

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1/20/13 7:55:47 AM#58
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC
Originally posted by emota
Unfortunately the more you play the more you realise GW2 is a simple beast easy to tame, once tamed it offers little resistance!

Except for the fact that it has arguably the best PvP of any MMO to date and has a dungeon that scales to infinite difficulty.

Arguably a fact, interesting. I will agree I can argue, it s pvp is crap.

  rafalex007

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1/20/13 8:03:13 AM#59
well my friend you got your mmo and i got mine
  vmoped

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1/20/13 8:28:09 AM#60
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC
Originally posted by emota
Unfortunately the more you play the more you realise GW2 is a simple beast easy to tame, once tamed it offers little resistance!

Except for the fact that it has arguably the best PvP of any MMO to date and has a dungeon that scales to infinite difficulty.

Arguably a fact, interesting. I will agree I can argue, it s pvp is crap.

 I have to somewhat agree with emota here.  The game has alot to offer initially, but once it has all been done it just becomes another grind.  I know most games are unable to avoid this, but GW2 seems to accentuate the grind with ridiculous drop rates, like for instance WvW badges.  They have a low drop rate, yet to get the equivilant gear through Karma vendors or dungeons is ridiculously way more easier. 

I really wanted a good realm vs realm type game here, and it appeared to offer that, but the culling (which I know they have been working on) and crappy RNG drop rates just does not encourage me log on and grind mobs/players ad nauseum.  I also am not a fan of the fractals, or any instanced content for that matter.  Ever since the fractal dungeons were introduced the open world aspect of the game died nearly completely outside of orr.

I am on a full server and yet most of the world outside fractal runs, lion's arch, orr, and WvW is a ghost town.  Im not complaining, just telling it like it is.

For its price it is a great game, it just is missing good social tools and reasons to not farm instances all day.  At least that is my two cents on the matter.

Cheers!

MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

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