Originally posted by jimdandy26

LOL its a mmorpg and who ever told you about the gear is dead wrong sorry. I can't say much because of the NDA but I love the game and its got some real cool stuff  and some great ideas from a game that people love so much. 

This game is far from fail.

Its a pretty mediocre 3rd person shooter with some people around, sometimes. It feels much like Gw2 honestly, you may be playing around others, but you are not playing WITH others. On top of that Trion starts off the story in one of the worst ways possible, telling you that you are a badass instead of making you feel like you are a badass. On top of the squishy gunplay (it feels like its designed for a gamepad, not a mouse and keyboard) and itemization that does not make sense they have a lot of the "little things" to fix that are super important if they truly want the game to be successful.

The game felt nothing like GW2 to me except maybe when it came to rifts/dynamic events. I think it resembles Borderlands the closest. A mix of Borderlands and Rift. The third person shooter combat is nothing to write home about, but I'd take it over tab combat any day.

I do agree with you that there are a lot of things that will need fixing so I guess we'll have to wait and see if they actually do.

Nothing more than a gimmick.

Those playing should be concerned about the shows ratings. When they go, so shall the game.

Count on it.

Originally posted by jimdandy26

LOL its a mmorpg and who ever told you about the gear is dead wrong sorry. I can't say much because of the NDA but I love the game and its got some real cool stuff  and some great ideas from a game that people love so much. 

This game is far from fail.

Its a pretty mediocre 3rd person shooter with some people around, sometimes. It feels much like Gw2 honestly, you may be playing around others, but you are not playing WITH others. On top of that Trion starts off the story in one of the worst ways possible, telling you that you are a badass instead of making you feel like you are a badass. On top of the squishy gunplay (it feels like its designed for a gamepad, not a mouse and keyboard) and itemization that does not make sense they have a lot of the "little things" to fix that are super important if they truly want the game to be successful.

Not sure how its mediocre, it feels like a 3rd person shooter to me and it feels nothing like GW2 in anyway. I don't get the gamepad feel when playing the game. The menus are designed for the gamepad so its easier for the console group but not the game play it feels spot on with the mouse and keyboard. Still haven't played a mmo where I need a group right on that back, nothing new with that.

As of right now I don't see to many problems at all. Its fun different and thats what this genre needs 

Originally posted by Maitrader

Originally posted by xpowderx

Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

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It's almost as if they were intentionally using the beta to find bugs in an unfinished product.

Quite the travesty.

Im actually hoping the show fails honestly. It will open up alot more options for the game. As of right now, the game takes place in San Fransisco and the show will be in St. Louis. 

They are keeping them separate indefinately, so that they can show "cross-over" through dialogue, but thats the only influence you will see between them. It was never meant to be more than something written into the script at the last minute. The shows plots and direction are predetermined, so if you expect more influence like determining the direction of the show itself you are very naive. Its not even something they would be arrogant enough to claim.

So if the show succeeds, they have to make sure the show locations and the game locations never cross paths. Now if the show fails, they can expand the game, anywhere they want, without having to worry about the nerds raging if a building or landmark is/isnt the way it was in the show. 

I give them big props for trying something different, and Im sure its going to be a fun gimmick, but thats all it is, and it will soon wear thin on people. All new shiny toys get old, and lately thats been sooner rather than later.

The game runs great for me, on my 2 year old gaming laptop. Much better than GW2, to be honest.

Without breaking NDA, all I can say is that this game will appeal to console/borderlands fans who would like to experience some MMO in a shooter game. I can't see it being interesting to tradional MMO fans, especially the fantasy genre fans, of course. 

However, due to market saturation with tab target fantasy MMO's, Defiance might fare better than expected. 

The defiance engine is OLD.. its apparent from the first moment you play the game this is a seriously old engine, however it is smooth and clean but theres nothing fancy or shiny about it.

Overall I would say the game is OK but thats it

I think the success of this game will depend on what serious FPS players (none come to this site) think of the game

The biggest factor is going to be the TV show, If the show is really really good the game will do well cause as I said its ok but nothing special.  It has some depth in skills growth and cool pve but if the show flops the game flops if the show is a hit then people will get into the game imo

Originally posted by aslan132

Im actually hoping the show fails honestly. It will open up alot more options for the game. As of right now, the game takes place in San Fransisco and the show will be in St. Louis. 

 

They are keeping them separate indefinately, so that they can show "cross-over" through dialogue, but thats the only influence you will see between them. It was never meant to be more than something written into the script at the last minute. The shows plots and direction are predetermined, so if you expect more influence like determining the direction of the show itself you are very naive. Its not even something they would be arrogant enough to claim.

 

So if the show succeeds, they have to make sure the show locations and the game locations never cross paths. Now if the show fails, they can expand the game, anywhere they want, without having to worry about the nerds raging if a building or landmark is/isnt the way it was in the show. 

 

I give them big props for trying something different, and Im sure its going to be a fun gimmick, but thats all it is, and it will soon wear thin on people. All new shiny toys get old, and lately thats been sooner rather than later.

So what your saying is that trion and syfy are not smart enough to hold a event in game then do a episode based on what we did or did not do? Yep that would be impossible. How about this, lets not assume that you no this to be fact and lets wait and see sounds goos to me :)

Originally posted by the420kid

The defiance engine is OLD.. its apparent from the first moment you play the game this is a seriously old engine, however it is smooth and clean but theres nothing fancy or shiny about it.

Overall I would say the game is OK but thats it

I think the success of this game will depend on what serious FPS players (none come to this site) think of the game

The biggest factor is going to be the TV show, If the show is really really good the game will do well cause as I said its ok but nothing special.  It has some depth in skills growth and cool pve but if the show flops the game flops if the show is a hit then people will get into the game imo

Heres your so called old engine thats not that old. http://www.havok.com/client-projects/games/defiance

Originally posted by xpowderx

Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

you got a source for that? that was one of the questions i kept asking in their twitch stream last night. Then they look at each other and say "not talking about that right now"

Originally posted by aleos

Originally posted by xpowderx

Yes, you heard it! I am picking Defiance as the most likely candidate for both MMORPG of the year and most innovative. Why most innovative? As Defiance is the only mmo to be cross-platform. available on PC,Xbox360 and PS3's. It is also the only game I know of where our actions in the game effect the new series Defiance on Syfy.

I loved Rift, if Defiance is anywhere near the gameplay and content Rift provides it will be incredible!

My best wishes to those playing Defiance now and Trion Worlds. Such a innovative title!

you got a source for that? that was one of the questions i kept asking in their twitch stream last night. Then they look at each other and say "not talking about that right now"

only thing i heard about that was they mentioned top guild names could be mentioned or some top players names used in the show.. aside from that i wouldn't expect much as far as the game effecting the series.. now the direction of the series effecting the game is another story but still not sure about that as not much info has been revealed

Originally posted by Mannish
Played the game for about 30 minutes and that was enough for me.  Already uninstalled and crossed out on my list.

unfortunatly same for me but i gave it 9 solid hours but sadly cancelled my pre-order.. will check back maybe after release

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Mannish
Played the game for about 30 minutes and that was enough for me.  Already uninstalled and crossed out on my list.

unfortunatly same for me but i gave it 9 solid hours but sadly cancelled my pre-order.. will check back maybe after release

Preorder? I thought this was going to be a FTP?