Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by loulaki

So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

 

 

The server count is small, from what I saw.

 

Each server is dead, from what I saw.

 

My observation.  Good day.

 

 

 

 

your observation is wrong : ) at least my server is pretty active, oh yes at 03:00 am its a ghost world ... yes ...

 

Another naysayer - just wanting to prove he is right above all information to the contrary. Why are people so blind and dumb?

i am not blind and dump, i know where has problems GW2 and its not my best game, but its one of the best games these days, trying to prove the opposite cause its not your title its so wrong ...

this post sounds more logical and have some points to argument, not statements like the above ....

these are just copies sold which i can believe but i can tell you that there is no where near that about of people playing this game.  I played the game religeously since release I do believe at one point the game did have atleast 400k concurrent users thats about the only statement I heard to be true from them. At this point  I believe the game may only have at best 50k concurrent users. I actually believe it to be less 15-20k but im being nice.

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people? they have a milllion people doing fractals? I don't think so. I would also point out that SPVP is a ghost town and might i remind you that spvp browser is your region so yup when you see only 200 people in the broswer thats it for all of north america which is pretty bad.  Sorry I am not seeing the numbers they are coming up with.

I think the game is in a lot of trouble.

Originally posted by xArsonistx

 

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people? they have a milllion people doing fractals? I don't think so. I would also point out that SPVP is a ghost town and might i remind you that spvp browser is your region so yup when you see only 200 people in the broswer thats it for all of north america which is pretty bad.  Sorry I am not seeing the numbers they are coming up with.

I think the game is in a lot of trouble.

 

Can't say on the sPvP, haven't gotten into that yet.

The rest is full of guano.

Originally posted by xArsonistx

these are just copies sold which i can believe but i can tell you that there is no where near that about of people playing this game.  I played the game religeously since release I do believe at one point the game did have atleast 400k concurrent users thats about the only statement I heard to be true from them. At this point  I believe the game may only have at best 50k concurrent users. I actually believe it to be less 15-20k but im being nice.

 

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people? they have a milllion people doing fractals? I don't think so. I would also point out that SPVP is a ghost town and might i remind you that spvp browser is your region so yup when you see only 200 people in the broswer thats it for all of north america which is pretty bad.  Sorry I am not seeing the numbers they are coming up with.

I think the game is in a lot of trouble.

 

Maybe they are all playing around me...

Cause I keep seeing dozens of people during my play sessions

Are people really debating the depth of combat GW2 vs the competition?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B_zMPcT2jgc#t=14s

Anyone care to retort against GW2's combat superiority now? 

Originally posted by xArsonistx

these are just copies sold which i can believe but i can tell you that there is no where near that about of people playing this game.  I played the game religeously since release I do believe at one point the game did have atleast 400k concurrent users thats about the only statement I heard to be true from them. At this point  I believe the game may only have at best 50k concurrent users. I actually believe it to be less 15-20k but im being nice.

 

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people? they have a milllion people doing fractals? I don't think so. I would also point out that SPVP is a ghost town and might i remind you that spvp browser is your region so yup when you see only 200 people in the broswer thats it for all of north america which is pretty bad.  Sorry I am not seeing the numbers they are coming up with.

I think the game is in a lot of trouble.

 

Oh noes it's XXDOOMSAYERXX, he can tell the future regarding the best MMORPG to date and it's downfall!

I have no idea where you get your data from or your predictions regarding the state of the game that millions are playing. 

Originally posted by xArsonistx

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people?

Took about 5min for people to show up for Dragon DE on Far Shiverpeaks EU server few hours ago.

While I took this screenshot there were people behind me aswell.

But I guess all those are botters huh?

Originally posted by bcbully

The thing is their 3rd qt report showed 48 million total. Analyst predicted that 1st qt 2013 will be much less due to sales being up front. This is what promted the the 50% loss of stock value. 

I missed that - you have link? i only recall analyst talking about Q4 2012

Originally posted by Torgrim

Originally posted by xArsonistx

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people?

Took about 5min for people to show up for Dragon DE on Far Shiverpeaks EU server few hours ago.

While I took this screenshot there were people behind me aswell.

But I guess all those are botters huh?

Do like the Wushu apologists do.  Claim it's only one botter.  Only one!  So it doesn't really matter after all.

The lengths people go to downplay the success of this game is astounding.  When Wushu gets 10% of that sort of revenue here in NA/EU, then I might pause to consider it.

Originally posted by EnigmaticE

Are people really debating the depth of combat GW2 vs the competition?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B_zMPcT2jgc#t=14s

 

Anyone care to retort against GW2's combat superiority now? 

Great video.

That+combos is a great combat mechanic in GW2.

Originally posted by nerbon
try planetside 2 if you wonna real twitchy combat i dont really like wow but still wow has like 100time more players then gw2

Played PS2 - would rather poke my eyes out with all the bots and cheaters there.

WoW? how many skills bars to you want? and Would you like to macro those skills while at it? SOrry - I played the beta of WoW and the combat was worse then GW1 - that is why I played GW1 over WoW.

I think if they did one thing, they found B2P is an effective cash cow in getting people to pay in bulk and then operate like a F2P game. Even if people aren't playing (which i'll bet a good majority of the sales aren't actively on the game or only play very rarely, maybe for events) they still made their money's worth and the cash shop works just like a standerd F2P cash shop though with a bit more potential to milk money with gems to money (Granted with nothing much to really 'work for' its probably not highly used at least, and the cosmetic section seems a bit unexplored to my surprise in trying to bring in more cash). Still hard to say as there are more games going F2P with really attractive models providing basically the same freedom without a box cost (granted many have restrictions on it nudging to pay, blame gold sellers otherwise I'm sure most of that wouldn't be in place).

As for me, I found it to be quite underwhelming, to the point its probably the worst AAA MMO title I've purchased (which btw does NOT mean its aweful or anything, just in the AAA market its on the negative end). The lack of real progression or character development topped with a combat system that feels a bit clunky and provides little to no challenge at all in play (don't try throwing in dodge, I'll point you to several dozen games that have a far better dodge system and I can even give you an MMo that handles combat better) it just doesn't have appeal.  Outside that it just didn't offer anything new, just repackaged in a slightly different way.

Again, not saying its a bad game, and hell if it was like the secret world in trying to do something different I'd probably think much more highly of the game despite it being to boring/not my style to play. The fact it is a fantasy just helps to dule out the appeal of this game for me completely.

Originally posted by Torgrim

Originally posted by EnigmaticE

Are people really debating the depth of combat GW2 vs the competition?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B_zMPcT2jgc#t=14s

 

Anyone care to retort against GW2's combat superiority now? 

 

Great video.

That+combos is a great combat mechanic in GW2.

Basically that video is comparing 

Vs 

http://www.carinsurancecomparison.com/Images/Ford-Mustang.jpg ((Sorry lack of a small picture)

Of course its going to appear a lot better. An older game will NOT compete for combat systems over a newer game. Heck, look at even games that continue that combat system like Rift or SWTOR. They have both found ways to make the system more advanced and changed up just how they function and with better graphics how things appear.

Originally posted by xArsonistx

these are just copies sold which i can believe but i can tell you that there is no where near that about of people playing this game.  I played the game religeously since release I do believe at one point the game did have atleast 400k concurrent users thats about the only statement I heard to be true from them. At this point  I believe the game may only have at best 50k concurrent users. I actually believe it to be less 15-20k but im being nice.

 

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people? they have a milllion people doing fractals? I don't think so. I would also point out that SPVP is a ghost town and might i remind you that spvp browser is your region so yup when you see only 200 people in the broswer thats it for all of north america which is pretty bad.  Sorry I am not seeing the numbers they are coming up with.

I think the game is in a lot of trouble.

 

Checked xfire's history and GW2's had an incredibly steep population decline:

On July 15th, 2012 SWTOR had 10015 hours played.

On January 17th, 2013 GW2 had 10987 hours played.

Here we've got a game with no sub fee losing players faster than a game with a sub fee.  The days of a quality developer slapping together a WoW clone and raking in the cash are long gone.  All GW2 has for revenue is box sales and a cash shop full of generic fantasy MMO gear.

Originally posted by Purutzil

As for me, I found it to be quite underwhelming, to the point its probably the worst AAA MMO title I've purchased (which btw does NOT mean its aweful or anything, just in the AAA market its on the negative end).

im not saying you are wrong - it is your opinion

but did you buy Anarchy Online, AOC, Warhammer when they released ?  worst is a stong word

Originally posted by Camaro68

Originally posted by xArsonistx

these are just copies sold which i can believe but i can tell you that there is no where near that about of people playing this game.  I played the game religeously since release I do believe at one point the game did have atleast 400k concurrent users thats about the only statement I heard to be true from them. At this point  I believe the game may only have at best 50k concurrent users. I actually believe it to be less 15-20k but im being nice.

 

All of the servers are more or less dead. Only 2 servers on NA an EU can barely fill WvW on a reset. all of the zones are empty with events that cant be completed when exploring you pretty much only see bots. Where are these people? they have a milllion people doing fractals? I don't think so. I would also point out that SPVP is a ghost town and might i remind you that spvp browser is your region so yup when you see only 200 people in the broswer thats it for all of north america which is pretty bad.  Sorry I am not seeing the numbers they are coming up with.

I think the game is in a lot of trouble.

 

 

Checked xfire's history and GW2's had an incredibly steep population decline:

On July 15th, 2012 SWTOR had 10015 hours played.

On January 17th, 2013 GW2 had 10987 hours played.

Here we've got a game with no sub fee losing players faster than a game with a sub fee.  The days of a quality developer slapping together a WoW clone and raking in the cash are long gone.  All GW2 has for revenue is box sales and a cash shop full of generic fantasy MMO gear.

Xfire huh? So do you have the stats that show what percentage of the entire GW2 playerbase actually uses that? Personally I don't use it and I don't know anyone who does. Yet forum goers seem to hold it up like it's the holy grail of seeing how much people play MMO's.

Originally posted by nerbon
bots in planetside 2 ? they farm what? but gw2 still has more bots then real players anyway gw1 combat was the best with all those skills and second proff gw 2 combat is just boring 3 skills spam

I have not seen any bots in GW2 in a long while - playing the game or still hoping it is true.

The second profession in GW1 is was made it hard to balance the game, hence they did away with the 2ndary profession (A.Net  developer admitted that in an interview and that is why they went this way). There were so many useless skills in GW!, ever find a use for Malaise or Wither? There were so many skills in GW1 that never got used because they made no sense and were sospecific to one situation to make them useless.