Originally posted by ezpz77

Originally posted by jimdandy26
LOL this community is so cute!

 

I'd say this community is sadly predictable.

I agree. Which is why I do not post much. Of all the forums I have been on, I have found my signature to hold truest here. :(

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Aeonblades
Good news for D3 players that managed to stick around, bad news for Titan if the second part is true.

Just officially renamed, "Titanic".

Lol

Originally posted by Aeonblades

Originally posted by Psychow

It will be a nice change for him working on a new and FRESH project since he won't have to deal with the entrenched D2 fans who demand that D3 be D2.

 

D3 is a great game.

No one was demanding it be exactly like D2, but if they had started by looking at what made D2 a good game for a decade, well, maybe D3 wouldn't be a pay 2 win ghost town.

Also, as another poster said, Titan shall now be known as Titanic till this tool is cut loose.

I wonder how maybe people actually played D2 for a decade. I'll bet at least 90% of the players beat the single player game and never touched it again.

I didn't play D2. That may be why I am capable of enjoying D3 for what it is instead of what it isn't.

Originally posted by Psychow

 

I wonder how maybe people actually played D2 for a decade. I'll bet at least 90% of the players beat the single player game and never touched it again.

 

I didn't play D2. That may be why I am capable of enjoying D3 for what it is instead of what it isn't.

Yeah, you don't know what you are missing :)

Another nice thing about Diablo 2 was even after you'd played it for years and years, there were fan mods that could change the game in significant ways, from new skills, more levels, new monsters, tons of new areas, hundreds of new items, tons more crafting, utility items for storage, the list goes on and on and that was just from one mod I played.

As much of a disappointment this game was in my eyes as well as many players... the sad truth was in the eyes of corporate it was a HUGE SUCCESS selling millions of copies... The game companies really don't care that you didn't like the gameplay or skill system or that they completely dodged PvP. The Diablo "brand" continues to be a success...

As far as Blizzard is concerned this guy is a friggin hero! They will give him a new project to "use his Midas touch" and probably give him a huge bucket of money.

Originally posted by Wighty

As much of a disappointment this game was in my eyes as well as many players... the sad truth was in the eyes of corporate it was a HUGE SUCCESS selling millions of copies... The game companies really don't care that you didn't like the gameplay or skill system or that they completely dodged PvP. The Diablo "brand" continues to be a success...

 

As far as Blizzard is concerned this guy is a friggin hero! They will give him a new project to "use his Midas touch" and probably give him a huge bucket of money.

If that were the case, they wouldn't have almost completely redisigned the game (for the better) since launch. 

When the CEO of the company writes a blog basically stating that "Ya, we f**ked up with endgame, but we have listened to the playerbase, and will be fixing it"...then they do just that, they know this dude did something wrong.

People that blame Jay Wilson completely for how d3 turned out, really don't know how actiblizz currently works.  You see you have execs that are only about the profit... and you have designers that are trying to make the games, but they have to follow certain protocols... Jay tried to do the best he could in a game that was understaffed and hyped beyond belief... He did not have 100% creative control over everything in the game, he had the ugly job of taking the flak for the game's downfalls, while having to cater to businessmen making games for money, as opposed to gamers making games while knowing what other gamers want. 

You know how you can tell the real Jay Wilson understands how to make a good game?  Because he loves permadeath pvp in hardcore... nuff said. 

Originally posted by doodphace

Originally posted by Wighty

As much of a disappointment this game was in my eyes as well as many players... the sad truth was in the eyes of corporate it was a HUGE SUCCESS selling millions of copies... The game companies really don't care that you didn't like the gameplay or skill system or that they completely dodged PvP. The Diablo "brand" continues to be a success...

 

As far as Blizzard is concerned this guy is a friggin hero! They will give him a new project to "use his Midas touch" and probably give him a huge bucket of money.

If that were the case, they wouldn't have almost completely redisigned the game (for the better) since launch. 

When the CEO of the company writes a blog basically stating that "Ya, we f**ked up with endgame, but we have listened to the playerbase, and will be fixing it"...then they do just that, they know this dude did something wrong.

 

Simple... it's called damage control...

Ok so they sell millons of copies of the game... the fanbase pays, then rages.

The figure head comes on to say "Sorry" meanwhile they are laughing all the way to the bank...

Blizzard is basically reduced to a fast food franchise in terms of game development... they will always sell millions of products even if they know what they are selling is poison. People will still buy it because it tastes good, even though it will eventually kill them.

Originally posted by caetftl

People that blame Jay Wilson completely for how d3 turned out, really don't know how actiblizz currently works.  You see you have execs that are only about the profit... and you have designers that are trying to make the games, but they have to follow certain protocols... Jay tried to do the best he could in a game that was understaffed and hyped beyond belief... He did not have 100% creative control over everything in the game, he had the ugly job of taking the flak for the game's downfalls, while having to cater to businessmen making games for money, as opposed to gamers making games while knowing what other gamers want. 

 

You know how you can tell the real Jay Wilson understands how to make a good game?  Because he loves permadeath pvp in hardcore... nuff said. 

And btw you can argue and disagree with me all you want, but unless you work at blizzard you don't know what I know. 

permadeath from pvp is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of.

Originally posted by Wighty

Originally posted by doodphace

Originally posted by Wighty

As much of a disappointment this game was in my eyes as well as many players... the sad truth was in the eyes of corporate it was a HUGE SUCCESS selling millions of copies... The game companies really don't care that you didn't like the gameplay or skill system or that they completely dodged PvP. The Diablo "brand" continues to be a success...

 

As far as Blizzard is concerned this guy is a friggin hero! They will give him a new project to "use his Midas touch" and probably give him a huge bucket of money.

If that were the case, they wouldn't have almost completely redisigned the game (for the better) since launch. 

When the CEO of the company writes a blog basically stating that "Ya, we f**ked up with endgame, but we have listened to the playerbase, and will be fixing it"...then they do just that, they know this dude did something wrong.

 

Simple... it's called damage control...

 

Ok so they sell millons of copies of the game... the fanbase pays, then rages.

The figure head comes on to say "Sorry" meanwhile they are laughing all the way to the bank...

 

Blizzard is basically reduced to a fast food franchise in terms of game development... they will always sell millions of products even if they know what they are selling is poison. People will still buy it because it tastes good, even though it will eventually kill them.

Damage control = CEO coming to say "Sorry".....

Pretty much redesigning/fixing the game in content patches after said "sorry = Actually knowing Wilson f'd up.

My point is even though the game sold millions, I am faily sure they know Wilson did not deliver properly.

Context/actually understanding the point..does a body good.

personally, I'm glad to see him off D3

i have no idea how influential he was for D3 design decisions - i only remember his arrogance

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Diablo-3-Jay-Wilson-Tells-Diablo-2-Designer-Fans-F-ck-Off-45895.html

Hopefully Jay can take some of the things he first learned on Diablo 3 to his next project, namely -

- Don't release a game that is not ready

- Do design a game with features people want

- Don't design a game with features people hate

Best of luck, Jay!

This actually makes a lot of sense. An informer has stated that titan will be a spin-off of diablo. It will be set in a similar universe with something different so they can claim the new IP thing. So it only makes sense that they pick up the guy that has been working on diablo and putting him on the team for titan.

If anyone doesn't think diablo 3 is a train wreck, please refer to the current state of PvP then read the following line, "Nuff said." That is all.

Originally posted by Foncl
I hope this marks a change in the direction Blizzard wants to take D3 from now on, there is still hope if they put in alot of effort to change the game. Any change for D3 is a good one since it doesn't interest me at all in it's current state.

If it doesn't interest you now, it never will.

Originally posted by kadepsyson

Originally posted by Psychow

 

I wonder how maybe people actually played D2 for a decade. I'll bet at least 90% of the players beat the single player game and never touched it again.

 

I didn't play D2. That may be why I am capable of enjoying D3 for what it is instead of what it isn't.

Yeah, you don't know what you are missing :)

Another nice thing about Diablo 2 was even after you'd played it for years and years, there were fan mods that could change the game in significant ways, from new skills, more levels, new monsters, tons of new areas, hundreds of new items, tons more crafting, utility items for storage, the list goes on and on and that was just from one mod I played.

whatever that new project is i plan on not supporting it 

>:D to the burning depths with you jay wilson bawhahahahahah ok now that i got that out my system.  I hope they dident let him go because of his failure with diablo3, because they should have done that a long time ago.  To anyone thinking that i really hate him i dont, the truth is diablo 3 was a mess when it was released and despite selling well it torched blizzard rep. One thing that did piss me off is when they tried to take credit for the huge sales numbers. the game sold so well because of the diablo franchise and blizzards reputation neither which had to do with what they made. Had the sales sky rocketed after reviews for the game came out then yes that would have been because of the game they made, but that was not the case.