You're not an artist. You're not a programmer. You only outsource but the one instance of outsourcing you mention took your money and didn't get you anything.

Okay.

do you know what even sadder?  the fact none of you bothered to read my indiegogo campaign proposal and have jumped to all sorts of conclusions.

i'am outsourcing my work. i have a fair knowledge of game development but nothing too serious just enough to get started. 

i told you the game is using c# and the game engine is on unity. what do you want from me? 

i shouldnt even be here since most if not all think this is a scam, i'amclueless on how you got to that conclusion. my pitch should have answered all your questions. but i guess "reading" is so old school..

well thanks for looking at the pitch. making updates now

Originally posted by mcool

do you know what even sadder?  the fact none of you bothered to read my indiegogo campaign proposal and have jumped to all sorts of conclusions.

i'am outsourcing my work. i have a fair knowledge of game development but nothing too serious just enough to get started. 

i told you the game is using c# and the game engine is on unity. what do you want from me? 

i shouldnt even be here since most if not all think this is a scam, i'amclueless on how you got to that conclusion. my pitch should have answered all your questions. but i guess "reading" is so old school..

 

well thanks for looking at the pitch. making updates now

You assume we didn't read it.  I actually read it, and it all sounds like a scam.  I could make the same claims as another game and ask for money without any work shown?

That is not how crowdfunding works.

I've given up on call of duty actually.  They're going to use the same graphics for the next 20 releases, at least Battlefield updates thier graphics :)

The problem with Call of Duty is much like WoW.  It's THE game of the genre.  "Everyone else plays that game, so why shouldn't I?"  When there are much better games out there.  Battlefield 3 is still better than any CoD, yet in almost every gaming site they give CoD higher scores than Battlefield 3 got. 

Originally posted by Grunty
I'm starting to think this thread was outsourced.

LOL- You are the winner of the thread. That was seriiosly funny and clever.

Maybe you could outsource your work and write up a clever pitch . =D

Now this is how you outsource.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/story-man-outsourced-china-could-135701981.html

i have an idea which i would like to get funded, simple. if i was a conman, i wouldn;t respond to any of your replies. i already know your not going to donate or share. i aree the campaign isnt as strong as i would hope but i'am constantly making changes

the fact is, getting a demo up and ready is too expensive, it cost  the same amount as the game. to get a programmer ,artist, animator etc all ready to make demo on a shoestring budget isnt feasible. 

i spoke with the game dev team about my idea for months,and they agreed to work onit for a low price. there is so much more on this topic but i doubt you would care. 

Personally, I want to see a semi-functional demo or at least a dev walkthrough showcasing whatever tools they are using to see what they have built so far... something like the Repopulation did in their Kickstarter with their HeroEngine demos.

I also have no problem with "paid beta" like what GGG did with Path of Exile, which I've been playing off and on for many months and will certainly pay for more at launch.

People will pay money for indie and will certainly put up money for crowdsource that is showing progress, you just have to be a good way into the project first. Ideas are good, implementation is better.

to be perfectly blunt your not going to see it  '' implementation is better'' .. i agree but you have to realise this all cost money, nothing is free. i could build my demo i would but i cant,,

there seems to be little hope for people with ideas. i can describe every aspect of my game to you if you like, but i cant build the game or demo without money .i havent reached that level in unity. thats why i'am outsourcing my work

Originally posted by mcool

to be perfectly blunt your not going to see it  '' implementation is better'' .. i agree but you have to realise this all cost money, nothing is free. i could build my demo i would but i cant,,

there seems to be little hope for people with ideas. i can describe every aspect of my game to you if you like, but i cant build the game or demo without money .i havent reached that level in unity. thats why i'am outsourcing my work

You have just ideas, anyone can have ideas. I can put an idea up for the most amazing game ever and ask for money but nobody is going to back me, you know why? Because you have to have a solid foundation before you ask for something. What about people who invent things, and need money to further move their ideas? They cannot just say hey I have an idea for a car battery that runs on childrens tears and doesn't ever run out fund me! Without solid proof they have a way to make that work, nobody will throw money towards it. What you have are other peoples drawings, and nothing more. That's great you found some pictures that look like your idea, that's really cool, now how will you get that into a game? Outsourcing is a way, but you haven't said who you were outsourcing to, or even started to pour any of your own money into this. You are hoping other people will throw money it at you so you can attempt to make it work. What if it doesn't work? Then you took peoples money and basically created a scam without trying to do that.  

" You have just ideas, anyone can have ideas. " your right but i have created a GDD for my game. detialing everything about it

architects builds draw up house plans , the same goes for a lot of designers, the whole point is that people look at your idea ,then decide if its worth investing

''Outsourcing is a way, but you haven't said who you were outsourcing to, or even started to pour any of your own money into this.'' the company name is vetrod technologies.. 

i have poured hundreds in making my game. just reading that line make me laugh. the fact is i need thousands, the reason i came to indiegogo is because i cant fund my idea by myself.  

$5,500 is so small but it would make a huge difference.so many people bashing the game without reading. i guess its because my name is activision or EA .. 

Originally posted by mcool

" You have just ideas, anyone can have ideas. " your right but i have created a GDD for my game. detialing everything about it

architects builds draw up house plans , the same goes for a lot of designers, the whole point is that people look at your idea ,then decide if its worth investing

 

''Outsourcing is a way, but you haven't said who you were outsourcing to, or even started to pour any of your own money into this.'' the company name is vetrod technologies.. 

i have poured hundreds in making my game. just reading that line make me laugh. the fact is i need thousands, the reason i came to indiegogo is because i cant fund my idea by myself.  

$5,500 is so small but it would make a huge difference.so many people bashing the game without reading. i guess its because my name is activision or EA .. 

Vetrod Technologies doesn't even exist on the internets...

That last line made me laugh my fucking ass off though.

Originally posted by mcool

to be perfectly blunt your not going to see it  '' implementation is better'' .. i agree but you have to realise this all cost money, nothing is free. i could build my demo i would but i cant,,

there seems to be little hope for people with ideas. i can describe every aspect of my game to you if you like, but i cant build the game or demo without money .i havent reached that level in unity. thats why i'am outsourcing my work

Everyone and his neighbor's dog has game ideas.  A lot of people even have good ideas.  What is scarce is people who can actually implement those ideas and make them work with an actual program that actually runs in the intended manner on real hardware in the real world.

it depends. all ideas need money, you make it sound like we can all just go on the computer and make a demo

people fund ideas. before the next call of duty is released ,people write down their ideasd and more importantly  A GDD .  then its up to the project manager to decide if the game goes green. you can't say because there is no demo thererfore my  campaign makes no sense

there should be a clear difference from someone who has an idea for a game and someone who has the GDD for his game idea.

check out the campaign http://www.indiegogo.com/CODE-Z/x/1825980

Originally posted by mcool
this is their site http://www.veltrod.com/

There is no proof on that website that they will code a game for you. There is software design, but in no way is that a game.