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  Rthuth434

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1/13/13 1:34:08 PM#21
Originally posted by strangiato2112

Rift and Raptr recently did a promotion which is distorting Rift's numbers.  It looks like same ting as happening with DCUO and STO as well.

ditto for Xfire and TSW.

  MMOGamer71

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1/13/13 1:35:15 PM#22
Originally posted by zethcarn

And now if you're interested, the Retention Rate of each MMO.  As much hate as it gets WoW is still the leader.

 

1. World of Warcraft: 37.3 hours per member 

2. Guild Wars 2: 36.5 
3. Rift: 31.8 
4. Star Wars The Old Republic: 27.0 
5. TERA: 25.0 
6. EVE: 20.3 
7. Star Trek Online: 19.3 
8. Everquest: 14.5 
9. The Secret World: 12.0 
10. Lord of the Rings Online: 11.4 
11. Everquest 2: 8.6 
12. Planetside 2: 5.0 
13. DC Universe Online: 4.5

Surprised at some of these numbers, especially Rift.

  ZombieKen

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1/13/13 1:40:32 PM#23
Originally posted by zethcarn

13. DC Universe Online: 4.5

Could that be seen implying great marketing with a poor player hook rate?

Like "installed, played, uninstalled"?

 

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  GrayGhost79

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1/13/13 1:42:53 PM#24
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by zethcarn

And now if you're interested, the Retention Rate of each MMO.  As much hate as it gets WoW is still the leader.

 

1. World of Warcraft: 37.3 hours per member 

2. Guild Wars 2: 36.5 
3. Rift: 31.8 
4. Star Wars The Old Republic: 27.0 
5. TERA: 25.0 
6. EVE: 20.3 
7. Star Trek Online: 19.3 
8. Everquest: 14.5 
9. The Secret World: 12.0 
10. Lord of the Rings Online: 11.4 
11. Everquest 2: 8.6 
12. Planetside 2: 5.0 
13. DC Universe Online: 4.5

Surprised at some of these numbers, especially Rift.

Nah its about on par with where it should be. 

Right now MMO's are 

1) WoW

2) GW2

3) Rift

4) EvE

5) PS2

6) TSW

 

TERA is seeing a spike do to everyones accounts being reactivated for free in anticipation for the f2p conversion

SWTOR's ranking is lower 

Others are running promotions to try and increase their representations in these metrics (One of many reasons these aren't really valid for any kind of argument for or against a game). 

 

All in all I'm fairly impressed with the results, its almost on par with the reality this time around. Still no where close to being an accurate tool though. 

  User Deleted
1/13/13 1:47:04 PM#25
Pretty cool to see SWTOR so high on that list.
  AIMonster

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1/13/13 2:21:09 PM#26

Sub based games and buy to play are almost gaurenteed a higher retention rate than F2P.  It's pretty much the nature of things.  I'm more inclined to download a MMO that is F2P and play it for a couple hours than pay for a game and become bored with it after a few hours.

A game like Planetside 2 is designed for quick play too so the retention rate being so low doesn't suprise me at all.

Raptr link because it's the cool new trend:

  Sukiyaki

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1/13/13 4:52:59 PM#27
Originally posted by zethcarn

And now if you're interested, the Retention Rate of each MMO.  As much hate as it gets WoW is still the leader.

 

1. World of Warcraft: 37.3 hours per member 

2. Guild Wars 2: 36.5 
3. Rift: 31.8 
4. Star Wars The Old Republic: 27.0 
5. TERA: 25.0 
6. EVE: 20.3 
7. Star Trek Online: 19.3 
8. Everquest: 14.5 
9. The Secret World: 12.0 
10. Lord of the Rings Online: 11.4 
11. Everquest 2: 8.6 
12. Planetside 2: 5.0 
13. DC Universe Online: 4.5

I excluded Diablo 3 but it's 17.3

Thats not a retention rate.  Its not even describing a rate. But just the average of time a member spent on a specific game since ever the game was released and up till launch of raptr it self in total. A single shot doesnt even give a good hint at a retention rate with factors like gamedesign propagating afk idling, longer, shorter gemeplay sessions or appealing to a different demographics etc etc. You can try to pull something out of it, say high playtime indicates member must've stayed longer in one game than another, but it the end its just more assumptions, already under the assumption they are accurate in first place.

Thats thats apples and pinetreestumps.

  Cod_Eye

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1/13/13 6:03:10 PM#28
All that data doesnt really mean much, figures are highly inacurate.  A lot of gamers who use Raptr  and xfire jump games a lot and a lot of the data is distorted as many are playing trials aswel.  As games like GW2 being a B2P model, players will always jump in and out, where players who pay a sub to the subscription model are more likely to play them games at longer intervals.
  kevjards

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1/13/13 6:12:23 PM#29
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by zethcarn

And now if you're interested, the Retention Rate of each MMO.  As much hate as it gets WoW is still the leader.

 

1. World of Warcraft: 37.3 hours per member 

2. Guild Wars 2: 36.5 
3. Rift: 31.8 
4. Star Wars The Old Republic: 27.0 
5. TERA: 25.0 
6. EVE: 20.3 
7. Star Trek Online: 19.3 
8. Everquest: 14.5 
9. The Secret World: 12.0 
10. Lord of the Rings Online: 11.4 
11. Everquest 2: 8.6 
12. Planetside 2: 5.0 
13. DC Universe Online: 4.5

Surprised at some of these numbers, especially Rift.

you maybe suprised at rift..i,m suprised at STO.

  AceMaster

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1/13/13 6:33:48 PM#30

most peple i know don't use programs as these, so i kinda doubt they are accurate

but i'm actualy interested on how aion, c9 are doing on those list

 

 

Btw riot relesed some statistics which show League of Legends is the most played game in the world (more than WoW, diablo, or starcraft 2) just search on google and you will find multiple articles like these. It's possible it's the truth, even I played that game for a while lol

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/07/11/riot-games-league-of-legends-officially-becomes-most-played-pc-game-in-the-world/

 

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/10/12/lol_infographic.png

  phantomghost

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1/13/13 6:39:33 PM#31

Only good game up there was Everquest.

 

If those stats were durings its prime the hours played would be a much larger scale than ~20x the number of players.

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  Ginaz

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1/13/13 6:51:57 PM#32
Originally posted by phantomghost

Only good game up there was Everquest.

 

If those stats were durings its prime the hours played would be a much larger scale than ~20x the number of players.

When it had almost no competition?  Then, yeah, probably it would.

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  Yamota

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1/13/13 7:00:06 PM#33

Would be interesting to cross-reference these stats with X-Fire. At first glance, DCU is nowhere near as popular on XFire as on this tool. That game is pretty sub-par and doubt doing very well.

And what about Aion? It is one of the big one's.

  Raithe-Nor

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1/13/13 8:11:10 PM#34
Originally posted by AceMaster

most peple i know don't use programs as these, so i kinda doubt they are accurate

Preliminary statistics course... you don't need "most" of the data to obtain fairly accurate statistics.

The meaninglessness of these statistics is not found in its accuracy.  It resides in the fact that statistics of other pasttimes would show it all to be hopelessly unpopular.  As in:

Sleeping:  6 billion members, 200 hours played.

Movies:  2 billion members, 20 hours played.

Facebook:   500 million members, 100 hours played.

Etc. and so forth.  So, because so many people spend so much time sleeping, should every company design a comforter set and bedframe to go along with their core product?

The only real metric for the success of a game (and even entire genres of games) is found in two statistics:

1) Can the developer make a living?

2) Does he like to play his own game with his current playerbase?

The only metrics that matter.

  nariusseldon

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1/13/13 9:18:41 PM#35
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Can I please please please be the first to point out that D3 is not an MMO?

The play style is close enough. Many MMO players play D3.

  MMOExposed

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1/13/13 10:20:24 PM#36
how is Warhammer looking?

  moosecatlol

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1/13/13 10:26:44 PM#37
Question, why would I want to use raptr? It just seems like a newer Xfire, a program I never appreciated in the first place.
  Azrile

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1/13/13 10:26:58 PM#38
Originally posted by Rthuth434
Originally posted by strangiato2112

Rift and Raptr recently did a promotion which is distorting Rift's numbers.  It looks like same ting as happening with DCUO and STO as well.

ditto for Xfire and TSW.

This is a little tin-foil hattish.. but  AOC used to do a lot of promotions with xfire, and shortly afterwards there would be someone posting links and stats to xfire showing how the game had ´recovered´ and players were coming back in droves.

  Quirhid

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1/13/13 10:27:24 PM#39
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
Originally posted by zethcarn
 

Thats not a retention rate.  Its not even describing a rate. But just the average of time a member spent on a specific game since ever the game was released and up till launch of raptr it self in total. A single shot doesnt even give a good hint at a retention rate with factors like gamedesign propagating afk idling, longer, shorter gemeplay sessions or appealing to a different demographics etc etc. You can try to pull something out of it, say high playtime indicates member must've stayed longer in one game than another, but it the end its just more assumptions, already under the assumption they are accurate in first place.

Thats thats apples and pinetreestumps.

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