Originally posted by Caaahl

Originally posted by joshbaby03

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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

What did you expect?

I'd ban your sorry ass, too, if i were them.

And for trying to give them bad publicity i'd ban any future account related to your personal data, too.

They deserve all bad publicity when they try to avoid following the EU lawsettings.

They proved being corrupted developers during Darkfall 1 by adjusting their own set of written gamerules when Zergs threaten to ragequit on forums. Nothing new here. 

Originally posted by MrDDT
Sounds like AV did a pretty smart thing. You are disupting the charges, so clearly you don't want access to the game. You now have to wait til your dispute is over.

Where did he say he wont want to try the game later on?

Originally posted by Aragon100

 

They deserve all bad publicity when they try to avoid following the EU lawsettings.

 

This.. is... DARKFALL

Originally posted by mindw0rk
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One of the better topics id say. It's good to get some information on what to expect from a gamedeveloper.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by MrDDT
Sounds like AV did a pretty smart thing. You are disupting the charges, so clearly you don't want access to the game. You now have to wait til your dispute is over.

Where did he say he wont want to try the game later on?

He always can, just needs to create a new account. It's standard practice for any game company. You ask for a refund after using the code that came with the purchase then the whole account gets banned. 

Its something every single gaming company does. 

Originally posted by mindw0rk
You might be banned on mmorpg.com too. For trolling or spreading false info. /shrug

He is describing his business connections with Aventurine.

Is that bannable?

Really?

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by MrDDT
Sounds like AV did a pretty smart thing. You are disupting the charges, so clearly you don't want access to the game. You now have to wait til your dispute is over.

Where did he say he wont want to try the game later on?

He always can, just needs to create a new account. It's standard practice for any game company. You ask for a refund after using the code that came with the purchase then the whole account gets banned. 

Its somethine every single gaming company does. 

The account shouldnt be banned before he get his refund, period.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by MrDDT
Sounds like AV did a pretty smart thing. You are disupting the charges, so clearly you don't want access to the game. You now have to wait til your dispute is over.

Where did he say he wont want to try the game later on?

He always can, just needs to create a new account. It's standard practice for any game company. You ask for a refund after using the code that came with the purchase then the whole account gets banned. 

Its somethine every single gaming company does. 

The account shouldnt be banned before he get his refund, period.

As soon as the refund process begins it is, thats the reality. Its with every single gaming company out there. Sorry, thats just the way it is lol. 

Good on them i dislike people that want their money back after trying it.

You buy it  you dont like it well its your fault.

Todays players are spoiled when it comes to this dont buy every game out there and you wont get burnt.

Originally posted by Yanik

Originally posted by joshbaby03

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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

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LOL.

So he is an arse for ventilating his frustration? His account was banned before he got a refund. He still havent gotten his money so he should be able to log into the game.

Originally posted by Baleout

Good on them i dislike people that want their money back after trying it.

You buy it  you dont like it well its your fault.

Todays players are spoiled when it comes to this dont buy every game out there and you wont get burnt.

Plus he paid for the pre-order and the game isnt even released yet.

So to claim it is a fraud because of missing features is not reasonable at the moment.

Beta access was a bonus given to him; not what he paid for.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Yanik

Originally posted by joshbaby03

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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

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LOL.

So he is an arse for ventilating his frustration? His account was banned before he got a refund, that is fraud in my eyes. He still havent gotten his money so he should be able to log into the game.

Why would he want to? He doesn't like the game. It was bad enough that he wanted a refund. So... 

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Yanik

Originally posted by joshbaby03

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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

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LOL.

So he is an arse for ventilating his frustration? His account was banned before he got a refund, that is fraud in my eyes. He still havent gotten his money so he should be able to log into the game.

Why would he want to? He doesn't like the game. It was bad enough that he wanted a refund. So... 

It's not about he wanting or not. He havent gotten any refund so his account should be open.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by MrDDT
 

 

The account shouldnt be banned before he get his refund, period.

As soon as the refund process begins it is, thats the reality. Its with every single gaming company out there. Sorry, thats just the way it is lol. 

Pretty much.

I'd say it makes perfect sense to ban the account immediately. At the end of the day he is going to be getting his money back and as such he has had FREE game time. Yet people seem to think he should be allowed additional FREE time? I don't think so Tim.

If he doesn't get his money back at some point, well that might be more of an issue.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by MrDDT
Sounds like AV did a pretty smart thing. You are disupting the charges, so clearly you don't want access to the game. You now have to wait til your dispute is over.

Where did he say he wont want to try the game later on?

There is nothing preventing him doing that is it?

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Yanik

Originally posted by joshbaby03

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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

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LOL.

So he is an arse for ventilating his frustration? His account was banned before he got a refund, that is fraud in my eyes. He still havent gotten his money so he should be able to log into the game.

Why would he want to? He doesn't like the game. It was bad enough that he wanted a refund. So... 

It's not about he wanting or not. He havent gotten any refund so his account should be open.

Explain why lol. 

1) He didn't like the game, to him it was bad enough to ask for a refund. 

2) He went through paypal to get said refund. 

3) Obviously the refund process started because Aventurine was notified and the account was banned as is standard practice in the gaming industry. 

4) You and he are PO'd because he can't play a game for free that he has no intent on paying for while he awaits his refund? 

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Yanik

Originally posted by joshbaby03
 

 

 

It's not about he wanting or not. He havent gotten any refund so his account should be open.

No, it quite clearly really shouldn't be open.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Yanik

Originally posted by joshbaby03

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zdykab.jpg

 

Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

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LOL.

So he is an arse for ventilating his frustration? His account was banned before he got a refund, that is fraud in my eyes. He still havent gotten his money so he should be able to log into the game.

Why would he want to? He doesn't like the game. It was bad enough that he wanted a refund. So... 

It's not about he wanting or not. He havent gotten any refund so his account should be open.

Explain why lol. 

1) He didn't like the game, to him it was bad enough to ask for a refund. 

2) He went through paypal to get said refund. 

3) Obviously the refund process started because Aventurine was notified and the account was banned as is standard practice in the gaming industry. 

4) You and he are PO'd because he can't play a game for free that he has no intent on paying for while he awaits his refund? 

 

Show me some proof that this is standard practice?

And why dont you same time give us some information they are following the EU business laws?

Pay the refund first and then close the account is the right way to do business. It is also a good way to avoid these kind of bad publicity.

Originally posted by joshbaby03

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Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

 

Jed

You ask for a chargeback and complain that the account got banned? What were you expecting, free beta till release?